Re: XML to array - what are the options?

2011-05-09 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Keith Clarke 
keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote:

 Thanks Stephen,
 A mutli-dimensional array primer and worked-example stack working on XML
 file data - just what I needed!


Keith,

The latest version of the routines can be found on revOnline:

http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/571/XMLAndArrays

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Re: XML to array - what are the options?

2011-05-09 Thread Keith Clarke
Hi Trevor,
Thanks for the steer, the stack update - and for creating and sharing this 
great resource!
Best,
Keith..

On 9 May 2011, at 13:21, Trevor DeVore wrote:
 
 Keith,
 
 The latest version of the routines can be found on revOnline:
 
 http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/571/XMLAndArrays
 
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XML to array - what are the options?

2011-05-08 Thread Keith Clarke
Hi folks,
I need to start learning about how best to convert XML files to arrays.
There seems to be quite a lot of content around on this subject, so I'd really 
appreciate any pointers for where best to start my research.
What is the state of the art regarding tools and techniques - and are there any 
stacks or tutorials that have helped others with this?
Best,
Keith..
  
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Re: XML to array - what are the options?

2011-05-08 Thread Jim Ault

On May 8, 2011, at 3:03 AM, Keith Clarke wrote:


Hi folks,
I need to start learning about how best to convert XML files to  
arrays.
There seems to be quite a lot of content around on this subject, so  
I'd really appreciate any pointers for where best to start my  
research.
What is the state of the art regarding tools and techniques - and  
are there any stacks or tutorials that have helped others with this?


A good start...
http://www.sonsothunder.com/home/home.htm#xmllib211

by Ken Ray
has an XML library that is state of the art.
I spoke with Ken last week at the conference and he said that his lib  
was not faster than the Rev XML, but had some better features.


The few times I did any work with parsing XML boiled down to text  
chunking rather than using an XML lib.



Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: XML to array - what are the options?

2011-05-08 Thread Keith Clarke
Jim. 
Thanks for the response. 

Apologies - my question should have been more specific - about concepts, 
techniques and examples of applying arrays to manipulating XML data, rather 
than tools.   

Notwithstanding that, it's good to know that Ken's library is the state of the 
art, as I been using the paid-for v2.1, with its excellent workshop tool 
(alongside Mark Wider's libSOAP library) to interrogate various web services 
and gain a basic understanding of XML data files I want to target. 

With these, I now have found some potentially interesting XML data that I want 
to process. So, I'm trying to learn how I might apply arrays to this data, in 
the following specific scenarios:

1. Display data, from a specific node in a single XML file, a set number of 
node layers, in rTree as a 'node outline' or 'flattened' into a data grid.

2. Create a new 'related' data set from two XML files with common nodes. If the 
source data was in database tables, CSV files or spreadsheets, I'd be in my 
comfort zone and know what to do. I understand outlines and can see how I could 
combine XML files manually - and so could probably build-up some 
text-manipulation scripts from scratch. But there must be a simpler, 
higher-level, repeatable and more efficient way of doing this.

Any ideas gratefully received.
Best,
Keith.. 
 
On 8 May 2011, at 14:58, Jim Ault wrote:

 On May 8, 2011, at 3:03 AM, Keith Clarke wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 I need to start learning about how best to convert XML files to arrays.
 There seems to be quite a lot of content around on this subject, so I'd 
 really appreciate any pointers for where best to start my research.
 What is the state of the art regarding tools and techniques - and are there 
 any stacks or tutorials that have helped others with this?
 
 A good start...
 http://www.sonsothunder.com/home/home.htm#xmllib211
 
 by Ken Ray
 has an XML library that is state of the art.
 I spoke with Ken last week at the conference and he said that his lib was not 
 faster than the Rev XML, but had some better features.
 
 The few times I did any work with parsing XML boiled down to text chunking 
 rather than using an XML lib.
 
 
 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas


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Re: XML to array - what are the options?

2011-05-08 Thread stephen barncard
Search the archives - Trevor has released his xml-to-array and array-to-xml
routines to this list. They were short enough to paste into an email.

On 8 May 2011 09:00, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.ukwrote:

 Jim.
 Thanks for the response.

 Apologies - my question should have been more specific - about concepts,
 techniques and examples of applying arrays to manipulating XML data, rather
 than tools.

 Notwithstanding that, it's good to know that Ken's library is the state of
 the art, as I been using the paid-for v2.1, with its excellent workshop tool
 (alongside Mark Wider's libSOAP library) to interrogate various web services
 and gain a basic understanding of XML data files I want to target.

 With these, I now have found some potentially interesting XML data that I
 want to process. So, I'm trying to learn how I might apply arrays to this
 data, in the following specific scenarios:

 1. Display data, from a specific node in a single XML file, a set number of
 node layers, in rTree as a 'node outline' or 'flattened' into a data grid.

 2. Create a new 'related' data set from two XML files with common nodes. If
 the source data was in database tables, CSV files or spreadsheets, I'd be in
 my comfort zone and know what to do. I understand outlines and can see how I
 could combine XML files manually - and so could probably build-up some
 text-manipulation scripts from scratch. But there must be a simpler,
 higher-level, repeatable and more efficient way of doing this.

 Any ideas gratefully received.
 Best,
 Keith..

 On 8 May 2011, at 14:58, Jim Ault wrote:

  On May 8, 2011, at 3:03 AM, Keith Clarke wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
  I need to start learning about how best to convert XML files to arrays.
  There seems to be quite a lot of content around on this subject, so I'd
 really appreciate any pointers for where best to start my research.
  What is the state of the art regarding tools and techniques - and are
 there any stacks or tutorials that have helped others with this?
 
  A good start...
  http://www.sonsothunder.com/home/home.htm#xmllib211
 
  by Ken Ray
  has an XML library that is state of the art.
  I spoke with Ken last week at the conference and he said that his lib was
 not faster than the Rev XML, but had some better features.
 
  The few times I did any work with parsing XML boiled down to text
 chunking rather than using an XML lib.
 
 
  Jim Ault
  Las Vegas


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Re: XML to array - what are the options?

2011-05-08 Thread Keith Clarke
Thanks Stephen, 
A mutli-dimensional array primer and worked-example stack working on XML file 
data - just what I needed! 

It turned out to be a newsletter item from 2008 - only linked from the old 
revolution use list. 
Unfortunately, those links are broken and/or there is a problem with the 
newsletter archive page - which is currently rendering in a strange way 
http://www.runrev.com/developers/resources/newsletters/ ?!?

So, here's a direct link for the next seeker of array/XML enlightenment who 
passes this way... http://runrev.com/newsletter/july/issue53/newsletter1.php 
Best,
Keith..

On 8 May 2011, at 17:41, stephen barncard wrote:

 Search the archives - Trevor has released his xml-to-array and array-to-xml
 routines to this list. They were short enough to paste into an email.
 
 On 8 May 2011 09:00, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.ukwrote:
 
 Jim.
 Thanks for the response.
 
 Apologies - my question should have been more specific - about concepts,
 techniques and examples of applying arrays to manipulating XML data, rather
 than tools.
 
 Notwithstanding that, it's good to know that Ken's library is the state of
 the art, as I been using the paid-for v2.1, with its excellent workshop tool
 (alongside Mark Wider's libSOAP library) to interrogate various web services
 and gain a basic understanding of XML data files I want to target.
 
 With these, I now have found some potentially interesting XML data that I
 want to process. So, I'm trying to learn how I might apply arrays to this
 data, in the following specific scenarios:
 
 1. Display data, from a specific node in a single XML file, a set number of
 node layers, in rTree as a 'node outline' or 'flattened' into a data grid.
 
 2. Create a new 'related' data set from two XML files with common nodes. If
 the source data was in database tables, CSV files or spreadsheets, I'd be in
 my comfort zone and know what to do. I understand outlines and can see how I
 could combine XML files manually - and so could probably build-up some
 text-manipulation scripts from scratch. But there must be a simpler,
 higher-level, repeatable and more efficient way of doing this.
 
 Any ideas gratefully received.
 Best,
 Keith..
 
 On 8 May 2011, at 14:58, Jim Ault wrote:
 
 On May 8, 2011, at 3:03 AM, Keith Clarke wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 I need to start learning about how best to convert XML files to arrays.
 There seems to be quite a lot of content around on this subject, so I'd
 really appreciate any pointers for where best to start my research.
 What is the state of the art regarding tools and techniques - and are
 there any stacks or tutorials that have helped others with this?
 
 A good start...
 http://www.sonsothunder.com/home/home.htm#xmllib211
 
 by Ken Ray
 has an XML library that is state of the art.
 I spoke with Ken last week at the conference and he said that his lib was
 not faster than the Rev XML, but had some better features.
 
 The few times I did any work with parsing XML boiled down to text
 chunking rather than using an XML lib.
 
 
 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas
 
 
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