Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Its unclear because it is most likely that an EU court, if it ever came to that, would decide that it was a purchase and not a license. Because if it walks and quacks like a duck Or as Lincoln said, if a tail is a leg how many legs does a dog have? Four, because a tail is not a leg. Peter

storing data on iOS devices

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Sheffield
This has come up before on the list, but I haven't been able to find a reliable location where I can store persistent data without it being backed up to iTunes. We've got an app that downloads and stores quite a bit of media (audio, pictures, etc.) that needs to persist on the device but

RE: storing data on iOS devices

2012-09-10 Thread John Dixon
Chris... Have a read of 'file Attributes' on page 23 of the iOS release notes... If I understand this correctly, you can happily save your 'stuff' in the 'documents' folder and using the 'iphoneDoNotBackUpFile' function set a flag as to whether things should be backed up to icloud/itunes or

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread dunbarx
So is it really true that I cannot send a message to another machine running liveCode: I cannot: send beep 3 to program myRemotemachine Say it ain't so. I want my Jacque. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/10/12 10:54 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: So is it really true that I cannot send a message to another machine running liveCode: I cannot: send beep 3 to program myRemotemachine Say it ain't so. I want my Jacque. LOL. I'm flattered, but I had to look it up. I hate to be the bearer of

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread dunbarx
OK. Fine. Am I to understand that LiveCode, the great and powerful, cannot do this at all? Am I the first one that ever wanted to send a message to another machine? A new project I am working on therefore must be authored in Hypercard. I am fine with that. I will just buy a few G4 blue and

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
It's unclear to me why the fact that I buy a license to use software versus owning the actual software itself has any effect on what I choose to do with it. Either way, I pay money to Apple to be able to use it. That's a different issue than what the EULA says regarding not using it on

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread Colin Holgate
Why have a few more replies to this topic appeared? Wasn't the link I sent a good answer? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: lcStackBrowser 1.0.1

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Mark, that's a good idea. I do have my own pref setting for including/excluding Rev stacks so I think I would probably base it on that rather than the Rev property but the principle is the same. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Mark Wieder

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Let us be thankful that most of us live in a place unlike Africa, where the cats can skin us! On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: LiveCode - an ever-increasing number of ways to skin each cat. None of which, however, yield a happy cat . . .

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
I find it no end of a marvel that any of this works at all! Let's look at what our data really is: We coat some metal discs with some form if oxide (read that rust) and then spin it real fast while several magnets turn on and off at exactly the right instant, real fast. And how do we put this

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/10/12 11:31 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Am I to understand that LiveCode, the great and powerful, cannot do this at all? It sounds like the limitation is in OS X. But I just looked at the link Colin posted and it looks like you could make that work. Or there's Ken Ray to the rescue

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
While I am not a big fan of EULA's, there mere existence is a testament to how people will, if they are allowed, take something they never paid for, and use it, giving what they took to everyone they know, or don't know, often for their own gain, whether in currency or for accolade. EULA's

OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
I just now noticed this announcement from last month: http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2012/08/adobe-flash-on-android-rip.php -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
To be fair, I don't think anyone is saying that we can do whatever we want with what we buy, and still expect the manufacturer to honor it's warranty! No one here is suggesting that. What we are suggesting is that if I want to put my iPhone in a blender to see if it will blend, I damn well can,

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Haworth
Yes, I thought of that analogy. The problem is, as others have said on this thread, I don't believe Apple's EULA is legal whereas car lease conditions are. It's not a case of morality, piracy, honesty or any other human traits that have been mentioned during this thread. I simply do not believe

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Not so fast. There is a Remote Apple Events thingummy in the Sharing preferences of Snow Leopard, and I think also still in Lion. If an app is written to respond to Apple Events, then it *should* work. Not sure how you would do it though. Bob On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:10 AM, J. Landman Gay

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

2012-09-10 Thread Colin Holgate
You have to keep up: http://betanews.com/2012/08/31/adobe-flash-for-android-lives-again-in-united-kingdom/ On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: I just now noticed this announcement from last month:

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
Or rather parts of it may be unenforceable. I don't think the whole becomes void if some part is found to be non-binding. Bob On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: I like Apple hardware and software, use it as my main platform for programming and personal use. I just happen

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread dunbarx
Bob, I checked remote Apple events in the target machine early on. No dice. (error -1701) Craig -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 1:37 pm Subject: Re: Send to program Not so fast. There

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Timothy Miller
An analogous situation exists with medical records. The doctor owns the physical record. The patient, in theory, owns and controls the information contained therein. In theory, when signing a HIPAA release, or other release of information, the patient authorizes the doctor to release the

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Haworth
You're right, yes I'm referring to the parts about running only on Apple hardware. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Or rather parts of it may be unenforceable. I don't think the whole becomes void if some part is

Screen not updating with unlock screen

2012-09-10 Thread Gabriel Johnson
Hey All- Sorry if this is a duplicate, my first version of this email from a few days ago has not been approved yet (I'm assuming I can't attach videos). I am having an issue getting output to display during a loop. I've tried lock/unlock screen but unlock screen does not seem to cause the

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread dunbarx
Colin. I may be misreading the link, and possibly resisting having to deal with writing applescript scripts, but the article shows methods of doing such things as would be considered remote machine control: opening apps, going to sleep, changing system attributes like playback volume, etc. It

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread dunbarx
Jacque. Ken Ray's script almost looks intelligible to me; I wrote some AS scripts about 30 years ago. But I am too old and feeble to see where this ties in. Craig -Original Message- From: dunbarx dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Mon, Sep 10,

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Haworth
Off the original topic but taht's interesting. It seems common practice among dentists to charge for a patient to get their records if they move to another dentist, but sounds like I could tell them I want to copy them myself. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

2012-09-10 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi All, Mark Wieder wrote Colin Holgate wrote: You have to keep up: http://betanews.com/2012/08/31/adobe-flash-for-android-lives-again-in-united-kingdom/ lives again in the title is a stretching things a bit. The BBC whined, Adobe rolled over, but only temporarily and only in the UK.

Re: Send to program

2012-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
I got pretty good at it, way back when developers who really believed in it made their documentation fairly usable. The trouble with Applescript is that you are entirely dependent on the really sparse, often wholly inadequate or incomplete app dictionaries (if there even is one), and on public

misleading corrupted file warning

2012-09-10 Thread Haroldo Mauro
My Revolution Studio 3.5 will not open its own stacks except for the first one. If I want to open a second stack or, if I close the the one that's runing and try to open it again, I get this message: Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check up for~backup file. Aparently the stacks are

fontStyle function working?

2012-09-10 Thread Marty Knapp
Anybody used the fontStyle function with success? No matter what I throw at it I get the same result: plain, bold, italic, bold-italic even when I know the font does not contain those styles. Thanks, Marty Knapp --- www.KnappsterSolutions.com www.CheckBuilderPro.com

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
I have no problem with Apple behaving like a business, they have a responsibility to their shreholders to do so, nor would I expect them to provide any support if I broke their EULA terms, nor do I blame them for trying to create a closed, sanitized environment for their software to make

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Or rather parts of it may be unenforceable. I don't think the whole becomes void if some part is found to be non-binding. Usually agreements have some statement that says If any part of this agreement is found to be unenforceable, it shall not void the entire agreement unless X occurs;

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

2012-09-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/10/12 6:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: My Revolution Studio 3.5 will not open its own stacks except for the first one. If I want to open a second stack or, if I close the the one that's runing and try to open it again, I get this message: Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check up

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

2012-09-10 Thread Haroldo Mauro
On 10/09/2012, at 20:51, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 9/10/12 6:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: My Revolution Studio 3.5 will not open its own stacks except for the first one. If I want to open a second stack or, if I close the the one that's runing and try to open it again, I get this message:

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

2012-09-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alejandro Tejada wrote: If they keep acting in that way, I foresee a future without Adobe software in ANY platform. That future has been my present for the last several years. I had enjoyed GoLive and LiveMotion, and they way they OEL'd those has prompted me to spend my money elsewhere.

Re: fontStyle function working?

2012-09-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Do you mean textStyle? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Marty Knapp wrote: Anybody used the fontStyle function with success? No matter what I throw at it I get the same result: plain, bold, italic, bold-italic even when I know the font does not

Re: fontStyle function working?

2012-09-10 Thread dunbarx
Scott. The fontStyles returns all the styles of a particular font. Sort of like the properties. I think Marty is seeing styles listed that he believes do not comprise the style set of whatever fonts he is investigating. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Scott Rossi

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

2012-09-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/10/12 7:15 PM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: On 10/09/2012, at 20:51, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 9/10/12 6:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: My Revolution Studio 3.5 will not open its own stacks except for the first one. If I want to open a second stack or, if I close the the one that's runing and try

Re: 1024 x 1024 Icons- Got Them

2012-09-10 Thread Colin Holgate
iOS app store also needs a 1024x1024 version of the icon, though not transparent. On Sep 10, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: The Aspen Icon Set now includes 1024 x 1024 transparent PNGs for your Mac App Store needs.

Re: fontStyle function working?

2012-09-10 Thread Marty Knapp
Yes, exactly. I want to implement a Styles menu which will list only the styles available for the selected font. FontStyles is supposed to give a return-delimited list of styles for a given font and font size (see the dictionary). But when I try it, it always gives me plain, bold, italic and

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: You're right, yes I'm referring to the parts about running only on Apple hardware. Pete What you are saying then is Apple can't even say there is minimum system requirement for their OS. There are many people who are very

Re: an ignored breakpoint

2012-09-10 Thread Kay C Lan
Lets be thankful Revolution has progressed to LiveCode. I don't think I skinned any cats with 1.1. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Let us be thankful that most of us live in a place unlike Africa, where the cats can skin us! On Sep 9, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Dr.

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Roger Eller
There are car stereos that have a record button just like the cassette recorders of the past. Is it dishonest to press record and get a less-than-perfect mp3 recording that is perfectly acceptable to the listener (for free)? I don't think so. If I really loove the song, I'll buy a CD rather

Multiple Windows iOS

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Hi, I'm working on a project that is an electronic music history textbook (Colin would know whom I'm working with). It's initially for student laptops, but we intend to create an iPad version later. The main stack on the computer now is a 1024 x 728-pixel window with a number of other

Re: Multiple Windows iOS

2012-09-10 Thread Colin Holgate
I think that would be unexpected UI. Take a look at the app iMapWeather, could your thing work in a similar way to that? Here's the free version: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/imapweather-lite/id435197453?mt=8 In that app there are a set of panels that you can scroll through, and you can

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

2012-09-10 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote: There are car stereos that have a record button just like the cassette recorders of the past. Is it dishonest to press record and get a less-than-perfect mp3 recording that is perfectly acceptable to the listener

Re: Multiple Windows iOS

2012-09-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 9/10/12 10:20 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: The main stack on the computer now is a 1024 x 728-pixel window with a number of other smaller windows/stacks (a glossary, a music score, etc.) that show as needed. Having not done an iPad app and not really seeing much of this kind of thing, is this

NumberFormat

2012-09-10 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Hi, I can't seem to get the numberFormat working. I want a number with zeros in front up to 3 places. I'm trying with no luck: set the numberFormat to 000 put (1 + 0) into paddedNumber paddedNumber is always 1, not 001 which I want. Any suggestions? Peter Bogdanoff UCLA

Re: NumberFormat

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter- Monday, September 10, 2012, 10:43:05 PM, you wrote: I want a number with zeros in front up to 3 places. Any suggestions? put format(%03d, 1) into paddedNumber -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list