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On 10/9/2014 8:25 PM, David Beck wrote:
Does anybody know what the status is with codesigning standalones built for
Mac OS in a way that works with OS 10.9.5? I have not been able to find a
definitive answer. I take it this article is out of date?
Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
http://qery.us/3fi
LiveCode on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/
On 10/11/2014 23:11, stephen barncard wrote:
actually I think dates should be expressed like this: 20141012 - great
for sorting
Hello,
I'm posting this to help any other poor saps who run into this insanity:
I want to count the words in a field. I have:
set the itemDel to space
put the number of words of field myTest into field myNumber
Here is what happens:
I am testing the word count in LiveCode 6.1.1. Believe
The dictionary clearly says that quoted strings are counted as a single word.
If you wanted to work around that as an issue by using the itemDelimiter, you
would then look at the number of items in the field, not the number of words.
There’s a better option though, you can see how many
Please tell me where it says that in the dictionary - I could find nothing
about it.
I also searched the User Guide for quoted strings and also smart quotes
and found nothing.
I also searched both the dictionary and the User Guide for truewords and
found nothing.
So I'm very mystified where
Here are some of the relevant parts from the Dictionary entry for ‘word’:
Summary:
Designates a space-delimited or quoted string as part of a chunk expression.
Comments:
A word is delimited by one or more spaces, tabs, or returns, or enclosed by
double quotes. A single word can contain
Larry,
From the word entry:
Comments:
A word is delimited by one or more spaces, tabs, or returns, or enclosed
by double quotes. A single word can contain multiple characters and
multiple items, but not multiple lines.
Note: Words are delimited by double quotes (), but not by curved quotes
Hi Larry,
the itemDel is the character that delimits ITEMS, not words. You could use it
to get around your problem with quotes. If you set the itemDel to space, you
would then look for the number of ITEMS in the field. Thats not quite the end
of it though, because there may not be a space
Ah, and then there are tabs to deal with, and double-spaces will count an empty
item between. It may be better to just replace the quotes with curly-quotes,
count the words, and then replace the curly-quotes back to quotes if you want.
On Oct 12, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com
On 10/12/2014, 1:56 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
Please tell me where it says that in the dictionary - I could find
nothing about it.
Under the entry for word:
Designates a space-delimited or quoted string as part of a chunk expression.
Note: Words are delimited by double quotes
On 10/12/2014, 1:17 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
btw, I spoke to a programmer friend of mine (who used to work for
Novell) and he said he'd never heard anything like that in the
several programming languages he knows.
It's been in x-talk since HyperCard.
BTW, the trueword token was
Wouldn’t it be good if RunRev could add WordDelimiter to the dictionary, would
that solve the problem.
I believe it exists in SuperCard.
I thought LiveCode was a more modern version of SuperCard and would surely have
this option.
All the best
Terry
On 12 Oct 2014, at 20:20, Jerry Jensen
Yes, but the current concept of delimiting words is not a single character.
Space, tab, return all work. Now, if you could say:
set the wordDel to space or tab or return
That would be the ticket! Or you could extend it using that pesky unicode
definition and call it trueword. H...
On Oct
Easy to say, but how does one replace the quotes with curly-quotes?
I can't find out where it says how to do that.
Sorry I'm so lame.
Larry
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:26 PM
Hi Terry,
Here is the real problem. I don't know much.
I'm sitting here assuming that a word is a word, regardless of whether it is
inside quotes.
Now I find out there is trueword. It's just hard for me to reconcile
LiveCode's boast of simple English and stuff like this.
The other thing I
Not lame. Good question! I've always tried to get RID of curly-quotes, never
tried to use them. So, I pasted one in from Word and found out using charToNum
that its number 210.
replace quote with numToChar(210) in field foo
--do your counting
replace numToChar(210) with quote in field foo
Larry.
But you can make your own dictionary. Without limit. Most of that, too, has
been possible since Hypercard. You can define your own properties, commands and
functions, and place them in permanent use in several ways, for example, as a
library stack in use or a plug-in.
Have you ever
Hi Craig,
I've written several functions within stacks, but have no idea how to create a
library stack or, seems better, as a plug-in.
For example, one function I use in many of the programs I'm writing is:
commaInsert:
on commaInsert
put round(thisFigure) into thisFigure
if thisFigure 0
larry wrote:
Here is the real problem. I don't know much.
I'm sitting here assuming that a word is a word, regardless of
whether it is inside quotes.
Now I find out there is trueword. It's just hard for me to reconcile
LiveCode's boast of simple English and stuff like this.
I hear ya',
Terence-
Sunday, October 12, 2014, 12:38:53 PM, you wrote:
Wouldnt it be good if RunRev could add WordDelimiter to the
dictionary, would that solve the problem.
I believe it exists in SuperCard.
I thought LiveCode was a more modern version of SuperCard and would surely
have this option.
Hello Mark,
It truly pleases me that you explained a reason for text within quotes being
a single word.
I don't have enough experience (actually none) in defining arguments for
commandline syntax and would never have thought of that.
So now I must say, OK, there is a reason.
However, I would
larry-
Sunday, October 12, 2014, 5:16:45 PM, you wrote:
Hello Mark,
It truly pleases me that you explained a reason for text within quotes being
a single word.
Glad I could help.
I don't have enough experience (actually none) in defining arguments for
commandline syntax and would never
Roger - thanks for the suggestion. That worked well for me. I also
discovered in poking around a little that bluetooth transfers work, too.
On 10/11/2014 9:48 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I have found that if the device doesn't mount as a USB drive, the next best
method is dropbox. Install
Mark,
This is why personal functions are so important. You like having all the
words within quotes being seen as a single word for commandline calls.
On the other hand, it is giving me fits having to go from regular quotes to
curly quotes (for counting) and then back to regular quotes for
Larry,
Change the first line of your function to
function commaInsert thisFigure
Better yet:
function commaInsert pFigure
put pFigure into thisFigure
Then add before the last end the following line
return thisFigure
If you have your function anywhere in the path (like in the stack
script
Hi Robert,
I understand what you wrote. That is not a problem for me.
What I want is to be able to put my function into the LC IDE so that I can
use it in other stacks.
You mention a library stack. I do not know how to make one or use one. Is
there some tutorial or something that will tell me
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
wrote:
I hear ya', but like so many other oddities in the language this one came
from Apple,
Sheer brilliance! One of the first analogies of HyperCard was that it was a
an electronic rolodex. Here is a list of names:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
sort lines of myListOfNames by word of -1 each
sort lnes of myListOfNames by word -1 of each
Hate it when I hit send and then immediately see an error in my typing.
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Hello,
2 questions this time:
1) I have a program where I'm creating and deleting fields. If I try to delete
a field that hasn't yet been created, I get a script error. So is there a way
to first find out if the field exists?
Something like:
if field myField01 exists then
do stuff
end if
Open the User Guide (from the IDE Help Menu select 'User Guide' and type
Library in your pdf viewer's search box. Chapter 5.8 'Extending the Message
Path' should come up as the first hit.
This also may be helpful:
Hello Kay,
Mark gave me a short explanation of why it is good to see the words within
quotes as one word and now you've given a longer and more detailed
explanation.
So I thank you and I will stop throwing rocks at my computer.
Larry
P.S. I still want to understand how to write my own
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:05 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
1) I have a program where I'm creating and deleting fields.
Why are you creating them and deleting them? Why aren't the fields already
there and you just show and hide them?
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On 12.10.2014 at 19:58 Uhr -0600 la...@significantplanet.org
apparently wrote:
Hi Robert,
I understand what you wrote. That is not a problem for me.
What I want is to be able to put my function into the LC IDE so that
I can use it in other stacks.
You mention a library stack. I do not know
On 10/12/2014, 7:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
What I'd need to
do in that case is say
linecount some file with spaces.txt
And then the operating system would treat everything within the quotes
as a single parameter.
Which is probably the same reason the HC team did it that way, because
the
Hello Kay,
I read the chapter in the user guide about creating a library.
I also read insert script in the dictionary and it talks about a limit of
10 scripts(10 front and 10 back) in the compiled app.
What I'm unclear about is, may I have multiple functions within, say, a card
or stack script?
That is a really good question! And I have a really good answer!
Because the fields are dynamic and not always the same ones needed.
But you've given me a new thought: Maybe I can just create all the fields I
will ever possibly need and then just show and hide them.
I'm going to think about
On 10/12/2014, 7:42 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
On the other hand, it is giving me fits having to go from regular quotes
to curly quotes (for counting) and then back to regular quotes for
display (since LC displays a curly quote as some oddball char). But if
I could write my own
On 10/12/2014, 9:05 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
1) I have a program where I'm creating and deleting fields. If I try
to delete a field that hasn't yet been created, I get a script error.
So is there a way to first find out if the field exists?
Did you look up exists in the
HI Larry,
That information is out of date, there are no more script limits, these
were removed when LC went Community - yippeee ;-)
You can test this by, in the message box:
put the scriptLimits
it should return, 0,0,0,0
so you are free to make your script library as huge as you want and your
On Oct 12, 2014, at 10:51 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
A backscript is just a script you write that you can put into the message
path; it receives messages after everything else gets a shot at them. The
script can live in any object; buttons are common storage places. That's
probably what
On 10/12/2014, 10:04 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote:
You can create a plugin that opens invisibly when you start up
LiveCode, and the plugin can contain a button with a script full of
whatever functions and commands you want to have available. Then you
can put this into the plugin stack script:
on
On 10/12/2014, 9:29 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
What I'm unclear about is, may I have multiple functions within, say, a
card or stack script? In other words, if I have one script that
contains 10 commands within it that could be called up, is that counted
as 1 script or as 10
larry-
Sunday, October 12, 2014, 7:10:26 PM, you wrote:
So I thank you and I will stop throwing rocks at my computer.
LOL. Don't stop throwing rocks - it's an essential part of
programming.
--
-Mark Wieder
ahsoftw...@gmail.com
This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:33 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
Maybe I can just create all the fields I will ever possibly need and then
just show and hide them.
That is certainly an approach I've used many many times, especially if the
number of fields is large. If the number of fields
larry-
Sunday, October 12, 2014, 6:58:21 PM, you wrote:
You mention a library stack. I do not know how to make one or use one. Is
there some tutorial or something that will tell me how?
Well, *do* followup on reading Richard Gaskin's writeup on the message
path. But meanwhile try this... put
Thanks everyone for the info on libraries and backscripts, etc.
I feel like I'm back in college taking an intensive class.
If I understand everyone correctly, I could do this if I want my functions
to work in a standalone:
Make a stack that has a button (or the stack itself, right?) with all
Accidently hit the Send button. Here is what I meant to type:
lock screen
if the label of btn selectMethod = Output then
set the height of fld multipurpose to 123
set the width of fld multipurpose to 456
set the loc of fld multipurpose to 200,200
etc
put
On 10/12/2014, 10:23 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
larry-
Sunday, October 12, 2014, 7:10:26 PM, you wrote:
So I thank you and I will stop throwing rocks at my computer.
LOL. Don't stop throwing rocks - it's an essential part of
programming.
Absolutely. I keep a pile of rocks next to my desk. By
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
wrote:
One thing to mention though is that these custom solutions won't transfer
to stacks that are distributed to others
The other thing to remember is a plugin can't be edited as easily as any
other stack. If Larry is
On 10/12/2014, 10:42 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote:
Jacque has a lovely talent for seeing simple solutions. I have an
unfortunate obsession with saving bytes from ye olden days.
Thank you, but I'm afraid any talent I have is due to total oblivion
about such things. I'm a one-trick language pony, I
On 10/12/2014, 10:29 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
Thanks everyone for the info on libraries and backscripts, etc.
I feel like I'm back in college taking an intensive class.
If I understand everyone correctly, I could do this if I want my
functions to work in a standalone:
Make a
On Oct 12, 2014, at 9:03 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
On 10/12/2014, 10:42 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote:
Jacque has a lovely talent for seeing simple solutions. I have an
unfortunate obsession with saving bytes from ye olden days.
Thank you, but I'm afraid any talent I have
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote:
On Oct 12, 2014, at 9:03 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
wrote:
My motto is: Bytes be damned, let the engine handle it.
I say right out loud that is totally appropriate for this millenium.
.Jerry
Yes,
Here's a function to count the words disregarding quotes. Note that it's
important to replace quotes with space, because there are three words in
this isthree words
and there are three words in
this isthree words
but you want to count four words, which this will do:
function
Hi.
You have plenty to think about. But maybe something more concrete will get you
started. You are certainly game. Make two new stacks. They will be named
untitled 1 and untitled 2. No matter.
In stack untitled 1 place a button. In its script put:
on mouseUp
start using stack untitled 2
Jacque-
Sunday, October 12, 2014, 8:43:34 PM, you wrote:
Absolutely. I keep a pile of rocks next to my desk. By the end of winter
I've usually run out, and there is too much snow to go get more, so then
I start throwing my husband. He has opinions about that.
When I started out, all we had
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