Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Bill and others, I appreciate the feedback regarding the feature breakdown between the different licenses. The decision to split the features (and how they were split) across Business and Indy was decided on by the LiveCode team. I expect that some of them may have seen this thread,

Re: Not Corruption

2017-01-06 Thread Kay C Lan via use-livecode
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > And my first stint of practicing law led to Hawkins' Second Law: There is > no lower bound to human intelligence. > > (I've forgotten the first law; it was a special case of the second) > I'm assuming the old "The

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
"A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary statement. LiveCode is a business, with expenses and a stable of highly skilled and valuable developers. Which of them would you like us to fire? We need to pay for LiveCode's development so that all of the users in the community

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Well. That's the problem you see. DMARC rejects mail on the basis that it does not come from the same address as the sender ie the posting person's email is not the list address. Reversing this change will reinstate that issue. There is no good solution here, which is why I'm wondering if the

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-01-06 13:55, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: Well. That's the problem you see. DMARC rejects mail on the basis that it does not come from the same address as the sender ie the posting person's email is not the list address. Reversing this change will reinstate that issue. There is

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 6 Jan 2017, at 12:29, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: > I please plead with Heather to reverse that particular change. Seconded, with bells on! :( k --- Keith Martin Senior Lecturer, LCC (University of the Arts London) Technical Editor, MacUser magazine (1997-2015)

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 6 Jan 2017, at 12:55, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: Well. That's the problem you see. DMARC rejects mail on the basis that it does not come from the same address as the sender ie the posting person's email is not the list address. Actually, what *I* now see is emails being marked

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I don't really see what all the fuss is about. I have been "bounced"/"blocked" or whatever it is called 7 times: but as it takes about 30 seconds to reset things after the first one or two times I couldn't be bothered getting annoyed with it. Whether a posting i labelled as "via" or not

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thank you very much for that recipe Peter Brett; very useful as I use Thunderbird on both Mac and Linux. Returning to Macintosh I realise how much my experience on Mac has been enriched by what I learnt from a 10 year sojourn on Linux . . . Richmond. On 1/6/17 5:43 pm, Alex Tweedly via

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Bouncy, bouncy, rubber ball . . . 30 seconds . . . Not really the end of the world. Richmond. On 1/6/17 5:56 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: -1 I plead with Heather to NOT reverse this recent change! Cmon, no one sees that people getting bounced is MUCH WORSE than the inconvenience

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:49 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > "A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary > statement. LiveCode is a business, with expenses and a stable of highly > skilled and valuable developers. Which of them

Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

2017-01-06 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
gotta say... looking at livecode.com it is very clear that livecode is nearly hoping that people won't notice that there is an open source version and buy a license because they didn't know any better. shadyshady.. almost understandable, but why go open source if you gonna pretend

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 01/06/2017 04:29 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Unless there a real advantage that I can't think of, or a need, for this change, could I please plead with Heather to reverse that particular change. I believe the change that Heather (et al?) made to the MailMan configuration is

Something Screwy about Scrollbars

2017-01-06 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
I have noticed that standard sliders/scrollbars seem to cause weird performance problems. What I think is happening is a severe performance hit after (and only after) saving AND quitting a stack with a new slider. Upon reopening the stack performance is severely degraded. This happened to me

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 6 Jan 2017, at 12:49, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: "A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary statement. LiveCode is a business, with expenses and a stable of highly skilled and valuable developers. I meant this in the traditional 'online pushy chatty'

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Peter TB Brett via use-livecode
On 06/01/2017 12:29, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Now that's impossible - all emails in the thread appear from the same address, and need to be individually opened to see who they were from, and so searching for a reply that I remember ws from (say) Richard is much harder. Hi Alex, Do

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The "via" for this gmail user doesn't pose any issues, so if this change solves the unsubscribe problem, yay! On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I don't really see what all the fuss is about. > > I have been

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 30 Dec 2016, at 12:41, Skip Kimpel wrote: +1 LC needs to reconsider breaking up functionality based upon licensing. Indeed! I haven't looked in depth at the differences, but I thought it was more (or even entirely) about support, which makes sense for high-level business requirements,

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
-1 I plead with Heather to NOT reverse this recent change! Cmon, no one sees that people getting bounced is MUCH WORSE than the inconvenience of what your from address looks like?? Bob S > On Jan 6, 2017, at 04:29 , Alex Tweedly via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Yes, and Yes. That does indeed solve the problem for me - I too now see "Some Name via use-livecode" so all my functionality and preferred way of working is restored. And, as I said originally - if there's a need for this, then I would have happily put up with (sorry - "accepted") it just

Changes to use-livecode list.

2017-01-06 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
I know Heather has just made some changes to try to solve the 'bounce' problem. But I think in doing so a new problem has arisen. It used to be that email from the list showed up as 'from' : someu...@theiraddress.com 'reply-to' : use-livecode@lists.runrev.com They now show up as

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. My greatest aprehension in using Livecode is that one day it will be gone, and I will have to learn to use C++ or Objective C, which is to say I will have to give up software development. I'm not really sure how they stay afloat as is, but as I

Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
I totally agree with you and could not have said it better. > Am 06.01.2017 um 17:09 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > >: > > Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. My greatest aprehension in using > Livecode is

RE: TS Net for Indy vs Business

2017-01-06 Thread Jim MacConnell via use-livecode
+1 Well said. ... there's no way I can justify the expense other than to tell myself I'm supporting something worthwhile in about the only way I can. Jim M. -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: