Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-02 19:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: The problem, such as it is, is that the Unicode specifications have 128 * 8703 slots for glyphs (= a big number my mind cannot cope with) and the display in my "CHAR REF" stack is set up to cope with 128 glyphs a go: hence 8703 butto

Re: OMG WTF detailed files BST?

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-03-31 19:23, Local (BenR) wrote: Hi Mark, Thanks for your response, very helpful. Unfortunately I don't know what the filesystem of the volume with the files is - this is a client's network, and they set up a VM in the DMZ for me to work on, with this network share mounted - but I've no

when is LC 8.1.4 to be expected?

2017-04-03 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello headquarter, I am just releasing a new version and the only remaining bug is the wrong windows systemVersion in 8.1.3. That's why I would like to know, if 8.1.4 is shortly to be expected and it would be worth for me to wait a few days or if it still is unscheduled and I'll go with the wrong

Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Is it possible to have a gradient with one of its end-points being transparent instead of a solid colour? I want to overlay a graphic with a vertical gradient that blends from transparent to white to give the effect that the underlying content is fading out as you move down the screen. I’m able

Re: when is LC 8.1.4 to be expected?

2017-04-03 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Tiemo, This is just an off_the_record_rumor: We would like/expect to release 8.1.4 RC-1 within this week :) Best regards, Panos -- On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hello headquarter, > > I am just releasing a new ve

AW: when is LC 8.1.4 to be expected?

2017-04-03 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Thanks Panos, I won't spread such rumors! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Gesendet: Montag, 3. April 2017 11:56 An: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Betreff: Re:

Re: Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-03 11:37, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: Is it possible to have a gradient with one of its end-points being transparent instead of a solid colour? Yes the color values you specify for gradients can have an alpha component. For example: 0.5,255,0,0 -> at half way through the

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 77

2017-04-03 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #77 here: https://goo.gl/Bh2qCb This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around t

Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Github is nice, but all your repos have to be public in order to be free. I went looking for private ones (because there are things you just can't do without a remote repo, and I don't want all my code in the open) So far I've found two: 1) Github - $7/month 2) Google - free, but it's more complic

Re: Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-03 13:44, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: Github is nice, but all your repos have to be public in order to be free. I went looking for private ones (because there are things you just can't do without a remote repo, and I don't want all my code in the open) So far I've found two:

Re: Line numbers for soft-wrapped styled text?

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-03-29 12:48, hh via use-livecode wrote: Alex, before you waste valuable time: The formattedRect can NOT be used in LC 7/8/9, because of the (2^15 div 2)-limit for coordinates is active for that. I couldn't find a bug report for that so I filed one: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.

Re: Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Thanks Mark, I'll try that out. Regards, Terry... Sent from my iPad > On 3 Apr 2017, at 8:30 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On 2017-04-03 11:37, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: >> Is it possible to have a gradient with one of its end-points being >> transparent instead

Re: Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Crap. I didn't think of BitBucket. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-03 13:44, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Github is nice, but all your repos have to be public in order to be free. >> I went looking

Re: OMG WTF detailed files BST?

2017-04-03 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
The plot is slightly thickening. I restarted the VM, set the date+time to not adjust for daylight saving, restarted again. This removed some 30,000 images from the list with allegedly modified timestamps; the ones that were no longer consider to have changed were - in some year or other - modifi

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
:-D > On Apr 2, 2017, at 18:23 , Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > wrote: > > Channeling Sensei again for fun - Does man with million chopsticks line them > all side by side, only one layer deep? He need very big custom table, very > expensive, no more bamboo or tree left for chopstick. __

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The short version: Datagrid GOOD! Bob S > On Apr 2, 2017, at 23:58 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2017-04-02 19:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: >> The problem, such as it is, is that the Unicode specifications have >> 128 * 8703 slots for glyphs (= a big

Re: when is LC 8.1.4 to be expected?

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
You should have given him the standard response: "Two Weeks" Bob S > On Apr 3, 2017, at 02:55 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Tiemo, > > This is just an off_the_record_rumor: > > We would like/expect to release 8.1.4 RC-1 within this week :) > > Best regards, > Panos

Re: Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread pink via use-livecode
I'm a fan of GitLab, you can host your own or use their service for free. See: https://about.gitlab.com/products/ - --- Greg (pink) Miller mad, pink and dangerous to code -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Private-Repo-Services-tp4713596p471360

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
One of the beautiful things about making GUIs in LiveCode is that we generally get a very satisfying and immediate sense of physicality with the controls we're working with: we envision the user interface, drag out controls to match that vision, and we have a one-to-one correspondence between

Re: Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Personally I'd fake it: I'd set up a gradient with one end being transparent in my graphics weapon of choice (GIMP) and save it as a PNG image, import it and overlay it on top of your content, then make sure you group it with your content before you do an export from group "JazzyGradient" to

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
20,000 "LIKES" - Richard! You have expressed so well my feelings that I couldn't find the words for. [rant] The power we have in this tool [Livecode] cannot be overstated. We have to remember it's "just" a tool-kit and there's a lot of stuff that's already pre-assembled. And the rest can be hand-r

Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Was anyone aware that the sign takes up one of the digital in number format? For instance, set the numberformat to "00";put -1 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 returns: -1:00:00 but set the numberformat to "00";put -12 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 returns: -12:00:00 Does no one else find that odd

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-03 Thread dunbarx via use-livecode
Hi. Hmmm. When you say "...the sign takes up one of the digital " does this make it better or worse: set the numberformat to "00" put -1112 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 or going the other way, with your top snippet, did you expect: -01:00:00 Craig Newman -- View this message in cont

Re: Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Would exporting a snapshot work well enough for your needs? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 3, 2017 4:39:07 AM Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: Is it possible to have a gradient wi

Re: Private Repo Services

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
And I didn't read far enough right on gitlab, either. When I was looking at it, I misread the left side, which is for me hosting, not for them hosting. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubs

Re: Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread Scott Rossi via use-livecode
The thing about using a graphic gradient (as opposed to an image) is the graphic is infinitely more flexible: - variable size (no loss of quality when resizing) - variable colors - variable transparency As far as exporting goes, last I checked, I don’t think ink effects export intact, even when

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thanks for such an informative posting. On 4/3/17 9:58 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-04-02 19:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: The problem, such as it is, is that the Unicode specifications have 128 * 8703 slots for glyphs (= a big number my mind cannot cope

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> RichardG wrote: > > the memory and CPU requirements for working with tens of thousands of objects > can be onerous Not to mention how onerous it would be for the poor end user to work with tens of thousands of objects! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode

Is there a way to find out the SQLite Driver version of my LC ?

2017-04-03 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
is there a way of finding the SQLite driver version of my LC Version? can't find it for the life of me... its probably obvious and right there...preferably by script .. There appear tp be lots of performance improvements, dramatic ones, in recent versions. https://www.sqlite.org/news.html Than

New Features?

2017-04-03 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Anyone know where to write LC for a feature request? In case your curious… Don’t know if it’s possible or not, but I want to request the abliltiy to set the scaleFactor of a object (specifically a group of objects). Thanks in advance, -Dan ___ use-l

iOS app rejected five times because of background audio setting

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Miller via use-livecode
I have gone back and forth with Apple five times in an attempt to get this setting correct. I made the mistake originally of enabling the background audio option in the iOS standalone settings area. I was trying to prevent the app from exiting when the user switched to a different app. I know t

Re: Is there a way to find out the SQLite Driver version of my LC ?

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
You should be able to open an in memory database (or database file, whatever) and then do.. *get *revdatafromquery(,,1,"select sqlite_version()") -- where 1 is the database connector id, and the select statement is obvious. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode < use-livecode@

Re: Is there a way to find out the SQLite Driver version of my LC ?

2017-04-03 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
btw. on ver 9 dp6 I get 3.15.0 On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > You should be able to open an in memory database (or database file, > whatever) and then do.. > > *get *revdatafromquery(,,1,"select sqlite_version()") -- where 1 is the > database connector id, and the select st

Re: New Features?

2017-04-03 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
On Apr 3, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Anyone know where to write LC for a feature request? In case your curious… Don’t know if it’s possible or not, but I want to request the abliltiy to set the scaleFactor of a object (specifi

Re: Is there a way to find out the SQLite Driver version of my LC ?

2017-04-03 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
thanks mikeshould have thought of that. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > btw. on ver 9 dp6 I get 3.15.0 > > On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > > > You should be able to open an in memory database (or data

RE: iOS app rejected five times because of background audio setting

2017-04-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Richard, Been down this road. Ticking the "Background Audio" option sets UIBackgroundModes key to "audio" as well as setting UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend=False to keep you app active. If you are not actually playing background audio then you will get rejected. The way to do this is to edit the app.

Re: New Features?

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dan Friedman wrote: > Anyone know where to write LC for a feature request? The bug DB allows feature request submissions. > In case your curious… Don’t know if it’s possible or not, but I > want to request the abliltiy to set the scaleFactor of a object > (specifically a group of objects). Al

RE: iOS app rejected five times because of background audio setting

2017-04-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
After reading closer: 1) Make sure that the "Background Audio" is un-ticked. 2) Do the "plist hack" as enumerated in my last email. 3) This is all I do and have never been rejected for the "Background Audio" issue. 4) I have never tried to submit to the store with v9. This might be a v9 issue. UIB

Re: iOS app rejected five times because of background audio setting

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Miller via use-livecode
Thanks for the info, Ralph. I had figured out the exit-on-suspend issue previously. In my last app submission, I completely removed the entire section in the info.plist file which referenced UIBackgroundModes, but they still rejected it on the same claim that background audio was enabled. This t

Re: New Features?

2017-04-03 Thread hh via use-livecode
Interesting thread about scalefactor (lower half is your issue): http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/scaleFactor-strangeness-tc4697399.html#none >Dan F. wrote: >Anyone know where to write LC for a feature request? >In case your curious… Don’t know if it’s possible or not, but I want t

Script to find bottom of lowest field

2017-04-03 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Hi script wizards! I have a card containing a number of fields. I want to add another field, but position this new field to have its top 20 pixels lower than the bottom of any of the existing fields. Does anyone already have a magic script to do this? I also want to learn something new! Peter

RE: iOS app rejected five times because of background audio setting

2017-04-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I just looked at the info.plist from my last app that Apple approved. 1) The UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key is not there. 2) the UIBackgroundModes key looks like what you see. UIBackgroundModes What does your info.plist in the app look like? OPTION 2: You bumped up against an less

Re: Script to find bottom of lowest field

2017-04-03 Thread hh via use-livecode
on mouseUp put 20+maxbottom() end mouseUp -- note: invisible or hidden fields are included function maxbottom repeat with i=1 to the num of fields of this card put the bottom of fld i of this card into b[i] end repeat return max(b) end maxbottom __

RE: Script to find bottom of lowest field

2017-04-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Not tested: Put -9 into tMax Repeat with I = 1 to the number of fields of this card Put the max (tmax,the bottom of field I) into tMax End repeat Create field Put it into tField Set the top tField to tMax + 20 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yes I expected this. It's not that I cannot work around it, it's just that it seems it ought to put 2 zeros where 2 zeros are specified in the numberFormat and if it doesn't and should, then I will file an (admittedly low priority) bug report. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:16 , dunbarx via u

Single File Deploy on Windows?

2017-04-03 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
So, I deliver a single file for my LC standalones on Windows. Any required DLLs or other needed files are downloaded at runtime and put in place on launch. However, in LC 9.0.0 it seems there is a dll, “tsNet.dll” that must be in place to even launch! UG!! Is there a way to deploy a Windows

Re: Script to find bottom of lowest field

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
A sneakier way would be to select all, group them, then get the bottom of the group, then ungroup them again. Account for group margins (2 or 3 pixels or something). If there are other objects of course that won't help you. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2017, at 15:02 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode >

Re: Script to find bottom of lowest field

2017-04-03 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Yes, max and an array. Thanks Hermann!! On Apr 3, 2017, at 2:58 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote: > on mouseUp > put 20+maxbottom() > end mouseUp > > -- note: invisible or hidden fields are included > function maxbottom > repeat with i=1 to the num of fields of this card >put the bottom of

Re: Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Hi Terry, Terry Judd wrote: > I want to overlay a graphic with a vertical gradient > that blends from transparent to white to give the effect > that the underlying content is fading out as you move > down the screen. I’m able to achieve this effect using a > black and white linear gradient in comb

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-03 Thread hh via use-livecode
TMHO, this could be a feature request rather than a bug report. The zeros in the number format determine the num of characters and "-" is one. Also we have -0 = 0. So what about "-01:-00:-00" ?? > Bob S. wrote: > "-01:00:00"? > Yes I expected this. It's not that I cannot work around it, > it's ju

Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dan Friedman wrote: > So, I deliver a single file for my LC standalones on Windows. Any > required DLLs or other needed files are downloaded at runtime and put > in place on launch. However, in LC 9.0.0 it seems there is a dll, > “tsNet.dll” that must be in place to even launch! UG!! Is there

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The time format is irrelevant. It just so happens I have a function for calculating the difference in time, and when the first character is a - I know the end time is earlier than the start time, which was what I was checking for. And I think you are mistaken. numberFormat sets the format for n

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-03 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Bob S. worte: > I have a function for calculating the difference in time Then you mean -(01:00:00) and not (-01):(00):(00), quite different. AFAIK most languages do such time evaluations as follows 1) compute the time in seconds, 2) convert its absolute value to time format, and 3) if negative,

Re: Gradients with transparency?

2017-04-03 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Thanks for all the responses. I really wanted to use a graphic rather than importing an image for all the reasons that Scott mentioned. Mark’s method works of adding an alpha value to the ramp settings of the fillgradient property of the graphic works perfectly so there is a (relatively) simple

Re: Single File Deploy on Windows?

2017-04-03 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
Can an empty file placeholder be created within preOpenStack, then extract the real DLL when it is really needed? On Apr 3, 2017 6:34 PM, "Dan Friedman via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > So, I deliver a single file for my LC standalones on Windows. Any > required DLLs or

Re: New Features?

2017-04-03 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Hi Dan, Dan Friedman wrote: > I want to request the ability to set the scaleFactor > of a object (specifically a group of objects). Could you test the resize script of this stack? http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=28042 After I finish some pending work, I plan to expand this script

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Sometimes an illusion of an illusion in the illusion. So that's my > allusion. > elusively alluded alliteration . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462