Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Aha! I'm listening to "the man" himself. Thank you very much indeed. I do hope you still find time to keep practicing the piano as a programmer who also plays the piano does an awful lot to dispell the geek myth. Best, Richmond. On 7/4/17 10:20 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-04 09:28, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: BUT . . . How can one know how high one can set the recursionLimit before smoke, sparks and flames are going to start leaping out of the back of the computer? Or, less frivolously; how can one determine the upper limit on the

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well I'm not doing infinite recursion: MouseUp Script inside button "GO2" sending "mouseDown" to button "GO2" onmouseUp put0 intoSTOPP ifintersect(img "ball1",img "stop") then put1 intoSTOPP endif ifintersect(img "ball2",img "stop") then put1 intoSTOPP endif ifintersect(img "ball3",img

AW: [OT] Renewing Apple Developer ID Installer Certificate

2017-07-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hi Marty, even if your certificate expires on wednesday, your old signed apps will never expire, you just can't sign a new app with the old expired certificate. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Marty Knapp

Re: Sharp as a pound (was Array assignment...)

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-29 18:45, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: So long as we all generally agree that "#" can be called "pound, Hash or Sharp" (not so sure I agree with the last one btw) then we can talk about it. So far as the computer is concerned, it's ascii(035) and even that is a synonym for

Re: Sharp as a pound (was Array assignment...)

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Macintosh: On a US keyboard the '#' sign is Shift-3 (where, on a British keyboard there is a pound sign). On a British keyboard, as Mark correctly states, it is Alt/Opt-3. On a German keyboard the '#' is Shift + Alt/Opt-3. On a French keyboard the '#' is Shift + Alt/Opt-' (the key that is

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
If the mouseDown handler calls the mouseUp again, then it's a type of recursion. You can avoid that by sending the mouseDown after the mouseUp has ended : if STOPP = 0 then send "mouseDown" to btn "GO2" in 0 end if (I wonder why your scripts lose all the spaces when they pass through the

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-29 21:13, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Don't know about the 'less confusing' part, but otherwise ruby lets you interleave them: if there's an associated name with a parameter then that parameter gets assigned to that variable. Otherwise you have to work with the parameter

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi Richmond, I'm wondering if the recursion limit is limited within the IDE and you are allowed to recurse to your hearts content in a standalone. Well that's what I would surmise from the error message - IDEstack. I could be wrong though. Regards Lagi On 4 July 2017 at 08:05, Richmond

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 7/4/17 10:11 am, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: Hi Richmond, I'm wondering if the recursion limit is limited within the IDE and you are allowed to recurse to your hearts content in a standalone. Possibly . . . I don't know how to 'recurse' but I do know how to 'curse to my heart's

Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"the handler: revIDEStackNameIsIDEStack has reached the recursion limit of: 40. Execution will be terminated to prevent hang" OK, OK, hanging is a type of execution. This is "all very charming" but I want the script to go on "crawling up its own bottom" considerably longer than that . . .

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
BUT . . . How can one know how high one can set the recursionLimit before smoke, sparks and flames are going to start leaping out of the back of the computer? Or, less frivolously; how can one determine the upper limit on the recursionLimit before the stack "hangs" (presumably that means

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 21:57, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Most of us are well aware that LiveCode is NOT Hypercard any more than I am not a small, furry mouselike mammal that danced around the toes of dying dinosaurs: LiveCode is descended from HyperCard, and I may be descended from small,

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-04 09:05, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: "the handler: revIDEStackNameIsIDEStack has reached the recursion limit of: 40. Execution will be terminated to prevent hang" OK, OK, hanging is a type of execution. This is "all very charming" but I want the script to go on

debugging a CEF browser instance

2017-07-04 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
After a very long time away from Livecode, I'm trying to get back into it. On 8.1.4 in the Windows IDE I have a browser instance where a standalone web page with some Javascript code is not working. The same page works if I load it into Chrome. So, I thought there might be a way to display the

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
If a maze has modest dimensions such as 50 x 100 squares, LiveCode should be able to handle a recursive solution with no issues. If a maze has very large dimensions or irregular paths to test, I would play it safe by using pseudo recursion or other techniques. That way you "burn rubber" on

I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Todd Fabacher via use-livecode
Hello Livecode group, I have a situation where we need a slider, not a straight line, but as a circle. I thing Scott Rossi did a demo of this at San Diego LC conference, but I can't find the code samples to check. I just need to restrict the movement to a circle when the user moves their finger.

How to avoid window flickering with changing focus?

2017-07-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello, I have a LC 8.1.4 program on Windows. My program has a kind of a quiz and I am using a modal window to prompt for answers. The quiz runs in a loop until the user exits the quiz. When the user clicks a button of the modal window to give an answer and close the modal window. Some handlers

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode
Hi Todd, I found my slides to the 2013 liveCode conference, where I did circle sliders using animation engine. If that is of interest, let me know. Cheers, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 21:34, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Heh. Autocomplete, I think, works well when you already have an idea where you're going. I don't think it would help much with a line like "if x " If the autocomplete mechanism is good enough then it could it would come up with a list

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-26 22:29, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 6/26/17 3:14 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: On 6/26/17 11:07 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Just please don't remove the ones we've got. I haven't typed out "background" or "card" in 30 years. My brain

Re: Recursion limit

2017-07-04 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Why not put this in a "repeat forever" loop and test for iStopp=0, then exit repeat when true? Put 1 into iStopp Repeat while iStopp<>0 Intersect testing code that puts 0 into iStopp, appropriately If iStopp=0 then Exit repeat End if End repeat Of course, there is probably some

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
On 04/07/2017 09:18, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Syntax is just sugar - you need to implement the feature at all levels underneath for it to work... Like most things (unfortunately), there's usually a great deal of depth involved - usually directly proportional to the generality of

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Hmm . . . I've made myself a jaggy circle by setting the points of an irregular polygon to a sequence generated with a merry sine/cosine function . . . Now it's "dead easy (whatever that's supposed to mean) to animate a "knob" round a "dial" as in: move grc "KNOB" to the points of grc

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
In the version I did you can also squash the oval in either direction, and the button still hugs the edge. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Sharp as a pound (was Array assignment...)

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/04/2017 12:28 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: 'Sharp' because it is used in music to denote sharpening of the base note (despite my musical background, I still see it as 'hash' in my mind when I see it though). '#' is, was, and should be and octothorpe. -- Mark Wieder

Re: Polly's gone, or at least she's hiding in 8.1.4

2017-07-04 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
It is odd that the menu item is there. It fails because that kind of control isn’t added by dragging from the tool palette, you have to create it with many mouse clicks. If it did make a control, what would it look like? If you think you’ve added polygon graphics in the past, could it be that

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Renato Muzzini via use-livecode
> Il giorno 04/lug/2017, alle ore 16:20, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode > ha scritto: > > Hello Livecode group, > > I have a situation where we need a slider, not a straight line, but as a > circle. I thing Scott Rossi did a demo of this at San Diego LC

Re: Polly's gone, or at least she's hiding in 8.1.4

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Ah: this does create a graphic object which is invisible, and the only way to make it visible is to set it to some other type of graphic (reactangle, regular polygon). This won't do. Richmond. On 7/4/17 7:07 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Mac OS 10.7.8 Object/New Control/Polygon Graphic

Re: PrintPaperRectangle

2017-07-04 Thread Paul Hibbert via use-livecode
i came to the same conclusion, thank you for reporting it. Paul > On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode > wrote: > > By synchronicity, I start writing a very similar message a few days ago. > > I stopped writing the email when I'd typed

Re: Sharp as a pound (was Array assignment...)

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Sorry: "troy" weight is spelt "troy" (rather in the way "spelt" is spelt "spelt"). R. On 7/4/17 8:01 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Well . . . as the name "octothorpe" was coined by American telephone engineers as recently as 1968 that seems extremely dubious . . . and quite where either the

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/04/2017 01:18 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Just to point this out but 'just' changing the script parser does absolutely nothing at all beyond meaning that a piece of text of the form now accepted by said modified parser does not throw a syntax error. Said change would

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/04/2017 08:39 AM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: This is also at: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 Heh. I just went to add my vote to this and found that I had already done so some seven years ago. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Why not use a circular widget in the form of a dial? Richmond. On 7/4/17 5:20 pm, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode wrote: Hello Livecode group, I have a situation where we need a slider, not a straight line, but as a circle. I thing Scott Rossi did a demo of this at San Diego LC conference, but

Polly's gone, or at least she's hiding in 8.1.4

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Mac OS 10.7.8 Object/New Control/Polygon Graphic produces nothing. Not funny. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: PrintPaperRectangle

2017-07-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
By synchronicity, I start writing a very similar message a few days ago. I stopped writing the email when I'd typed the words "is there another print property I should be using?" and as is often the case when I draft a despairing message to the use- list, this prompted me to look a bit harder

Re: Sharp as a pound (was Array assignment...)

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well . . . as the name "octothorpe" was coined by American telephone engineers as recently as 1968 that seems extremely dubious . . . and quite where either the "octo" (=8) or the "thorpe" (='viilage', c.f Doorp, Dorf) get there is a really odd question. (part of this maybe because everything

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/04/2017 07:20 AM, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode wrote: Hello Livecode group, I have a situation where we need a slider, not a straight line, but as a circle. I thing Scott Rossi did a demo of this at San Diego LC conference, but I can't find the code samples to check. I just need to

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-04 19:14, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/04/2017 01:18 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Quite right. After I posted that bit I realized that after 'fixing' the parser one would also need to deal with the complexities of assigning the variables, and the issues

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/04/2017 01:02 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: For a problem placed before any three coders, you will find at least four different solutions. Limiting the language limits the ways in which a problem may be thought of - that's the basis of the linguistic relativism, and it

Re: Mobile Check Bandwidth Function

2017-07-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
OK I'm back.. sheesh… Spectrum purchase Time Warner Cable for some Ka bilion dollars and they run our show here now… but it took them four days to figure out that a splice in a wire between our main modem for the enterprise and the router on the street that was probably filling up with water

Re: Polly's gone, or at least she's hiding in 8.1.4

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 7/4/17 8:18 pm, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: It is odd that the menu item is there. It fails because that kind of control isn’t added by dragging from the tool palette, you have to create it with many mouse clicks. If it did make a control, what would it look like? If you think

clipboarddata mixed up

2017-07-04 Thread Matt Maier via use-livecode
I'm not sure how to figure out the difference in what's happening here. 1) use window's clipping tool to take a screenshot and hit ctrl+c to copy the picture to the clipboard 2) right click on a picture in chrome and select copy to copy the picture to the clipboard In both cases, if I open a

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/04/2017 11:34 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: It was a generic 'you' and not you 'you' :) I think part of my brain decided on 'one' there but my fingers objected ('when' should have been 'one'). Indeed in this instance 'one' in both places probably would have been better,

Re: Polly's gone, or at least she's hiding in 8.1.4

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
There's a fairly rude phrase one could use about that sort of polygon. But it would be a far, far better thing if that were sorted out to the state it was in 7.1.4. Richmond. On 7/4/17 9:31 pm, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: Yes, I see. It seems that LiveCode 8 and 9 create a polygon

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thou hast no need at all to be pompous, just a wee bit old-fashioned. Thou art more than welcome me to the extremely select club of language nutters (current membership: 1 and a few stray Mennonites) who want to bring Thou, thee, they and thine back into mainstream English usages. Membership

Re: Polly's gone, or at least she's hiding in 8.1.4

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
BUG report 19998 On 7/4/17 10:48 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: There's a fairly rude phrase one could use about that sort of polygon. But it would be a far, far better thing if that were sorted out to the state it was in 7.1.4. Richmond. On 7/4/17 9:31 pm, Colin Holgate via use-livecode

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
And, NO: this does NOT help at all: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=7=27672 Richmond. On 7/4/17 7:25 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Hmm . . . I've made myself a jaggy circle by setting the points of an irregular polygon to a sequence generated with a merry sine/cosine function .

Re: I need a "slider" in a circle

2017-07-04 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Here is a version that would work for a complete circle: global cw,ch,cx,cy,offx,offy on mousedown put the width of graphic "circle" / 2 into cw put the height of graphic "circle" / 2 into ch put the left of graphic "circle" + cw into cx put the top of graphic "circle" + ch into cy

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/04/2017 10:37 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Of course, once when has figured out all the potential issues and complexities which arise from such an addition, you then actually have to implement it. Ooo... I *do* hope that's a generic "you" and not a finger pointed my

Re: Polly's gone, or at least she's hiding in 8.1.4

2017-07-04 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Yes, I see. It seems that LiveCode 8 and 9 create a polygon with Points of -32768,-32768. A not very interest, far off dot. > On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > > > On 7/4/17 8:18 pm, Colin Holgate via use-livecode

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
Anniversary vote! Renew your vows! On 04/07/2017 18:20, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/04/2017 08:39 AM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: This is also at: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 Heh. I just went to add my vote to this and found that I had already

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
'Twas a pity when most dialects of English gave up the "Thou, thee, thy, thine" set of second person pronouns. wait 1 ticks Richmond. On 7/4/17 8:49 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/04/2017 10:37 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Of course, once when has figured out

Re: synonyms

2017-07-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
It was a generic 'you' and not you 'you' :) I think part of my brain decided on 'one' there but my fingers objected ('when' should have been 'one'). Indeed in this instance 'one' in both places probably would have been better, however I always feel like that sounds slightly pompous... Sent

Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Both venting and seeking advice. Actually submitting an app to iTunes Connect is not easy, to put it mildly. I am getting an error... The executable 'Payload/Augmented Earth.app/Augmented Earth' must be signed with the certificate that is contained in the provisioning profile. I have no idea

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
You choose a profile in Standalone Application Settings. There’s a danger of picking an old one. See discussions like this on how to remove out of date ones: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26732251/how-to-remove-provisioning-profiles-from-xcode It should have a certificate associated with

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Are you using an App Store Distribution profile? Was its certificate your Distribution one? > On Jul 4, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > wrote: > > Both venting and seeking advice. > > Actually submitting an app to iTunes Connect is not

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Colin, Yes and yes Do we need to sign the actual file after it is created? I thought that happened when we created to executable from LC. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > Are you using an App

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I created a new profile just for this - still get the same error. After that I tried manually codesigning, but then I got the same error again. Any other ideas? And thanks for taking the time on this - it is much appreciated. J Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Colin Holgate

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Okay. - I got it submitted :) I had revoked an older certificate to make sure I was using the right one, but that certificate was still in the key chain. Fingers crossed they like it on the first try. Sorry for my hidden curse word there - it was just one of those moments. J Sent from my

Re: Pinch and Zoom in Browser Widget

2017-07-04 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Oh… (sad face) it appears to be a feature of Safari on iOS Safari on desktop Chrome on Desktop. But I am unable to pinch zoom the same page (yes I have a track pad on my Macbook pro) a) in FireFox on Mac b) on Android/Chrome c) Browser widget in LC on either iOS app or Android. ouch..