Re: Book (If you're new to LiveCode...)

2017-09-18 Thread Mark Schonewille via use-livecode
Hi, At the end of this week, our office will close for 2 weeks. Any orders received before Wednesday 20th September will be processed and sent before we close. Once you have ordered Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner, keep an eye on your e-mail! You need to confirm your postal mail

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
"baked" into the app, not "backed"! On 18/09/2017 09:59, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: Hi Jacque, Thanks for helping. Check to be sure that the profile in standalone settings is the same one that XCode is using. How would that work? Surely the profile is backed into the app when

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, Thanks for helping. Check to be sure that the profile in standalone settings is the same one that XCode is using. How would that work? Surely the profile is backed into the app when the Standalone Builder builds the standalone? (I'm not building the app with Xcode, just using it

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Ben, If you can successfully install the standalone using Xode (by dragging it onto the "Applications" field of your device), but you cannot do the same using the "Test" button, then this is probably a bug in mergDeploy (which is used by the "Test" button. So I suggest you file a report.

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
I agree for the most part. At this point, my hope is that people will clean the slate and kick everyone currently in office to the curb. Won't happen of course. Honestly though, I don't see how ANY politician, no matter how well intention-ed can get through the process of attaining office

Re: How to debug a hard crash of a windows standalone nowadays?

2017-09-18 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Have you tried the new remote debugging feature? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On September 18, 2017 8:34:01 AM Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode wrote: Hi

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-18 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
You're right, the profile is embedded in the app. I was just wondering if Xcode was doing some extra manipulation. Probably not, but you might check to be sure there are no expired profiles in keychain. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: How to debug a hard crash of a windows standalone nowadays?

2017-09-18 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
jsut a shot in the dark.lol if you are hiding taskbar by any chancethere is a bug associated with that that gives a really hard crash. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:59 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Have you tried the new remote debugging

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Folks: Because livecode is so relevant for education, I suppose this is a reasonable discussion for the users list. So, I will add another 2 cents. One of the most interesting ideas I’ve heard recently, in education, is the idea that it’s very important to emphasize the “struggle” to learn. If

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-18 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/17/2017 05:46 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'd guess it's the 7000 lines. The autocomplete lookups may not be able to deal with that much text fast enough. Does it work for you with a tiny little script? How about if you type one letter at a time and count to five in

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Reading through that article, I get the sense that he believes that people are not educated or intellegent because the system of education is wholly responsible for failing to do so. Intellegent people often make this miscalculation, that they believe intellegence is something that can be

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Wow: Bill . . . you have put your point so very well: that should be engraved on stone and tattooed onto every teacher's head! Thanks so much. Richmond. On 9/18/17 7:07 pm, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: Folks: Because livecode is so relevant for education, I suppose this is a

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The system is sound. The politicians who only subscibe to the rule of law when it suits their cause, and not otherwise are the problem. And also people who keep voting for the politicians who demonstrate such a degree of irresponsibility are to blame. The actual system works wonderfully, so

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-18 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/18/2017 08:07 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: you're editing. Might be worth refactoring the SE if it's actually doing a lookup for every keystroke. sorry... I meant moomin... -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
One of my beefs with Miscrosoft is all the times they butt in and try to help me when I am trying to get something done. I liken their systems to the little brother who kept tagging along wanting to help, yanking on my pants leg, and all he really did was get in the way and force me to deal

How to debug a hard crash of a windows standalone nowadays?

2017-09-18 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode
Hi Folks, I have a windows standalone that has been moved from 6 to 8 crashing reliably (only the standalone). How do we debug situations like this nowadays? I vaguely recall there was a crash report external back in the day, but I do not remember. Any pointers? Cheers, Malte

Re: How to debug a hard crash of a windows standalone nowadays?

2017-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I generally embed debugging code so I can find out where the issue is. You can write info to a log file, a dialog, etc. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I have a windows standalone that has been moved

Re: read from file until a line begins with a certain word

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
How about read for x characters, put the last line in a buffer and remove it from the read text, process the read text, read the next block, prepend the buffer line. Bob S > On Sep 16, 2017, at 17:50 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi, > >

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-18 08:13, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode wrote: No worries, I always use TTF Courier New, so yes it is monospaced. Ugly? Maybe! But for me very readable, and installed almost everywhere. FWIW I think I fixed this first thing today: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5949

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi Scott. DP means Developer Preview. It's not meant for production environments. It's so we can test new feathres before release. I'd definitely use 8.1.5 oe earlier. Bob S > On Sep 17, 2017, at 21:20 , RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > Basically,

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 98

2017-09-18 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #98 here: https://goo.gl/XQvDRd This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around

Breakpoint

2017-09-18 Thread Jean-Jacques Wagner via use-livecode
Hallo Still working with on 6.7.7 but experiencing a lot of troubles with breakpoint, can’t set, have to activate before each run otherwise don’t trigger. Script debugging become a nightmare. I’ll never have seen such a bad behavior. Does anyone nows how to circumvent this missbehavior.

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks, Richmond! This brings me to another thought I’ve been having. I’m retired now, but still doing education projects as a hobby. What I would really love to be involved in is an interest group whose goal is to create and distribute innovative education applications in livecode. I know

Re: Breakpoint

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yes. First, clear all breakpoints from the Debug menu of the Script Editor. Next, in a script editor window, towards the bottom, there is a Breakpoints tab. If any breakpoints remain, delete them. Save your app, quit and relaunch LC. Breakpoints *should* trigger normally again. If that does

Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-18 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
I'm sure there must be an easy way I'm missing . he said in hope :-) I want a field to contain a single line of data - i.. no CRs. I've done the easy bit (a handler for returninfield). I can even do the moderate bit -  a 'pastekey' handler, and check for CRs in the clipboard - but that

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
If you have a mobile text field object, then have you looked at inputReturnKey? On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I'm sure there must be an easy way I'm missing . he said in hope :-) > > I want a field to contain a

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-18 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 19 Sep 2017, at 1:07 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > FWIW, the glx2 script editor aggregates the necessary information for > autocompletion when you load a new script. There's a negligible delay at > startup while it parses all the stacks in

SivaSiva iOS App Approved - Android Issues/AcceleratedRendering issues

2017-09-18 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
We are very happy to announce that Apple approved SivaSiva App V1 and it is now available at the app store. search for "SivaSiva" all one word. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/spiritual-workout/id1271260502?mt=8 But we still have problems with the Android version. you can download RC7 for

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Indeed: And I'm always teaching others BY making mistakes! Richmond. On 9/19/17 2:04 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Awesome! I'm always teaching others to make mistakes! Bob S On Sep 18, 2017, at 16:00 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

2017-09-18 Thread RunRevPlanet via use-livecode
No worries, I always use TTF Courier New, so yes it is monospaced. Ugly? Maybe! But for me very readable, and installed almost everywhere. -- Scott McDonald http://thelivecodelab.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: Jumping out of breakpoints and their propensity to multiply LC8.20dp1

2017-09-18 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
I’ll see if I can work out what’s up. If you have a recipe can you post to this bug report: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20421 > On 19 Sep 2017, at 11:14 am, James At The Hale via use-livecode >

Dash "Make DocSet" stack version 1.6. and non-Mac Dash readers

2017-09-18 Thread James Hale via use-livecode
The Dash "Make DocSet" stack has been updated to version 1.6. See the details below. Hopefully this will be the final update, although I see Monte has been modifying some doc formats. See below. I have also noticed that Dash like readers exist on other platforms. Some paid for, some free.

Jumping out of breakpoints and their propensity to multiply LC8.20dp1

2017-09-18 Thread James At The Hale via use-livecode
Just noting the recent post on triggers not triggering in 6.7 and all the other non triggering trigger posts and wanted to report an additional quirk with 8.2. While trying to follow the formatting of the documents array for my last project I was setting a breakpoint to activate at particular

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Awesome! I'm always teaching others to make mistakes! Bob S > On Sep 18, 2017, at 16:00 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Exactly. I always emphasize that the best way to learn is by making mistakes. > > ...or by trying to teach someone else... >

Re: Behaviors

2017-09-18 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
Sorry, I should have said “Use 'before menuPick' or 'after menuPick' instead of ‘on menuPick’. On Sep 18, 2017, at 5:21 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: Bob, Maybe the best way to do this is to use the before or

Re: Behaviors

2017-09-18 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
Bob, Maybe the best way to do this is to use the before or after control structure in the behavior, rather than the menuPick. before menuPick pItem # do common behavior stuff here end menuPick That leaves the menuPick handler unencumbered in the actual object. Devin On Sep 18, 2017, at

[OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
I learned this again, a few weeks ago, in the forum: After many developers explained to a newbie the same concept in many different ways, this person said: Yes, I understand... but when this person tried to apply these concepts in a stack, we learned that these explanations were not clear enough.

[OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
There are many critics about the dumbing down of education in many countries, but only in USA, critics could afford to publish and sell their ideas: https://www.amazon.com/Dumbing-Down-America-Nations-Brightest/dp/1618211668 Just imagine that in the country where I live, to get a paying work in

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

2017-09-18 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/18/2017 09:07 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: One of the most interesting ideas I’ve heard recently, in education, is the idea that it’s very important to emphasize the “struggle” to learn. If students can learn that the “struggle" to acquire knowledge and understanding is

Behaviors

2017-09-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. I've decided to start in on behaviors now as I have so much code that is effectively identical. So I took the code from a menu/button with a menuPick handler and put it in another button, then set the behavior of the first button to the long id of the second. I then set a breakpoint