Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Sadly, I have experienced this before with Open Source software. Devs > can be much less open to new ideas or ways of doing things. As a > result they lose a lot of their base, but if it costs them nothing > they can afford it. I suppose that could be said about many

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2017-10-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > I am really sorry to have started this thread Where else could we learned about the messageMessages global property and messageHandled message (useful for logging and debugging Livecode apps? This mail list, like our own life, allows us to focus on our immediate projects or

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Actually, since we weren't able to get there, we had to give them to the aliens who were running the CIA at the time, and they dropped them off. That way we can maintain the deception pretty convincingly. Bob S > On Oct 4, 2017, at 16:18 , Rick Harrison via use-livecode >

60 years of the Space Age

2017-10-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > I am really sorry to have started this thread Where else could we have learned about the messageMessages global property and messageHandled message (useful for logging and debugging Livecode apps? This mail list, like our own life, allows us to focus on our immediate

Re: 60 years of the Space Age

2017-10-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
And Gmail allowed to send my previous message without subject and no warnings... precisely in the day (October 4) where they announce that each of their products now have Artificial Intelligence Algorithms incorporated... :-o On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Alejandro Tejada

Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Richard Gaskin wrote: > The difference with open source is that if it's really holding you back > you can rally the resources to get it done yourself right now, something > that would be impossible with any proprietary code base. In my humble opinion, after 12 years it has to be

[OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Hi Ryan, I use Xara since many, many years ago. Their technical support is excellent and rarely (if ever) I had a problem with their application except a rare bug that I found, reported and they fixed. Recently, I am testing their online design application: https://cloud.ixara.com/ Everyone

60 years of the Space Age

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/04/2017 04:30 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Actually, since we weren't able to get there, we had to give them to the aliens who were running the CIA at the time, and they dropped them off. That way we can maintain the deception pretty convincingly. I am really sorry to have

Re: 60 years of the Space Age

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/04/2017 06:22 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: I am really sorry to have started this thread ah... I had a smiley thing after that but I must have used some old recycled electrons and they fell off the page. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"because dead programmers don't write good code." More to the point, Astronauts (c.f. end-users) usually don't know how to write code at all. Richmond. On 10/3/17 9:59 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: No, I am sure we put men on the moon. But we didn't stay there and there are no

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Why do I have a feeling that once a system constructed by humans reaches a certain level of complexity those humans are unable to predict how it will behave in certain circumstances. We humans have, largely got ourself in trouble by starting to think we can explain everything, and I have a

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"magical unicorns crapped the world into existence." But they did: where have you been recently? Just as LiveCode 8.1.6 just spontaneously appeared without Homo Africanus (HyperCard), Home Erectus (Metacard) and a lot of subsequent depilation. Richmond. On 10/3/17 10:06 pm, Bob Sneidar via

Re: Autocomplete toggle?

2017-10-04 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:32 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks. I wish it recorded sound, it would be helpful to say "now I'm typing a > D, look 3 words back for the insertion" but that's what I'll probably use. I am a bit behind on this

[OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
https://sk1project.net/ Maturing nicely. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Also for svg https://gravit.io/ - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode TinyIDE Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple

Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
thanks for this, been looking for a replacement to fireworks which would let me switch to linux full time. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:22 AM, AndyP via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Also for svg >

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> Richmond wrote: > > once a system constructed by humans reaches a certain level of complexity > those humans are unable to predict how it will behave in certain > circumstances. And sometimes we’re unable to explain WHY a system behaved as it did, which is increasingly common with certain AI

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
To which I will add as a side note, once we know everything, there will be no more opinions or opposing views. :-) Bob S > On Oct 4, 2017, at 09:12 , Jim Lambert via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Richmond wrote: >> >> once a system constructed by humans reaches

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Phil Davis via use-livecode
Except people will always want what they want. As I understand it, that drives disagreements far more than the absence/presence of knowledge. (James 4:1 ) Sorry, I couldn't resist... I just HAD to respond to your tongue-in-cheek comment... Guess

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Knowledge is not the only thing one can hold opinions about: anything subjective such as ethics or aesthetics . . . Richmond. On 10/4/17 8:45 pm, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote: Except people will always want what they want. As I understand it, that drives disagreements far more than the

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well, in that case I sincerely hope we never know everything. Although, how, without our finite brains/minds we would manage that escapes me entirely. Richmond. On 10/4/17 8:10 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: To which I will add as a side note, once we know everything, there will be

system user dialog data colliding

2017-10-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
I finally found the source of this oddness after a couple of years . . . On startup in development environment, there is a check that updates the main stack if it is not from today, using "save as". The name is to the effect of "mcp.171004a.livecode" This invariably triggers a live code message

Re: Autocomplete toggle?

2017-10-04 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
I use Movavi for screen capture and quick editing. It is inexpensive, and also has a very nice video format converter. http://m.movavi.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlZDa0qbX1gIViG5-Ch0R5gwwEAAYASAAEgL_wvD_BwE Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Oct 4, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Mark Talluto

[OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Include SVG-Edit and current versions of these editors: https://www.sitepoint.com/6-free-web-based-svg-editors-compared/ I just keep wondering why nobody have forked Inkscape and included the most requested feature: a plain simple palette that translate page coordinates from bottomleft to the

Duplicate Card

2017-10-04 Thread Camm via use-livecode
Hi , Is Duplicate card broke in 8.1.6 ? I get Duplicate card highlighted then when pressed the duplicate does not appear ? Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sadly, I have experienced this before with Open Source software. Devs can be much less open to new ideas or ways of doing things. As a result they lose a lot of their base, but if it costs them nothing they can afford it. Bob S > On Oct 4, 2017, at 13:30 , Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode

Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Al, Did you try GIMP? https://www.gimp.org Will it do what you want it to do with SVG files? Hope it helps! Rick > On Oct 4, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode > wrote: > > Include SVG-Edit and current versions of these editors: >

Re: [OT] Alternative to Inkscape

2017-10-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
After reading again Bug Reports about Inkscape page origin, I noticed that I was wrong. That Bug Report have existed for more than 12 years so... read by yourself: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/170049 https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/364036 Al On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:30

Re: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse

2017-10-04 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Lagi, The Apollo Astronauts left “Laser Reflectors” on the moon so that we could very accurately measure the distance between the Earth and the Moon. If you get the right equipment you too can do this experiment. The reflectors are still there on the moon right where they left them.

Re: LiveCode documentation set now available for Dash compatible readers

2017-10-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, James Hale via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > There is now a documentation set (currently at LC 9 dp 9) available in the > "user-contribution" category for Dash compatible readers. > Thanks James! -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps