Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Actually the use case was different. More of a generic way with nice syntax to call remote functions. This is easier now with dispatch but still not quite as elegant IMO as using virtual properties of models. Let’s take an example that I currently use. Note that the rational here is to avoid

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
True - I’d rather be first-class than complete anyway. And yes thanks for suggested way around incompleteness. I still suffered culture shock. The use-case I had was to replace send syntax with the more elegant set the ... of object to syntax. I found myself wanting a bit more power ... Power is

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-04-03 11:35, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote: True - I’d rather be first-class than complete anyway. To use a more concrete analogy - all British citizens are (since suffrage!) 'first-class' in the sense they can vote, but are not 'complete' in the sense that there exist things

Re: do. command. safety. ?

2018-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-04-02 07:06, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: You were just thinking constructively. You look for outcomes that benefit people. That's a good perspective to have. Most devs do. Maliciously breaking things requires a different mindset. Or just recast the problem as an entirely

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-04-03 10:28, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote: Arrays as first class citizens? Give them a passport! Arrays have rights too! Need to check if they can be passed as parameters in setprop handlers - as in “set the beautiful_Colour [spellingArray] of my card to light-grey” Heh -

[ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Dear list members, LiveCode 9.0.0 is out, read all about it here: https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?u=8404b344b09103bf489dd8a9a=c574bcb9b3 Have fun! The LiveCode Team -- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: Android Native Button

2018-04-03 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
Ah yes, we need to apply this https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6441/files to the android button as well On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:51 AM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Looking at the code for the android field, it is probably a bug. In that > code

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-04-02 21:28, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I found this: *** Additionally the into clause has been added to all array set set operations allowing commands such as: intersect tLeft with tRight into tResult The operation of the commands is the same as the non-into form except

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
For what it's worth, I don't have a gazebo in my back yard either. I suppose that means I'm either a raven or a writing desk. I believe there's actually an answer to that riddle but I can't remember what it is. I think I saw it in the Annotated Alice. Back when we walked to school uphill both

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 123

2018-04-03 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #123 here: https://goo.gl/EfhsRf This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around

Re: Installation failed

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hmmm... interesting point. The Parallels VM shares the Mac desktop. It does so, believe it or not, through a custom network adapter. So even though it's on my desktop, the VM thinks it's on a network share. Bob S > On Apr 2, 2018, at 19:04 , Trevor DeVore via use-livecode >

Re: Installation failed

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Couldn't extract payload to file. Internal error. I'll contact support. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2018, at 07:44 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Now it gets most of the way through and then backs out and says can't install > payload or some such thing. >

App Submission Errors

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Using LC 8.1.9, Max OS 10.12.6, XCode 9.2 I created my app for iOS. I followed the instructions to create a ipa file. When I upload the ipa with version 3.7 of Application Loader, I get these errors: ERROR ITMS-90032: "Invalid Image Path - No image found at the path referenced under key

Re: Installation failed

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Now it gets most of the way through and then backs out and says can't install payload or some such thing. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2018, at 07:37 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hmmm... interesting point. The Parallels VM shares the Mac desktop. It does

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Panos, > Am 03.04.2018 um 15:01 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > : > > Dear list members, > > LiveCode 9.0.0 is out, read all about it here: > https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?u=8404b344b09103bf489dd8a9a=c574bcb9b3 cool, thanks! But the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Ah sorry about that! I'll file a bug report so as to make sure this is resolved in the next release :) For reference, this is what it is supposed to say: - # Additional forms of create command Create in now works correctly You can now create in as well as in -

TOOLS ROUNDUP! TOOLS ROUNDUP!

2018-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm still thinking about sessions for LCG. One of the suggestions I had seen was an intro on tool x. How about a tools roundup? Names and URL's for your favorite LC tools go in this thread, please. More is better so I don't leave anyone out. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and

Re: Installation failed

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Copying the installer from the desktop to the C:\Software folder then running the installer did the trick. Sometimes I cannot see the forest for the trees. It goes to my view that everything that happens with a computer is to create the illusion of something, but it has no substance itself. In

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I assume with the release of LC 9.0.0 that there will not be a release version of LC 8.2.0? Is this the case? It makes sense, but I am just looking to confirm whether this has been confirmed by the Mothership. ___ use-livecode mailing list

RE: Android Native Button

2018-04-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Thanks Ali, I submitted bug https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21141 Also in the QCC is that I can't change the font of text size. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode

Re: TOOLS ROUNDUP! TOOLS ROUNDUP!

2018-04-03 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/3/2018 10:33 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > I'm still thinking about sessions for LCG. One of the suggestions I had > seen was an intro on tool x. How about a tools roundup? Names and URL's > for your favorite LC tools go in this thread, please. More is better so I > don't

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
David Bovill wrote: > The use-case I had was to replace send syntax with the more elegant > set the ... of object to syntax. While the getProp and setProp handlers would seem to lend themselves to a lot of useful object binding opportunities, they require caution: they're treated by the

Re: App Submission Errors

2018-04-03 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Panos, Thank you for the tip! Actually, I had all the icons in place, but the icon folder was moved. Now I am left with this feeling of stupidity and embarrassment. :) -Dan Hi Dan, You have to include *all* the required icons for

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
When I was first exposed to arrays in Foxpro, I saw them as ordered blocks of memory which could be addressed using integer values. Back then an array in memory resided in a contiguous block of memory for efficiency, and were 2 dimensional, so a reference to an element was myArray(x,y) (if

RE: Android Native Button

2018-04-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Yes, I enumerated the font names on the device and used the "Droid Serif" font. QCC report 21141 submitted. Thanks Brian Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: Brian Milby [mailto:br...@milby7.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Also, the LC9 splash dialog/pane/whatever does not go away either by clicking on it or after the menu and tool palette appears. Anyone else seeing this? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Installation failed

2018-04-03 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
I had installation success in Win/Parallels downloading with the web browser IN Windows. Peter > On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Couldn't extract payload to file. Internal error. I'll contact support. > > Bob S > > >>

LC on ChromeBooks

2018-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Has anyone tried to run an LC app on a ChromeBook? Don't they run Android apps now? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: App Submission Errors

2018-04-03 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Dan, You have to include *all* the required icons for your app. Just go to the iOS standalone settings and make sure you add a .png of the specified dimensions (shown in the tooltip) for each icon field. Best, Panos -- On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode <

Re: TOOLS ROUNDUP! TOOLS ROUNDUP!

2018-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Hey, Paul, this account works fine: mikeker...@roadrunner.com (but so do any of the other addresses that any of you have for me, since I have...a couple...) If you or someone else has one of my other addresses, those work as well. One caveat for anyone who jumps in on this: A tool doesn't do

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
@Paul RE the splash screen not going away, I have occasionally seen it in other LC versions on Windows only in the past. If I remember correctly, it was fixed once I deleted the LC Prefs. RE 8.2.0, there will be no other LC 8.2 releases, since all the features and bug fixes of LC 8.2.x are now

Re: Installation failed

2018-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I've also run into that when I try to install for all users instead of just me when I'm installing in parallels On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Couldn't extract payload to file. Internal error. I'll contact support. > > Bob

Re: Installation failed

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Actually I discovered I was running out of disk space in my VM. DOH! The installer doesn't really spell that out when it fails, so I feel somewhat vindicated. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2018, at 08:43 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > I've also run into

Re: do. command. safety. ?

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
When I first started writing things in Hypercard, I would take my creations to the Principle of the High School where I worked and he would set about trying to break my code. He was good at it. He told me that if it occured to him to try and break it, eventually it would occur to someone else.

memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. I have a function that works in Mac but not in Windows. Here is the relevant code: function arrayToMemoryDB aArrayData put the keys of aArrayData into tArrayKeys sort tArrayKeys numeric ascending put ":MEMORY:" into tDBFile try put revOpenDatabase("sqlite", tDBFile)

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
And, what about the much vaunted 8.1.10 which is supposed to have several bug-fixes that I am hanging around for? Richmond. On 3/4/2018 6:20 pm, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I assume with the release of LC 9.0.0 that there will not be a release version of LC 8.2.0? Is this the case? It

Re: LiveCode code licences

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I suspect this would have been a better question to submit to supp...@livecode.com. That said, to my knowledge no distributed apps (standalones) are going to stop working. You will not be able to develop in LC Indy however. It won't even launch. You *can* open these stacks in the Community

Re: memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Ah! Curoius it works with Mac. I'll give that a try. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:12 , Mike Bonner via use-livecode > wrote: > > try changing :MEMORY: to :memory: > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < >

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I had this problem with RC1. I had to delete my lc prefs file. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Also, the LC9 splash dialog/pane/whatever does not go away either by > clicking on it or after the menu and tool palette

Re: TOOLS ROUNDUP! TOOLS ROUNDUP!

2018-04-03 Thread Marc Siskin via use-livecode
Paul, I would like it. Maybe you can upload the stack to Revonline too. Thank you, Marc On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > wrote: On 4/3/2018 10:33 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: I'm still

Audio recording fails when trying to record video

2018-04-03 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
I am currently trying to help one of my students with setting up a camera control to record video. We have been able to set up a camera control to record video, but no sound is recorded. According to the dictionary an audioDevice ID should be set in order to record sound as well as video. Using

LiveCode code licences

2018-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I am vaguely concerned as my Indy licence is due to expire on 31 May of this year. Does this mean that: 1. On 1 June all my Indy installs will suddenly go "phut" and stop working? 2. On 1 June all the Indy installs I have currently installed will suddenly "degenerate" into Community

Re: TOOLS ROUNDUP! TOOLS ROUNDUP!

2018-04-03 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Mike & Marc, You can find the tool at http://www.researchware.com/livecode/rwScriptReporter141016.livecode It is not fancy, nor elegant, but I have found I use it regularly to create a text file of the script of our 100K+ line LiveCode app and often have the text file of the scripts open to

Re: memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi all. I have a function that works in Mac but not in Windows. Here is the relevant code: function arrayToMemoryDB aArrayData put the keys of aArrayData into tArrayKeys sort tArrayKeys numeric ascending put ":MEMORY:" into tDBFile try put

Re: memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
try changing :MEMORY: to :memory: On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi all. I have a function that works in Mac but not in Windows. Here is > the relevant code: > > function arrayToMemoryDB aArrayData >put the keys of

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Congratulations! Now let's "Heigh-Ho" over to my Linux box and see if we can . . . Love, Richmond. On 3/4/2018 4:01 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Dear list members, LiveCode 9.0.0 is out, read all about it here:

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thanks, Panos. Very exciting news. I've noticed in recent weeks that download speeds from downloads.livecode.com have become very slow. Builds that used to take just a couple minutes now take hours. My ISP isn't the best, but I haven't seen slow downloads like that anywhere else. Is

Re: LiveCode code licences

2018-04-03 Thread kevin via use-livecode
Yes your Indy license will expire. Given what it costs to maintain LiveCode we need revenue annually. I'm not sure what offer you are referring to but there is no such deal available to anyone.  null ___ use-livecode mailing list

Odd Name Resolution

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. I have noticed that if I reference an object on a different card while that card is not the current card, I have to use the full path to that object. For instance: put the hilited of button "btndbprimary" of card "Database Setup" this will return true if card "Database Setup" is the

Re: memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
You would be correct. :-) I posted a little while ago that I wrote some code to gather certain properties of all the objects on a card into an array. Converting that array into a memory database allows me to find all the objects that are for example, visible and groups and then get the top,

Re: Odd Name Resolution

2018-04-03 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
if you don't specify the stack it uses the "defaultstack" ... so is it returning false even if the button is not there? On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi all. > > I have noticed that if I reference an object on a different

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
Besides having most people busy on getting 9.0 out, it made sense to delay 8.1.10 a little more so we could get the Xcode/iOS update in there. It's next on the agenda! On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:38 PM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > And, what about the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0

2018-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Lovely! Richmond. On 3/4/2018 11:17 pm, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: Besides having most people busy on getting 9.0 out, it made sense to delay 8.1.10 a little more so we could get the Xcode/iOS update in there. It's next on the agenda! On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:38 PM Richmond Mathewson

Re: memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:38 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> What is the goal? >> >> Arrays and memory-based SQLite are both in-memory stores with hashed >> access. I'm guessing there's something more to this use-case than my >> limited thinking currently grasps. > > You would

Re: memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Yes please! ###I hear ya'. I find myself tempted way more than I have time for to write an xquery-like library for working with arrays. We could sure use one.### On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Bob Sneidar wrote: > >

Re: Odd Name Resolution

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The button is there. It returns false. The checkbox is checked. As I said it works if the card is the currentCard. The only stack open at the time IS the Forms Generator stack, so it has to be the defaultStack. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2018, at 13:12 , Tom Glod via use-livecode >

v9 experience grinds to a halt. non-functioning breakpoints.

2018-04-03 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Hi peeps, can anyone confirm with me that breakpoints don't work at all in the new LC 9? breakpoint command or line toggle both are ignored. Is there a new toggle somewhere? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: Odd Name Resolution

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I will try to throw one together. Note that it isn't returning an error, which it would if the defaultStack was something else, and the button or card did not exist. It's not doing that. It's returning a false value. Bob S > On Apr 3, 2018, at 15:32 , Tom Glod via use-livecode >

Re: Odd Name Resolution

2018-04-03 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
hmmmthats really weird .. maybe one of the IDE stacks is being considered as the defaultstack i don't know why else the ref would not work it really is weird you should report itcan you post a stack? On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:24 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <

Re: memory databases fail in Windows

2018-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Enjoy! If you make it better post updates. Eventually we can put it into the library we all share. I use it for querying for the min top and left, and the max bottom and right of all visible objects on a card. But it can be used In a lot of ways. You could store data in an array in a stack

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Yes - thanks for pointing that out. So far I've found the behaviour of lockmessages to be actually useful rather than an issue with getprop/setprop - seems well designed to me. The place where the syntax really shines is with functions calls rather than commands - dispatch is quite natural for

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Arrays as first class citizens? Give them a passport! Arrays have rights too! Need to check if they can be passed as parameters in setprop handlers - as in “set the beautiful_Colour [spellingArray] of my card to light-grey” Last time I checked not all first class citizens were equal. On Tue, 3

Re: v9 experience grinds to a halt. non-functioning breakpoints.

2018-04-03 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Did a quick test on Mac/Win10 and both worked as expected on a new test stack. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:22 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi peeps, can anyone confirm with me that breakpoints don't work at all in > the new LC 9? > > breakpoint command or

Re: v9 experience grinds to a halt. non-functioning breakpoints.

2018-04-03 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 04/03/2018 06:50 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Did a quick test on Mac/Win10 and both worked as expected on a new test stack. Ditto here on linux. Whew... had me worried for a sec. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___

Re: v9 experience grinds to a halt. non-functioning breakpoints.

2018-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Maybe script debug mode is turned off? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On April 3, 2018 8:52:32 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Did a quick test on Mac/Win10 and both worked as

Re: v9 experience grinds to a halt. non-functioning breakpoints.

2018-04-03 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 4 Apr 2018, at 1:10 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Maybe script debug mode is turned off? There are two other less obvious reasons that the breakpoints might be being ignored: - the breakpoint is in a moveStack or resizeStack handler.

LC on TIOBE

2018-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
LiveCode is on the TIOBE Index again for the third consecutive month: https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ I don't recall seeing this three months in a row before. This bodes well for platform growth. While it hasn't yet moved up to the top 50, with the hundreds of languages out there being

Re: Guessing game

2018-04-03 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 04/03/2018 12:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: One could imagine a similar thing being added to the arithmetic commands:   add tLeft to tRight into tResult Would do nothing different from:   put tLeft + tRight into tResult This would just be a different way of expressing

Re: v9 experience grinds to a halt. non-functioning breakpoints.

2018-04-03 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
cool.sorry for the loud alarm.but that was a show stopper for me. great job monte and markand whole team .the engine is rock solid! On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:15 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > On 4 Apr 2018, at 1:10 pm, J.

Re: LC on TIOBE

2018-04-03 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Awesome..one day it will be the most used one in the world mainly because of childrenbut also because people will choose to do less work.. :D On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > LiveCode is on the TIOBE Index