Re: DataGrid image display woes

2018-08-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Are you missing an “of me” in the code that sets the image data? -- Trevor DeVore On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 5:38 AM FlexibleLearning.com via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Okay, I have a datagrid Form with a template to display an image and 4 > fields. > > The fields

RE: DataGrid image display woes

2018-08-04 Thread FlexibleLearning.com via use-livecode
I recently wrote... > Okay, I have a datagrid Form with a template to display an image and 4 fields. > > The fields display the correct data for each line/record, but the unique image > for each line/record is not being correctly displayed. > > If the dataGrid height can show all records, the

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 19:19, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: This caught my attention. The increased security is great, and I've heard it said before, but would love to hear the reasons that make it more secure than lower level code. That way I'd have a knowledgeable reason to be smug. It is

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 20:06, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: LOL. Well, OK. But by exposing *just* the mobileXXX function at the scripting level, the onus is no longer on the developer to have to script the utility function for each application. You have the opportunity at this point to expose a

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 11:23 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: However, over time I'd suggest we look at it sitting in a mobile-permissions script library. Given the dynamic nature of handler dispatch in LC, there's all kinds of things we can do to make it really easy to adapt for particular

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 20:41, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 08/04/2018 11:23 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: However, over time I'd suggest we look at it sitting in a mobile-permissions script library. Given the dynamic nature of handler dispatch in LC, there's all kinds of things

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I did tinker with accleratedRendering when the problem first appeared. I turned it off before the move command and back on afterward, but it didn't help. I also changed the time so that the move was slower, but that didn't work either. Panos seems to have identified the reason for the failure

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > Yes - so come up with LCS handlers which do that, share them, let's > work together to make them as efficient in LCS as possible and then > see what we can do in the engine to improve their performance (which > I'm guessing is as much the purpose for the proposition as

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Plugins should probably be de-scriptified for distribution for this reason. A similar argument could be made for some IDE library code too. I have to wonder if there is any performance impact to the number of stacks the IDE has to deal with now that so much is scriptified. (The list of stacks

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 20:37, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 08/04/2018 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Basically these lower-level platform specific operations can be used to create a mobile handler script library, which would be a script-library in the open source

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread Randy Hengst via use-livecode
Did you leave the controls on dynamic? I found leaving them at static helped. be well, randy www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Aug 4, 2018, at 3:00 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I did tinker with accleratedRendering when the problem first appeared. I > turned it off

Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form question

2018-08-04 Thread zryip theSlug via use-livecode
Dear Douglas, Thanks for your interesting feedback about your attempt to use DGH for the first time, with creating a datagrid form. All the properties for customizing the datagrid apart, I've created the form template area (the way to custom the content of a row with controls such as image,

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 20:15, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: So maybe what is really needed is a split of the revcommonlibrary into 3 separate ones: revdesktoplibrary, revmobilelibrary, and revcommonlibrary. Then utility functions that are easily written in LCS could be placed in the appropriate

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Basically these lower-level platform specific operations can be used to create a mobile handler script library, which would be a script-library in the open source repository - which can contain the cross-platform 'mobile'

Re: Data Persistence

2018-08-04 Thread John McKenzie via use-livecode
A little less busy now so I can look at my app some more. As you mat recall I was asking about data persistence. Thank you to the additional people who welcomed me. I contrast this with the time I asked a question on Usenet about a scripting language I was learning and the first reply told me

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 21:00, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: Yes - so come up with LCS handlers which do that, share them, let's work together to make them as efficient in LCS as possible and then see what we can do in the engine to improve their performance (which I'm

Re: LCB - Text entry/edit in a widget

2018-08-04 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
There is still some work needed to be done in order for widgets to get keyboard focus and handle key events. A much simpler and available alternative though is to create and delete a field on top of the widget as required. > On 5 Aug 2018, at 2:08 am, pink via use-livecode > wrote: > > What

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:14 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/04/2018 11:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: > > Remember that this isn't a unique problem to LiveCode - script only stacks >> (particularly how we've grown to use them) are

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-05 01:14, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: I do realize that. But now that we've opened that can of worms I don't think we can just go on ignoring it. And the difference between LC script-only stacks and C source files is that you don't get to distribute a single compiled object in

Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

2018-08-04 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Thank you for your service, Mr. slug. I love your revolutionary spirit, and thank you for your contributions, priceless on this list. I’m blown away. On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 10:09 zryip theSlug via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dear Swami, > > Thanks for your purchase.

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 21:00, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Plugins should probably be de-scriptified for distribution for this reason. A similar argument could be made for some IDE library code too. I have to wonder if there is any performance impact to the number of stacks the IDE has to

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/4/18 12:41 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Can you immediately see the error? Who, me? LOL. Well, I did find the line that was different. Brian and others who can read this stuff did better. But I did get the gist of your post and feel sufficiently smug now. -- Jacqueline

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 21:51, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: one don't even realize - but find out pretty quickly about then their That should be 'when they' - not then their. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can

Re: Data Persistence

2018-08-04 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Putting text into a field pro-grammatically doesn't fire the openfield and closefield handlers so yes, you'd need to add code to your button. You can either write the code directly, or you can use send (or dispatch) and have the field do it.. IE send "closefield" to field "whateverfield"... But

Re: Data Persistence

2018-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/4/18 2:27 PM, John McKenzie via use-livecode wrote: Thank you to the additional people who welcomed me. I contrast this with the time I asked a question on Usenet about a scripting language I was learning and the first reply told me I was awful (true, which is why I was asking questions)

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 5 Aug 2018, at 5:00 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I don't quite know why my stack ran okay on Monte's phone, and my > stripped-down test with the same code ran okay in the simulator, but my real > stack failed. Weird. When I said it worked ok here I should have

datagrid scrolling question

2018-08-04 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
I sent a badly constructed message with this content (more or less) a few days ago. I am re-posting it in the hope that anyone who tried to decipher those two messages will give this another consideration. So pardon the repeat, but I'm quite sure someone from this group can lend me a hand on

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 11:55 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Remember that this isn't a unique problem to LiveCode - script only stacks (particularly how we've grown to use them) are akin to C source files / projects (mainly because that is abstractly what they are / I do realize that.

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Here is code that only uses LCS to accomplish the goal (only returning the keys where they exist in both arrays but the values are different). This is made to be similar to the way the existing functions work (with the option to mutate). command valueDiff @pDestinationA, @pLeftA, pRightA

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 09:36 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2018-08-04 18:25, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Heh - well your pseudo-code just essentially made my point for me - why does any of that need to be in the engine, if the engine provides the underlying wrappers around

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I guess I'll have to admit I had to do the line-by-line to see it, but once I did I realized what the problem was. Pointers and reference counting is one thing that I still really need to think about when looking at lower level code. That is one thing that really does make LCS nice. LCB too for

Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form

2018-08-04 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
The more you understand a task, the more versatile and appropriate any given tool becomes. I think the biggest struggle for me is finding examples which are "close" to my own goal. I have no problem reverse engineering code... I've done it for a very long time. But unless the outcome

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 21:00, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: Yes - so come up with LCS handlers which do that, share them, let's work together to make them as efficient in LCS as possible and then see what we can do in the engine to improve their performance (which I'm

Re: datagrid scrolling question

2018-08-04 Thread James At The Hale via use-livecode
I am a little lost here as to why this is a DG question as such. Certainly being able to dynamically fill data within a row is a great UI feature when the user is directly interacting with a row. But it seems you wish to completely fill particular values in all the rows from outside the DG. In

Re: DataGrid image display woes

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Wow, and Trevor knew right away... pretty impressive! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/04/2018 09:36 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: > >> On 2018-08-04 18:25, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: >> > > Heh - well your pseudo-code just essentially made my point

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 21:20, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 8/4/18 12:41 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Can you immediately see the error? Who, me? LOL. Well, I did find the line that was different. Brian and others who can read this stuff did better. But I did get the gist of

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/4/18 5:11 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: So I guess ensuring it is positioned correctly for the device before the first move and the hide move hides the whole thing would be a good place to start. I saw that, just fixed it today. This stack was made 6 years ago before we had

Re: datagrid scrolling question

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
My question is why use the button? Loop through the data in the grid and make the tsnet call manually for each line. If the button is calling a script outside of the DG, then you can use the same call. Then you don’t have to do any of those things to figure out the name of the row group. On Aug

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I did leave the group set to dynamic, actually. When I'm done tinkering with rotation adjustments I'll see if that helps. Thanks. On 8/4/18 4:06 PM, Randy Hengst via use-livecode wrote: Did you leave the controls on dynamic? I found leaving them at static helped. be well, randy

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 08:57 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On a related note, I get the feeling I might have irked Mr Wieder the other day with regards the android permission thing - that wasn't my No, not irked, and sorry if I gave that impression. My point was simply that the way I

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > In general coding things in C++ in the engine should be strictly > reserved for things where it is *absolutely* required - and in this > case, I don't see an absolute requirement in this case (yet!). > > This would be fundamental operations, and the interconnection with

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
This caught my attention. The increased security is great, and I've heard it said before, but would love to hear the reasons that make it more secure than lower level code. That way I'd have a knowledgeable reason to be smug. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive

Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form question

2018-08-04 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
I concur with Brahmanathaswami that, in particular, datagrid forms (I haven't worked with tables (yet)) are very finicky with regard to scrolling.  I still would greatly appreciate some help with a recently submitted message to this group, Subject: datagrid form question Once you play around

LCB - Text entry/edit in a widget

2018-08-04 Thread pink via use-livecode
What I would like to make is a widget that essentially functions as a multi field form. I know how to add text to a widget, but how can I make editable by the user? Essentially, how can I create one or more "fields" in a widget? - --- Greg (pink) Miller mad, pink and dangerous to code --

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 18:37, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: @Mark, I wasn't necessarily suggesting that it belonged in the engine, but pointing out why I would look at the code. :) Understanding how the engine actually operates is important, because it can help to design the LCS implementation

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread Randy Hengst via use-livecode
Sorry I’m a bit late to this strand, but yes, I’ve seen what you’re describing Jacque. I’ve seen it in the simulator and when loaded on the iPad. Have you tried turning off acceleratedRendering and setting to static? As I shared earlier with the list, the problem I’m seeing includes slowdowns

Re: A poor man's app updater

2018-08-04 Thread Kee Nethery via use-livecode
For sure don’t try to write updates to Applications on macOS, that requires permissions. Far better to treat them as app data and store in same place preferences get stored. Kee Nethery > On Aug 3, 2018, at 5:29 PM, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode > wrote: > > So, to store and access LC

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 18:25, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 08/04/2018 08:57 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On a related note, I get the feeling I might have irked Mr Wieder the other day with regards the android permission thing - that wasn't my No, not irked, and sorry if I

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2018-08-04 04:00, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: > >> Other than the fact that coding is fun :) >> > > Yes - but coding in LCS is much more fun, quicker (for me, anyway - and > I've

Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

2018-08-04 Thread zryip theSlug via use-livecode
Dear Swami, Thanks for your purchase. Yes I do have a real name and I do have a good reason to not share it publicly. When I came with the personnal challenge 8 years ago to create a commercial plugin, I was an employee and as a developper, my employment contract was containing a clause not

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 18:33, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Adding more such commands to operate on values instead of just keys would be handy, but not at all necessary. There are more pressing concerns that only the engine team can implement, and scripting in LiveCode is something every

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This one's not at all hard to write, just floated the idea to see if > others saw it suitable to add to the "convenience" functions already in the > language, such as: > > @Richard, What

DataGrid image display woes

2018-08-04 Thread FlexibleLearning.com via use-livecode
Okay, I have a datagrid Form with a template to display an image and 4 fields. The fields display the correct data for each line/record, but the unique image for each line/record is not being correctly displayed. If the dataGrid height can show all records, the image for the last record is

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-08-04 04:00, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Other than the fact that coding is fun :) Yes - but coding in LCS is much more fun, quicker (for me, anyway - and I've been writing C/C++ for nigh-on 30 years) - more importantly it is also MUCH MUCH more secure. Additionally, it is

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
Just to throw it out there I still want to add `each` to filter one day. So in this case I think it would be: filter keys of tArray1 with expression \ each is among the keys of tArray2 and \ tArray1[each] is not tArray2[each] > On 5 Aug 2018, at 11:23 am, Brian Milby via

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 07:11 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: I think Mark's code had a typo (left returned too many keys), but even when corrected it takes half the time as a pure LCS solution. Here's my modification: Quite right. Good catch. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: datagrid scrolling question

2018-08-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I was thinking the same thing. I think the critical distinction is that datagrids are primarily display mechanisms, not really intended to be read directly. It's much easier to parse the original input data than to try to traverse the grid itself, which uses some tricks to appear as a

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 04:45 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: The other place this could come to bear is making the S/B (or some variant there-of) not only work to produce an application, but also a 'component/extension' - i.e. a distributable 'compiled' (in some sense) form of a collection

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I think Mark's code had a typo (left returned too many keys), but even when corrected it takes half the time as a pure LCS solution. Here's my modification: function bwmValueDiff pLeft, pRight local tResult intersect pLeft with pRight into tResult["1"] repeat for each key tKey in

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I have not been able to locate the earlier conversation on pass by reference vice value. I did a quick test and it took 100,000 loops to be able to get a difference that was obvious. My test was to construct simple functions that took 1 to 3 parameters. 3 functions used all pass by value, 3

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/04/2018 12:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 8/4/18 12:41 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Can you immediately see the error? Who, me? LOL. Well, I did find the line that was different. Brian and others who can read this stuff did better. But I did get the

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-04 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 5 Aug 2018, at 11:59 am, Monte Goulding via use-livecode > wrote: > > Just to throw it out there I still want to add `each` to filter one day. So > in this case I think it would be: > > filter keys of tArray1 with expression \ > each is among the keys of tArray2 and \ >

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
This seems to work fine here testing on a device > On 4 Aug 2018, at 2:20 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I jumped the gun and sent a download link to both of you. But you're hours > ahead of him so you have time to intercept. :) > > On 8/3/18 10:25 PM, Monte Goulding via

Re: Move command on iOS

2018-08-04 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello all, I have added a comment to the bug report. Best, Panos -- On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This seems to work fine here testing on a device > > > On 4 Aug 2018, at 2:20 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < >