Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
Oh. That looks hard. I don't even know how to take control of the 0x80 interrupt. However, here are some ideas for alternatives. Virtual Parallels has Coherence; Virtual Box has Seamless Mode; VMware has Unity. (I don't use these, so check out what I say.) The capability is roughly the same.

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/9/19 2:03 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote: I just use macWrap32. Oh. Wait. There isn't one. :) Write one for us. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

LC and Hypercard

2019-10-09 Thread Meitnik via use-livecode
For a while now, whenever I try to open a .hc or .stk or .Stak or .STACK file, LC just bombs HARD Has Hypercard conversion into LC gone?? Missing the magic steps how to? Thanks ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

.rev files going back to 2001/2002 fails to open

2019-10-09 Thread Meitnik via use-livecode
open, crash, boom…logs shortly…so am hoping 10 yr old .rev stacks can be worked with??!! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: LC and Hypercard

2019-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The inability to open HC stacks disappeared with LC 7. You can still open them in LC 6, save the stack, and then work with it in later versions. I'm not sure what we'll do in Catalina when LC 6 won't run any more. I also sometimes use Chubby Bunny to emulate OS 9 and look at HC stacks there,

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 10/9/19 11:46 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: On 10/9/2019 12:29 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: It may be too late for you, but last week I got an email from the company that makes my accounting software warning customers not to upgrade to Catalina. They said they've

Re: Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-09 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Yes Sean, that looks good! Already when I see the table, I’m blind typing, trying the page up/down keys on the keyboard, resizing the window while it is loading, trying to stress it… Peter > On Oct 8, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'll say that is a good job

Re: Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-09 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
@Sean Ok i have to agree. It is looking very professional. and maybe you are right. In this way that i think that for employees of a company this is good to work with. Even the loading times, i acknowledge in that case it is workable. For an average unknown visitor or possible customer who

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
To be honest, i tried revigniter and i'm convinced it is good and working for some. But somehow i can't get my head around it unfortunately. I'm also not using lc server, i stopped it, too less examples. So for now i'm replicating my android app as webapp using html and php as there are

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Jjs wrote: > I'm also not using lc server, i stopped it, too less examples. What functionality or topics would you like to see examples on? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
For example, how globals work between html pages like SESSIONS variables do in PHP. Or how values from buttons are picked up. I'm not unwilling to use it, but most servers already have php installed and therefore it is easier to use might one need to move to another server. The more when it is

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
> On 9. Oct 2019, at 14:43, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > I remember reading about session management, and I believe it was in the > Server Guide. Do any of you have a copy? That would save me from poking > around through the old builds until I find it. > > Once we have it

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Now I'm a little peeved. Richard said "He's one of about three people who keep going back to the Kickstarter list as some form of eternal damnation against the team, " Forget about the kickstarter - I will say it one more time There was crowd funding for a new Sqlite library with a

Re: De-Combine: stupid question number 4732

2019-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: So: I have a socking-great multidimensional array that I display in a table field by using combine as in: combine myGUFF using return and tab put myGUFF into field "completeGUFF" but then I realise I want to go on working with my array "myGUFF" but as it has been turned

Re: De-Combine: stupid question number 4732

2019-10-09 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
I wrote and use this. Is it any use to you?: function splitTable pData, pDel set the itemdel to pDel repeat with rNum = 1 to the number of lines in pData put item 2 to 50 of line 1 of pData into tListA[item 1 of pData] delete line 1 of pData end repeat return tListA end

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Lagi Pittas wrote: > I did absorb that - nearly 3 years ago - QED. It's three years more recent than the old list you keep raising. > My major itch is the crowdfunding SPECIFICALLY for Sqlite Thank you! Specifics are the only way things can become actionable. What needs to be done with

De-Combine: stupid question number 4732

2019-10-09 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
So: I have a socking-great multidimensional array that I display in a table field by using combine as in: combine myGUFF using return and tab put myGUFF into field "completeGUFF" but then I realise I want to go on working with my array "myGUFF" but as it has been turned into some sort of

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Dear Richard, I did absorb that - nearly 3 years ago - QED. My major itch is the crowdfunding SPECIFICALLY for Sqlite , with a manual and all that. I have gone round and round in this, NOT as often as I should, but only when a thread gets my back up. By the way I have 4 drafts I haven't sent

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Jjs wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: >> What functionality or topics would you like to see examples on? > > For example, how globals work between html pages like SESSIONS > variables do in PHP. It's quite similar to PHP IIRC, but I just went to look that up in the Server Guide and made an

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi Richard, I don't want to get into a Slanging match and I would never make it personal. but we were never even given a basic system to enhance - I Quote "Finally, remember, that this will all be open source code, built and included in the community edition – you will be able to take it, adapt

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
I'm less than convinced by the crowdfunding ideas that have been mentioned so far. But there is something that is important to understand: 1. All Kickstarter campaigns are 'all-or-nothing.' From the Kickstarter FAQ: "No one will be charged for a pledge towards a project unless it reaches its

Re: De-Combine: stupid question number 4732

2019-10-09 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Thanks! That's great. On 9.10.19 15:48, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi Richmond, Am 09.10.2019 um 14:40 schrieb Richmond via use-livecode : So: I have a socking-great multidimensional array that I display in a table field by using combine as in: combine myGUFF using return and

Live code for Filemaker 1.3 launched today

2019-10-09 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Just to bolster what I said https://filemaker.livecode.com/lcfm-native-1-3-faster-android-graphics-and-35-improvements/ And it has nice upgrades to the ExecuteSQL function talk about rubbing salt in the wound. I rest my case Will that be put into the main system - if not why not? We could

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Lagi Pittas - > I don't want to get into a Slanging match and I would never make it > personal. but we were never even given a basic system to enhance - > I Quote > > "Finally, remember, that this will all be open source code, built and > included in the community edition – you will be able to

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Can you provide the full link to the SQLite feature that was funded? Sean Cole Pi Digital Prod Ltd > On 9 Oct 2019, at 13:47, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > https://github.com/livecode/livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Stop Processing a Web Connection

2019-10-09 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Charles responded off list, this may be useful to others: = Unfortunately tsNet doesn’t get involved in the browser widget’s network communications, so I can’t help there... However, the best way to stop UI hangs is to use the tsNet asynchronous (non-blocking) functions so that all

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
I’m not sure about profits of 64bit other than they now don’t have to pay a separate team to keep maintaining out of date 32bit support. Here’s a list of alternative options. I personally am going to have Parallels with Mojave and SnowLeopard available (as well as Win10, 7 and Ubuntu and

Building Android Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Peter Reid via use-livecode
I've been building Android apps using my iMac for some time. However, yesterday I started to get an error message "Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_VERSION_DOWNGRADE]" when I try to build an Android standalone app. Any ideas what's causing this and how to fix it? Separately I'd like to be able to build

Re: Building Android Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Peter - This is intended as the definitive and up to date guide to getting set up for Android app building with LiveCode: http://lessons.livecode.com/m/2571/l/625198-livecode-and-android-studio If it is not up to date,

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I forgot to mention that if you didn't already create a CCC full backup or a Time Machine backup prior to the upgrade... well... there's that. Bob S > On Oct 9, 2019, at 08:16 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Can I just point out, to no one in particular on this list, that you

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Ah yes, backups.  I make it a habit to capture an image of my drive before and after any OS upgrade.  CCC works well, but I just use Apple’s tools. Thanks, Brian On Oct 9, 2019, 11:19 AM -0400, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode , wrote: > I forgot to mention that if you didn't already create a CCC

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Agree! With all the billions of $$$ Apple has, they certainly could have afforded to maintain 32-bit compatibility for smaller developers who can't afford to make every change Apple demands, but they make more profits if they don't. Sorry to any Apple fanatics. I just needed to vent my

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-09 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
As Jacqueline said, on init the app puts all models, and libraries in using…. If you using a stack that has behaviors, they are "naturally" open when because the stack, cards open. I need to check, Yes, BBEdit or Sublime or Atom works fine… On 10/8/19 5:30 AM, Brian Milby via use-livecode

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I'm an "Apple fanatic", so much so that I have to have these: 1. 2018 MacMini for up to date stuff. 2. 64-bit Intel iMac. 3. 32-bit Intel iMac. 4. G5 iMac. Because Apple with their obsession for making things obsolescent have left me with an awful lot of very useful software that I have paid

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode
So, maybe I’m an Apple fanatic but here goes… By dropping 32-bit support Apple doesn’t need to update 2 pairs of system libraries, as most 32-bit applications requires 32-bit libraries to work. Thus it would also be possible to save some disk space (as I only need 64-bit). This also means that

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Can I just point out, to no one in particular on this list, that you don't HAVE TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA??? Apple did not cause your version of LC to become obsolete. YOU DID! That being said, you can probably downgrade, especially if your hardware is so old that you still have instalation DVDs

Re: De-Combine: stupid question number 4732

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
In addition to other suggestions, you can "store" a multidimensional array in a hidden datagrid, then get or set the dgData or the dgText. Bob S > On Oct 9, 2019, at 05:40 , Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > So: I have a socking-great multidimensional array that I display in a table

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Customer (at least ours) do not understand 32 bit vs 64-bit. They will only know that (a) Apple says there is a new update for their computer and they click to update; or (b) as a member of some university or business, their computer is upgraded (perhaps at their request, perhaps as part of a

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
That would be great thanks! Richard Gaskin via use-livecode schreef op 9 oktober 2019 14:43:35 CEST: >Jjs wrote: > > > Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> What functionality or topics would you like to see examples on? > > > > For example, how globals work between html pages like SESSIONS > > variables

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
It may be too late for you, but last week I got an email from the company that makes my accounting software warning customers not to upgrade to Catalina. They said they've been working on the transition for a year and thought they'd finish in time but it didn't work out. They were quite

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
+1 Richard. I got onboard with what user to be Runtime Revolution (I think it was version 2!) Where livecode is today is orders of magnitude more than it was when it first started. There was no datagrid. No way to display tabular data apart from a very simple table field. No arrays. Difficult

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-09 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
I think i miss some understanding from my part. Sqlite is supported and working ok right. So what's this with this library? Then second, Heather said that things now in FM will flow back into lc. Pi Digital via use-livecode schreef op 9 oktober 2019 14:53:16 CEST: >Can you provide the full

Re: De-Combine: stupid question number 4732

2019-10-09 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Or use ArrayToJSON and JSONtoArray. This is my preferred method (that is not available for HTML5 deployment yet, hence the Split/CombineTable functions). Sean Cole Pi Digital Prod Ltd > On 9 Oct 2019, at 16:21, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > In addition to other suggestions, you

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Matthias Rebbe free tools for Livecoders: InstaMaker WinSignMaker Mac > Am 09.10.2019 um 17:16 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: > > Can I just point out, to no one in

Re: Building Android Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
It means you are trying to install or push a build with lower version or version code than the one already on it. If it still not works after changing your app version, then remove it from the device and then push it to it again. Peter Reid via use-livecode schreef op 9 oktober 2019 13:25:56

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
It's a good point. If any commercial developers using LC (or ANY dev environment) are going to have issues with Catalina, it might be a good idea to mail blast them and warn them if your app is not going to be compatible, and even provide a general time frame for when they will be. Also, I

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Jjs via use-livecode
@Ralf, is it possible you can put it on the forum as a zip? In the lc server section? Ralf Bitter via use-livecode schreef op 9 oktober 2019 15:36:22 CEST: > > >> On 9. Oct 2019, at 14:43, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: >> >> I remember reading about session management, and I

Re: macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Brilliant. I really need to move to Levure. I'm going to have another go at it. Bob S > On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:35 , Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi all, > > After reading the article by Matthias on notarization* I put together a > helper for Levure that will notarize a DMG

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/9/2019 12:02 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: It's a good point. If any commercial developers using LC (or ANY dev environment) are going to have issues with Catalina, it might be a good idea to mail blast them and warn them if your app is not going to be compatible, and even

Re: macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Marty Knapp via use-livecode
You won’t regret it Bob, Levure is a great framework. A big thanks (again) to Trevor. Marty > On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Brilliant. I really need to move to Levure. I'm going to have another go at > it. > > Bob S > > >> On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:35

macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi all, After reading the article by Matthias on notarization* I put together a helper for Levure that will notarize a DMG image when you package your Levure application. Here is the link: https://github.com/trevordevore/levurehelper-macos_notary To use it you will need to update to version

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
+1 I don't either. Too old and scarred to brave those waters. Bob S > On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:29 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > It may be too late for you, but last week I got an email from the company > that makes my accounting software warning customers not to upgrade to >

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Not for me: as a person who is normally an early adopter, I'm breaking my own rule and keeping well clear of Catalina. I have always been ambivalent about upgrading as the benefits have almost always been balanced by downsides [ https://www.downside.co.uk/ ] and, as I still use a BBC Model

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
As far as I know, Catalina "exists" inside its "own protected space", which means that it is like that awful conversation you have with your embarrassing relative who is banged up in one of those American prisons we see in Movies with a thickened plate-glass window and 2 retro telephone

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 10/9/2019 12:29 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: It may be too late for you, but last week I got an email from the company that makes my accounting software warning customers not to upgrade to Catalina. They said they've been working on the transition for a year and thought they'd

RE: Building Android Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Peter, This is because the Version Code(standalone setting==>Android) is numerically lower than the currently installed version. Either up the Version Code or uninstall/reinstall the app. Other issue you can run into: (Inconsistent Signing error) 1) When doing "test" installs if you move to

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Bob S. wrote: > Can I just point out, to no one in particular on this list, that > you don't HAVE TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA??? Apple did not cause your > version of LC to become obsolete. YOU DID! > > Matthias R. wrote: > Thanks Bot, i thought the same, but did not dare to write it. It is just

Re: macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
You’re welcome Marty. Glad you like it. Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 11:46 AM Marty Knapp via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > You won’t regret it Bob, Levure is a great framework. A big thanks (again) > to Trevor. > > Marty > > > On Oct 9, 2019, at

Thank you for the 9.0.5 update

2019-10-09 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
For the time being, I am developing on 9.0.5 stable. The reason is that debugging with red dots no longer crashes LiveCode. I appreciate the time taken to implement this bug fix. https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7185 My productivity

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
I’m not so concerned with the latest version of Catalina as I am with some of the software I use ceasing to function. Want to make sure I either update everything to 64bit, find a replacement, or convert documents into a format that will work with the 64bit apps that I do have. Kee > On Oct

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
I just use macWrap32. Oh. Wait. There isn't one. > On Oct 9, 2019, at 12:17 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode > wrote: > > I’m not so concerned with the latest version of Catalina as I am with some of > the software I use ceasing to function. Want to make sure I either update > everything to

Re: Catalina

2019-10-09 Thread JJS via use-livecode
I just got an email from Arturia a french based company that makes software and nowadays hardware synthesizers too, warning customers not to update to Catalina, until there is a hotfix. Many plugins producers use in music DAW's are still 32-bits and will not work. What a great move from

Re: Questions about LC Server Apps

2019-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Jjs wrote: >> Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Apparently the Server Guide is no longer included in the Sever >> download. >> >> Instead there's a copy of the Release Notes named as though they're >> specific to Server, but they don't seem to be. ... >> Once we have it we can put it back into place