Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Antti Ilola via use-livecode
If Apple is so horrible, why do you do software to them and I think that Apple has no monopoly, since Android shares 85% of the phone market. Antti to 6. elok. 2020 klo 22.23 JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode ( use-livecode@lists.runrev.com) kirjoitti: > Wow, that's heavy Jacque. > I'm not at all

Re: Secure Socket

2020-08-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2020-08-06 19:28, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: Do you think it is overkill to still encrypt it before I send it? Yes :) Applying industrial strength encryption twice does not increase security - it just wastes processor cycles. Indeed, if you are encrypting data to send over an

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Antti, Android has 85% of the world market, it all depends on which country you're selling and which metrics you're using. In the U.S. iOS has 58% of the smartphone market and 63% of the tablet market. Another important factor is that iOS users spend more money on apps than their Android peers.

Facturing/Billing Warning Google Play dev console when using Android 8.0 as minimum version

2020-08-07 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
Hi, i got a warning uploading an app update which uses minimum Android Version 8.0 Oreo about facturing rights, it does not use facturing. Also in the standalone settings in-App Purchases is not selected. Uploading an other app with minimum Android version 5.0 i do not get that warning.

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
My primary reason is that my clients always want their mobile app released for both platforms. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On August 7, 2020 6:34:45 AM Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: Antti, Android has 85%

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
And Apple knows it. -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 9:08 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > My primary reason is that my clients always want their mobile app released > for both platforms. > -- >

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
I thought "web apps" were going to level the playing field, and they could be made to look just like iPhone apps on an iPhone, one just rigs the css and graphics. How did that work out? I do love Livecode serverbrilliant. (full disclosure, I hate using phones for stuff I can do on a

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
"A monopoly refers to when a company and its product offerings dominate a sector or industry. Monopolies can be considered an extreme result of free-market capitalism in that absent any restriction or restraints, a single company or group

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Brian, It is not about Apple allowing clones. It is about Apple opening iOS for other stores. Every other platform has multiple app stores, for example, on my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 I have Play Store, Galaxy Store, F-Droid, and some apps that were sideloaded after being purchased/downloaded from

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Jim, > Even with 58% of the US smartphone market Apple does not actually have a monopoly. > Now there may be plenty of good reasons to object to Apple’s app store policies but let’s not misuse the term monopoly. There is another way to approach this. Apple has the monopoly of the iOS market,

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Not sure the question is relevant. You chose to buy the iHouse over the droidHouse for some reason. Maybe you wanted to live in the neighborhood with the lowest crime rate. Also, until Apple is forced to allow other companies to make compatible phones, I don’t see how the logic works.

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Stephen, Web Apps don't level the playing field because Apple controls the web engine on iOS. They don't allow any other web engine on the platform, so if they don't implement an API that would hurt their monopoly for whatever reason their PR machine uses as justification, we end up with a weaker

Re: Secure Socket

2020-08-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Mark, thank you for taking the time and helping me make peace on this subject. On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:28 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2020-08-06 19:28, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: > > Do you think it is overkill to still encrypt it

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Apple created a closed platform with their own store and rules. Now that they are successful to say that they must change seems incorrect. For whatever reason people like the product and I think a big part IS the store and model. I don’t think another store is the answer and rather think it

Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-07 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Folks: One thing that seems to be missing in this discussion is the point of view of the “client”, the one who downloads the app and pays for it. I agree that the hoops one has to go through to get an app in the Apple store are a big pain, and that it seems unfair for Apple to get a cut of