Re: Older version of LC vs Windows 10, app not responding

2017-06-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
The app is not code-signed -- that wasn't nearly as much of a thing when I built it. My friend distributes the app to multiple people. Some with Windows 10 are running the app with no problem, but this one new user is having this issue. My friend sent another disc and hasn't heard back, so fingers

Older version of LC vs Windows 10, app not responding

2017-06-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I built an app for a friend of mine many years ago, I think with version 6.x of LC. He in turn has a customer running the app on Windows 10. Other Windows 10 users aren't having an issue, but this one is getting a display that says the app is "Not Responding". I know that's vague, but I figured

At this point, what's the shortest path to an iOS/Android app?

2017-12-15 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I have an app that I want to put into the app stores. I don't want to charge for it. It's a super simple memory game, it took just a few hours to build. There's nothing complex about it, just a handful of buttons, a few fields, and a couple sliders. It's been a while since I investigated -- If I

Optimization can be tricky

2018-06-11 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
​I have a routine that takes about a minute to run for the test case I created, and who knows how long for the real use case. Given that I want to run it several thousand times for actual work, I need it to run (much) faster. Roughly, the routine gathers together a bunch of data from arrays,

Re: Optimization can be tricky

2018-06-18 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Thanks for all the suggestions -- I tried multiple ideas without much improvement, then decided to rethink the problem. Roughly: I have a bunch of source data that I categorized by two numbers, the first from 1-N where N might be anywhere from 100-5,000, and the second from 1-100. For any given

Re: TOOLS ROUNDUP! TOOLS ROUNDUP!

2018-04-26 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > a stack that will build a text file of the scripts of > all of the open (non-IDE) stacks (except itself). ​I just saw this. FYI, in Navigator you can right-click on any selection of items and

Re: Two new videos about using Navigator with LiveCode

2018-01-04 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
For anyone who wants, documentation for the (nearly) latest version is here: https://gcanyon.wordpress.com/navigator-documentation/ On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:19 AM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Often "Navigator" works good for me in LC 8 (I stopped developing in

Re: Two new videos about using Navigator with LiveCode

2018-01-04 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I don't see a way to publish to http://livecodeshare.runrev.com I posted to the forums: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=13=30394 thanks! gc On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:19 AM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Often "Navigator" works good for me in LC 8 (I

Re: Two new videos about using Navigator with LiveCode

2018-01-04 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I still use the same source control I used when I started it: an archive folder with several hundred saved versions. :-) What's the easiest/expected way to start a repo for it/a LiveCode project? gc On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>

Custom properties of IDE palettes?

2018-01-09 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I'm exploring the LC 8 IDE. If I type in the message box: put the customkeys of the mouseStack and put the pointer over the message box, I press return and see a list of custom properties: cREVIntelligenceObject cREVLeft cREVTopLeft etc But if I put the pointer over the Tools palette or

Do widgets support introspection?

2018-01-09 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Is there a way, given a widget, to find out programmatically what the relevant properties of the widget are? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Custom properties of IDE palettes?

2018-01-09 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
ops for their functionality. > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:40 PM Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I'm exploring the LC 8 IDE. If I type in the message box: > > > > put the customkeys of the mouseStack > > > >

Re: Two new videos about using Navigator with LiveCode

2018-01-05 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
ething might be > saved that would block the appearance of commands in the list of handlers. > > I can send you the script off list if you want… we have a lot of comments in > there… possibly breaking your look up..? > > BR > > On 1/3/18, 6:26 PM, "use-livecod

Re: Do widgets support introspection?

2018-01-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The info will be that required by the property inspector - which is > probably suitable for Navigator (which I'm assuming is what you are looking > to update :)). > ​Get out of my head!

Re: Do widgets support introspection?

2018-01-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > There is an API which does it in a form suitable for the property > inspector, but that's not quite as succinct. > ​Is this script-accessible, or just engine-accessible?​

Re: Do widgets support introspection?

2018-01-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I have to admit, having parsed the results of revIDEPropertiesInfo and looked at , it took me more than a few tries at: set the timeZone of widget "clock" to 1 set the timeZone of widget "clock" to 5 set the timeZone of widget "clock" to 9 ...etc. before I noticed that the second hand was

Re: Custom properties of IDE palettes?

2018-01-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
AHA! (thanks) gc On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > The 'cLocked' is a getProp/setProp (virtual) custom property, which is why > it doesn't appear in the customKeys. > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark.

Re: Custom properties of IDE palettes?

2018-01-09 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
; I don't think they have any custom properties... at least, if they do then >> they don't do anything. They are script-only stacks & behaviors that >> generate the UI; they don't use custom props for their functionality. >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:40 PM Geoff Canyon v

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Well that's too bad for anyone who's currently using chained behaviors and wants to use source control (i.e. convert to script-only stacks). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
This page http://livecode.wikia.com/wiki/Behavior describes "chained" behaviors, saying that button 1 can have button 2 as its behavior, and if button 2 has button 3 as *its* behavior, then button 1 will have access to the handlers in both button 2 and button 3. This seems to work in LC 8.1.8,

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I get that it can be done, I just hesitate to start monkeying with people's scripts like that in Navigator (which is going to have a conversion function in the next update). For now I'm thinking that I just skip anything with chained behaviors, unless someone has a better suggestion. On Sat, Jan

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
; gc > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Dumb question, Geoff, are you going to embed/call Scriptifier to achieve >> that or are you going to do something else? >> >> On Sat,

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
mbed/call Scriptifier to achieve > that or are you going to do something else? > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I get that it can be done, I just hesitate to start monkeying with > people's &g

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Down etc) and warn about > scriptifying those. We got caught with idle in an old script in an IDE > stack once. > > Cheers > > Monte > > > On 21 Jan 2018, at 6:28 pm, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > At a fun

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Another key difference in our implementations that I find fascinating: you create script-only stacks by creating the stacks, then saving the stacks. I created them by constructing a variable with the text contents of the stacks, then writing that out to files with put into url etc. On Sun, Jan

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Also, status update: grr. I'm finding that the answer dialog I'm using to warn the user that the script conversion process is dangerous and to work on a backup is causing my script to die, no warning, and no error message. The exact same script *not* running in Navigator works fine. Answer dialogs

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
It occurs to me that this isn't as much of a problem as I thought -- any button being converted to a stack is highly unlikely to have an openstack handler already in it, and therefore it would be safe to add one and include setting the behavior of the script-only stack to the appropriate stack up

Crazy script-only stack question

2018-01-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Is there any reason script-only stacks had to be implemented in the engine? Is there any reason *not* to implement their equivalent in about five lines of code in the mainstack of a project? i.e., on loadTextStack tFilePath put url ("file:/" & tFilePath) into tStackData put line 1 of

Re: Particular behavior

2018-01-24 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
If I'm understanding correctly, then sure, given the caveat that only buttons and script-only stacks (and maybe regular stacks?) can be behaviors. So either: Put the callback handler(s) that are currently in card “CardFoo" of stack “StackFoo” into a button. Set the button as the behavior of the

Navigator now supports converting controls to script-only stack behaviors

2018-01-24 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I now have an alpha version of Navigator that is built entirely using script-only stack behaviors, and it includes the function I used to do it. You can download Navigator 5 here . The full documentation is here

Chained behavior performance seems fine

2018-01-24 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I was curious about the performance of chained behaviors, so I created a stack to time them. I compared a button with a behavior to a button with a chain of 100 behaviors, with the code in the very last button. The performance diving through 99 extra behavior links was pretty decent -- I was

Re: Navigator now supports converting controls to script-only stack behaviors

2018-01-25 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Also: the bug has been fixed. GitHub and the download on my Navigator page have been updated. I also have a separate branch where I'm improving the handlers menu. Woot! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Navigator saves stackfiles, script menu supports unlimited behaviors

2018-01-25 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Added a "Save StackFiles" menu item to the popup menu when right-clicking on a stack or multiple stacks. This is especially useful for stacks using script-only behaviors. With one command it saves all the stacks referenced in the stack's stackfiles property. This is particularly useful for stacks

Re: Navigator now supports converting controls to script-only stack behaviors

2018-01-25 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I think I have it figured out -- Mikey suggested GitKraken, and that seems to work pretty well. I got the hang of how the branch/commit process works with a test directory and some simple text files. I'm thinking of making a "seriously, for beginners" video of that process. The one remaining

Re: Navigator now supports converting controls to script-only stack behaviors

2018-01-25 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:36 AM Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > I have a fix coded, but I'm in the middle of another update, so I will > > update the whole thing tomorrow morning. (This is the sort of thing > GitHu

Re: Navigator now supports converting controls to script-only stack behaviors

2018-01-25 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I found one bug: if you try to save the script-only stacks in the same folder as any of the stacks containing the objects you're converting, the conversion process will hang partway through. The hang should occur before anything has been changed, but still: Don't Do This. I have a fix coded, but

Reloading script-only stacks

2018-01-26 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
With version control, switching branches switches out SoS files. Is it best/necessary to then run through the stackfiles and set the destroystack of each to true and close/reopen them? Or is there a better way? gc ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Do widgets support introspection?

2018-01-09 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Do the built-in widgets come with manifests? On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Might be easier to examine the manifest.xml file for the properties. > At least via a script. ___

Re: Navigator update: better conversion to behaviors, better property editing, better version control, and send to private commands

2018-02-01 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
a use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I love it when someone else solves a problem I've been thinking about > attacking. I get a lot more gaming in that way :-) > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:56 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runr

Navigator update: better conversion to behaviors, better property editing, better version control, and send to private commands

2018-01-31 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I updated the 5.1 alpha of Navigator. You can download Navigator 5 here . The full documentation is here , and there is a description in detail of how conversion

Re: Super weird drag and drop/mouseMove/mouseRelease issue

2018-02-05 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Just did another test, and it's literally enough to do this: on mouseMove if the optionkey is down then set the hScrollbar of me to false else set the hScrollbar of me to true if amDragging then dispatch "trackMovement" to this cd of stack "revDragExample" end mouseMove and hold

Super weird drag and drop/mouseMove/mouseRelease issue

2018-02-05 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I'm working on extending drag and drop into/out of Navigator. To do that, when a drag leaves Navigator I'm using a blendlevel'd stack to represent the dragged objects as the pointer moves around the screen. This is in LC 8.1.8, on a Mac. This works fine until the drag goes both to the right and

Re: Navigator update: better conversion to behaviors, better property editing, better version control, and send to private commands

2018-02-03 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
The update is now available here . I haven't updated the documentation yet. The main changes are: 1. The whole convert-to-behaviors and restore-from-behaviors bit has been moved to its own custom palette, opened from Navigator. This

Re: SE: restore default handlers?

2018-02-06 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Does this do what I think it does!? i.e. make it so rev code can throw errors, be debugged, breakpointed, and stepped through. If so, oh my goodness you just made my day. I have been debugging Navigator for fourteen years now, all with answer statements and puts. My code is literally riddled

Re: SE: restore default handlers?

2018-02-06 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 02/06/2018 02:46 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote: > >> Does this do what I think it does!? i.e. make it so rev code can throw >> errors, be debugged, breakpoin

Re: Navigator

2018-02-06 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Hey, you're welcome! I'm just happy (and a bit surprised!) that it's still useful/in use. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 3:03 PM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Mark T. wrote: > > Geoff Canyon is amazing. > > Thanks for all of your hard work on this very useful plugin. >

Navigator Update -- Drag and Drop!

2018-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Drag and drop has always been just within a single Navigator window -- not between Navigator windows, and not to/from open stacks. That changes (a bit) today! You can now select any set of controls in a Navigator window and drag them out of that window and onto any open stack. Detailed

Re: Navigator Update -- Drag and Drop!

2018-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
cripts already intact, but I > never was able to get the drag/drop functionality working. > > Bob S > > > > On Feb 12, 2018, at 01:52 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Drag and drop has always been just within a

Re: Use of Serialize Behavior in Script Only Stack

2018-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Based on the thread on this mailing list several weeks ago, that sounds reasonable. I know in that thread it was only proposed that a script-only stack could specify another stack as its behavior, and not a button. On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode <

Re: Navigator update: better conversion to behaviors, better property editing, better version control, and send to private commands

2018-02-05 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
as a behavior. > > I will go back to an older version for now. > > Best regards, > > Mark Talluto > livecloud.io <http://livecloud.io/> > nursenotes.net <http://nursenotes.net/> > canelasoftware.com <http://www.canelasoftware.com/> > > > > On

Re: Navigator update: better conversion to behaviors, better property editing, better version control, and send to private commands

2018-02-05 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
card that has a behavior associated with it. >> The line is blue in color indicating that it has a behavior. >> >> I will go back to an older version for now. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mark Talluto >> livecloud.io <http://livecloud.io/> >>

Survey on Navigator features

2018-02-19 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Calling all Navigator users: can you fill out this (very) brief survey to help me understand what needs to be done with Navigator? https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8V3Y2D5 Thanks! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: xkcd predictions for the 2018 cve list

2018-02-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
http://www.schneierfacts.com On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:50 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > turns out the cloud is just other people's computers. > > https://xkcd.com/1957/ > > ...and there's a tooltip... > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com > >

Navigator Update

2018-02-24 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Navigator has been updated to include: -- Filtering in the Stack List (both using the filter field, and the more robust filter command). -- A fix for an issue where editing properties could show the editor in HTMLtext mode, meaning that properties would be set incorrectly. -- A new Save All

Navigator Update -- full drag and drop

2018-02-19 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
You can now drag and drop from Navigator windows to LC stacks, and from Navigator windows to other Navigator windows. You can: Drag controls and bookmarks from Navigator to a stack to add and position controls. (Note, this always duplicates the control even if you're dragging a control that is

Two new videos about using Navigator with LiveCode

2018-01-03 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I updated my copy of ScreenFlow, so I made two new videos about how to use Navigator with LiveCode. Navigator is old -- I mostly finished with it about a dozen years ago -- but I updated it a few years ago to work with behaviors, so if you use those it can be really helpful. That said, I haven't

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-11 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Updated to fix the errant put, now marked as alpha 2. Turns out what looked like a bug with folding was me misinterpreting what Navigator was doing. I definitely need to figure out a better visual representation. gc On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:08 PM Geoff Canyon wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 10,

Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Seems stable to me, but no one else has tried it, so I'm calling it alpha 1, use at your own risk. You can get Navigator here . Or grab it from GitHub . Update documentation is here

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-11 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:31 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Very nice. (I did notice that your collapse code still has an apparent > debug msg put with a couple of numbers). > I'll take it for a spin and see if I notice anything (but kind of doubt I >

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 12:00 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Plugins should probably be de-scriptified for distribution for this > reason. > This would be very bad for Navigator. Navigator shows multiple copies of itself (as many as you like/can

Re: Regaining IDE Efficiency: Property Inspector

2018-08-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:49 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/09/2018 08:14 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > > Many (most?) development environments use a property sheet* instead, to > > handle the deep, rich variety of detailed

Re: valueDiff for arrays?

2018-08-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Are you working with "LiveCode UI elements appear in lists of stacks" enabled? I specifically named all the script behaviors for Navigator starting with "rev" and they don't show up in the Project Browser for me. Not that I had looked before this, I use Navigator for everything. ;-) On Sat, Aug

Re: LCB Performance

2018-08-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
This is not in LCB script, but you posting this reminded me of some code I wrote a long time ago when I needed (for a programming challenge) to write a function that would return primes up to 10^9 or so. That was far too large to do the traditional "build an array of excluded values" sort of

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-15 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Thanks, sending you PayPal info privately. On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 7:51 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Great job Geoff! Where can I donate to your cause? Paypal perhaps? > > Bob S > > > ___ > use-livecode

Re: Using stackoverflow.com

2018-08-15 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Ah, topics are the key concept. Glad that now Navigator is associated with LiveCode on GitHub... On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:59 AM Warren Samples via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:10:57 -0700 > Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote: &g

Re: Using stackoverflow.com

2018-08-15 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:08 PM Todd Fabacher via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > 1. Not sufficient 3rd party tools with a viable marketplace [also little on > Git]. If we have all these old LC scripts and they are open source, why > don't we just put them on git??? >

Re: Using stackoverflow.com

2018-08-15 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:10 AM Geoff Canyon wrote: > > The process wasn't too painful: > > 1. Create a new repository on GitHub > 2. Pick a spot on my computer and clone the repository using GitKraken > 3. Use Navigator (shameless self promotion!) to export the script I wrote > into a

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-13 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
A question for anyone/everyone working with Navigator: the prefs dialog is actually set up to allow for many of the preferences to be specific to the Navigator that opened the dialog, or universal. I went with universal by default, but the code is all there. Is there any appetite for having a

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-13 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
It's actually just the left 30 pixels to collapse/expand. I was going to include the word "group" and everything to the left, but then I came up with the "define your own display string" feature, which means that the word "group" might not even be in the string. Personally, I'm liking just

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-13 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
<http://www.canelasoftware.com/> > > > > > > On Aug 10, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > *Group Folding! *Just click on the left 30 pixels of any group to > > fold/unfold

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
have people complaining they set a pref and now it isn't > sticking. > > Bob S > > > > On Aug 13, 2018, at 19:21 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > A question for anyone/everyone working with Navigator: the p

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
ode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> I'm good with universal really. Preferences can become too granular. Then >> you would have people complaining they set a pref and now it isn't >> sticking. >> >> Bob S >> >> >> > On Aug 13, 2018, at 19:21 , Geoff

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Good that alt works on Windows, because the more I think about it, the more I realize this will be challenging to untangle. I use the optionkey in Navigator for...options (who da thunk it?) all over the place. gc On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:09 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-15 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I just pushed a new update that has the following features: 1. Right/Control-click on any card or group and the popup menu will include a "Fold Depth" sub-menu. Setting a depth other than "Show All" will fold groups within that card/group to that level. 2. Right/Control-click on a group, and Fold

Re: Not many people know this.

2018-08-16 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
re: Stack versioning: I personally do that using Git/GitKraken. Any suggestion how it should work? re: text styles: you can edit the contents of any field (hidden/locked, whatever) in Navigator. You can convert the editor on the fly from showing the styled text to the HTMLtext of the field, which

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-11 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
> hey Geoff I can't for the life of me find a way to view my list of > cards in the navigator, i want to switch between cards ...i'm sure there is > an easy way. thanks...really liking not having to hunt for that fing > project browser window. :) > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:46

Re: Navigator 6.0 Alpha 4

2018-08-18 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I’ll have a look when I’m back at my laptop. gc > On Aug 18, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode > wrote: > > Geoff... > > Excellent tool but I can't seem to get it to display one of the "cards" of a > Data Grid template. In a "standard" DataGrid Form object, Card Id's

Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

2018-08-20 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Phew -- this was a lot of work, as I basically had to (for about the ninth time!) completely re-write a portion of the drag-and-drop code, which is by far my least favorite part of Navigator. Briefly, this release does three things: 1. Fixes drag-and-drop code so that it should work correctly

Re: Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

2018-08-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I made a slight update to fix an issue with the drag and drop indicators. Using some fonts in Navigator's list field would cause the indicators to be off when dragging in long lists. Oddly, this seems to be because the effective textHeight of the field reports a 1-off pixel count. So instead of

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
It turns out I think I'm not doing something wrong, but I fixed it anyway. ;-) It appears the "clone" command doesn't match the documentation. For me, in LC 8 on a Mac, it seems that issuing a clone command for a card in another stack doesn't clone the card in its owner, but to the stack running

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Wow, that's a brutal bug. You're not doing anything wrong, I am ;-) I'm looking at it now... On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:35 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi, > > today i wanted to clone a card with Navigator, but the cloned card then is > added to

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:50 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > SO THAT'S how you do it! And do you mean it clones to the topstack? > Usually you would clone a card from the message box, and of course it > cannot clone to that! > > Bob S > I'm not 100% sure

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 8:58 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Geoff, > thanks for the quick update. > > There´s another thing i noticed: > > I moved the opened revNavigator stack on the right side of the LC Menu > below the Mac OS X menu bar. > When i

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-23 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Bah, my mistake. Should be fixed now: Get Navigator here . Or grab it from GitHub . On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 11:43 PM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >

Re: editing & combining sound files?

2018-08-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I did something very much like this way, way, way long ago (in the MetaCard days...). I don't remember the sound format, and it was mono, not stereo, but it turned out that the format for the sound file was *really* simple: a few bytes of easily-managed header, a bunch of binary data that

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-23 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:58 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > thank you very much. It´s working here now. > > Regards, > > Matthias > Great! ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > put the screenRect > > 0,126,2560,1566 > -2560,0,0,1440 > > put the working screenrects > > 0,149,2560,1566 > -2560,23,0,1440 > > > Regards, > > Matthias > > > Am 22.08.2018 um 20:11 sc

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
f time copy pasting objects. Heretofore I've been unable to do > that, but now I know, just place a button on card 1 of the new stack. > > Bob S > > > > On Aug 21, 2018, at 20:50 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > O

Re: Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

2018-08-21 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:46 AM Clarence Martin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > My Bad! > I am replying to my own question. > I found that by right clicking on the item and using the "select objects", > I > can hilite and get the object info. > Yep, when Navigator is

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

2018-08-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:56 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Yes, i have a dual-screen setup. > Can you tell me what put the screenrects results in for you? And put the working screenrects Thanks gc

Re: [OT]Silly weekend LC poll

2018-08-26 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I very rarely say either, but I'm pretty sure I treat them as sound abbreviations, and pronounce them like the first syllables of the words they represent, i.e. "care" and "loke" On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:08 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I wonder

Re: Project Browser - refresh button still not available

2018-09-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:38 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Ha! The PB is a maintenance nightmare... you're looking at 12 mainstacks > plus a behavior stack or two, and some seemingly random stuff thrown in > for good measure... still haven't figured

Re: 4WDevolution question

2018-09-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 9:08 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Just a tip for those not using devo: cmd-ctrl-shift-right click on any > stack displays a menu with many different options, one of which is to save > the stack regardless of the mode. It also

Re: What do we know about LC 10?

2018-08-30 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:42 PM Martin Koob via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I wonder if Open Language will get some attention.. > Open Language was always my favorite feature. I'd still like to be able to grow/morph the syntax.

Re: What do we know about LC 10?

2018-08-30 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Maybe? I haven't explored LCB at all. I'm much more interested in extending Livecode Script, if that ever becomes possible. On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:42 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Isn’t this somewhat possible in LCB now? I know there isn’t really

Re: Crazy script-only stack question

2018-01-23 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2018-01-23 17:21, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote: > >> ​This actually raises another point (and I'm sure this is a discussion >> that >> happene

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
That's disappointing. On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 3:38 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Keep in mind that script only stacks that are loaded into memory by the > engine because they are referenced in the stackfiles of another stack won’t > be sent any

Re: Crazy script-only stack question

2018-01-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
locked in, we > are not touching that too much, if anyone is, it's usually just one person, > so pulling and pushing the binary from GIT is not that big a deal… conflict > wise… of course if some others on the team *do* want to touch the UI, then > it gets messy > > BR > > O

Re: Crazy script-only stack question

2018-01-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Is there any reason script-only stacks had to be implemented in the > engine? > > > > It is nice t

Re: Do script-only stacks support "chained" behaviors?

2018-01-22 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
break the references, etc. > > I'm glad you're working on this! Now I can stop thinking about working on > it and go do something else. > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 6:38 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018

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