I think everybody is overplaying this.
It will only matter if the amount of money or other advantages is worth at
The algorithm executed in Amazons cloud at the cheapest rate would cost
that much in processing to get 1 key.
The only people that will waste YOUR money to do this
> being made now are future proofed.
> There is also the PR element to consider - Does Livecode really want to be
> advertising a demonstrably insecure hash algorithm as a feature...
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
Why does it need to be a part of the language and not a widget or a library
stack which we can all fiddle with for our projects , which would make it
more difficult for the bad boys to decrypt?
On 24 February 2017 at 17:15, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
> And if you are that way inclined it will do latex.
> And for $9.99 it isnt even worth thinking about a trial
I used Quiver 3
Allows you to sync to dropbox , google drive etc, export as pdf,, html,
markdown, plain text and json (infact the actual data is json)
What I love is I can cut and paste websites and all the graphics and
formatting are stored as well and the syntax coloring for most of the
Thanks for a very nicely done stack , and some useful snippets, but I am
now blind and seeing pink elephants everywhere ;-)
Do you prefer the Pink Panther to the Finstones by any chance?
Kindest Regards Lagi
On 13 January 2017 at 15:02, pink via use-livecode <
If I didn't know about livecode or Hypercard and stumbled on the main site
today - I would be off in a flash.
If I landed on the Xojo main page and went to the store the prices and the
layout are not eye watering
I actually prefer livecode (I have enterprize
I downloaded it here - running on Windows 7 virtual machine in Parallels. I
got the same message.
Just a point , I know this is beta but the interface is very ambiguous as
to what you have to press to signup etc.
Why the two password fields when you only need 1.
f you have a
The company reads all this babble and doesn't bother to respond so that we
could all partake of their wisdom.
On 13 April 2017 at 23:17, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
> Richmond wrote:
> > On 4/13/17 7:44 pm, Curry Kenworthy via
Over the years I found that when there was a trial version of software ,
whether it was 10 days or 30 days , it didn't make any difference because
except for the first day of download life/work would get in the way and by
the time I had time to test the software the 30 days were up.
I'm presuming (presumptuous moi?) that my bit about the company not
listening elicited what I wanted - somebody from LC to pipe in - the fact
that was Kevin was a bonus.
So let me say here and now I LOVE LC and the more I use LC the more I like
it BUT.. I will be honest, if I found the site
Maybe I'm being dense here but
If You HAVE tom use the ACTUAL government PDF and be pixel perfect then how
can you be printing anything of any type out as a pdf
whether with eps or any changed fields - maybe I haen't read all the posts
but am I missing something?
Can you explain in 1 place
Excellent points Axwald especially the last paragraph.
Happy Happy Happy Fun Fun Fun!! ;-)
On 2 March 2017 at 10:20, axwald via use-livecode <
> Dr Peter Brett wrote
> > On 24/02/2017 18:47, axwald via use-livecode wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Not a
I took that to be a self-deprecating comment and not anything to be
offended by unless your comment hermann is supposed to be ironic in some
On 29 July 2017 at 13:51, hh via use-livecode wrote:
> I don't miss the "wait" handler in
Frankly I don't agree with "protection" that causes problems to the
In all my years of writng bespoke software I ALWAYS placed a copy of the
source on the CEO machine and told them (for no extra) . If I got run over
by a bus then the company wouldn't be at a loss - there are many
If Klaus and Richard can't be given Admin rights then the world is doomed.
If it is data protection then surely you must have the some way of
allowing a new employee/current employee of the company to have admin
But some of these nanny state laws that are totally ignored by the very
+100 To Mark for that one
In fact it could copy the complicated condition AND any comment after it -
best of all possible worlds
On 11 August 2017 at 02:38, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> On 08/10/2017 06:24 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode
u all again for LC (Other than the
dot notation, the open language ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tvauOJMHo ;-) )
Kindest Regards Lagi
On 11 August 2017 at 12:16, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
> On 2017-08-11 12:51, Lagi Pittas via us
I Beg to Differ about Next Repeat.
"It's not wat you do it's the way that you do it" comes to mind
Someone who writes spaghetti code can do it very well in any language but
its much more difficult without the structure brought in by the
I have not used a Goto
I Didn't laugh or smile at that (not because it wasn't funny) but because
it didn't have the same effect as when as a teenager I first heard it on
the Parkinson show in the mid 70s from Billy Connolly.
I just went onto youtube and guess what I still laughed at the original
which is very
I second that emotion.
And this shouldn't cause any regressions or refactoring - should be
announced by thursday then? ;-)
On 10 July 2017 at 22:53, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
> On 7/10/2017 4:54 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
> > On
I've tried to to login to the app from an iphone 6 ios 10.3.2
Ive restarted it a couple of time but always the same.
The Username and Password field asre white and enabled - I enter the
details but no other field is enabled.
Now some feedback.
My pet peeve (it happened on a
I would think there could be use cases where that would be useful (hidden
monsters, unexploded bombs)
I assumed that they left this undocumented feature (bug?) in because the
"fix" is so simple but with the other use cases not so simple - or is it?
On 14 July 2017 at 11:01,
I Can't understand this fixation with how many characters typed.
I now quite like the verbose "dot notation" of Livecode - it's now second
nature and it's the last thing I would even bother asking to augment with
"real" dot notation.
the put into variable adds very little time to typing and is
Thanks for popping in with a vary practical and edifying lesson in the
power of the widget program/display mechanics.
Basically OO MVC for widgets with - in this case at least - very low
Maybe you or somebody on the list with greater Livecode powers than me
I'm wondering if the recursion limit is limited within the IDE and you are
allowed to recurse to your hearts content in a standalone.
Well that's what I would surmise from the error message - IDEstack.
I could be wrong though.
On 4 July 2017 at 08:05, Richmond
Especially now the patent has lapsed
On 6 July 2017 at 16:14, Keith Martin via use-livecode <
> On 6 Jul 2017, at 15:45, Matt Maier via use-livecode wrote:
> Why is this stuff not in the dictionary?
> Also, given the massive prevalence
I was just about to suggest the Abyss webserver when I read your post.
I can confirm that after trying about 6 webservers to run ActiveVFP - a
system to run the FoxPro language on the Web ALL other webservers
crashed.either at start or after a few minutes, Abyss is running without a
I had the same problem when I started using Tables and after I found the
TAB delimiter "trick" as per Hermann, it was obvious (20/20 Hind sight).
The Aha! moment came when using commas messed it up by putting them all in
1 column with the commas intact. I just assumed everybody knew and I was
Actually I like the idea it's exactly what Bret Victor said was needed in
languages I post this link again nobody commented on it the last time
Are you listening Mark?
Still would like to know if the additional parsers/lexers ideas
I don't know why you want to adapt/enhance the number format as that could
break already working code that uses the nuances of numberformat already.
Why not add an instruction NumberFormatXL and create the an Excel version
like Curry says. You won't have to jump through hoops to make sure it
I have my program(s) running on Windows 7 embeded
10.1 inch and 8 inch windows 10 tablets (fusion 5 and linx)
10.1 inch android tablets from fusion 5
5 inch DOOGEE android phones for less than £50 although there are really
good ones upto 5.5 inch for less than £70
samsung 7" tab 4
Even better than what I use - I think thanks to a Dave Kilroy post many
Because you don't first have to remember or find the name of the window.
But I've only ever had this happen to a stack of mine which I know the name
I use Dave's trick when the window
Happens to the best of us ...
set the loc of stack “revNewScriptEditor 1” to the screenloc
On 8 August 2017 at 11:53, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> Somehow I did something and my scriptEditor window
> got stuck with its grab-bar off the top
I Tawt I Taw a Puddy Tat
On 7 August 2017 at 23:26, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> Wh, Cwme wn that's ridiculwus; everywne knwws that the English fwr "Cwm"
> is "cwmbe".
> This is Hwpeless!
> On 8/8/17 1:23 am, Jonathan
I've just purchased your udemy course to say thank you.
I'm sure somewhere down the line this will be very useful
On 19 August 2017 at 14:20, pink via use-livecode <
> For experimentation, you can setup a free account with IBM
Congratulations and Eudemonia to you all Ali.
Now let's see if I can use Computer metaphors,puns and word play with the
rest of them ...
Now the real "Programming" starts with a Finite State Ali-Gata which is a
child Object Instantiation of the Parent Class. Set the garbage collector
You are a big Tease.
On 24 May 2017 at 13:13, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
> On 2017-05-17 22:41, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote:
>> It can be difficult for long term users of an application to
>> appreciate the
You forget right upto Visual Foxpro 9, Fox still was backwards compatible
with Dbase 2 and still had the STORE statement.
STORE A TO B
STORE 1+15 to C
STORE 5 to a,b,,c,d
STORE "HELLO" to message
The HC and DBASE way is the logical way to do it for mere mortals, but
when the whole
You might want to watch this 1 hour ish video by Bret Victor as you are
I've seen a good few of his talks over the years and read a lot of his
If you think it's too long just got to either 2:30 or 10:30 (that one is
mind blowing) but I'd suggest you listen to the whole
On 25 May 2017 at 12:33, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
> Can you post the URL to that video, please?
> On 5/25/17 1:13 pm, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote:
Better than Udemy's exchange rate
$10 -> £15 for special deal at the moment
$10 is £7.85 (by google exchange rate) add 20% vat gives £9.42 by my
reckoning and they charge £15 - go figure!!
Kindest Regards Lagi
On 9 June 2017 at 15:44, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode <
I have to second that emotion Mathias.
It was excellent - and I stayed the whole nine yards - Next time I'll buy a
The idea of the recorded sessions interspersed with the live speaker was a
definite help in more ways than one.
I think it also helps the team being over six months as it
I don't know if the users who asked for it to be disabled are just dumb or
webinarjam for disabling the option after numerous requests by some morons
(no I won't give them the benefit of the doubt ).
If it's a replay then if I come to watch it, then I have decided to and if
i decide I want to go
You are a Godsend - I never knew of the metadata - I have a whole lot of
refactoring to do.
I was using the "hidden" tab fields trick but this is way better
This is going to make so much stuff so easy - and so much easier to debug
On 8 May 2017 at 09:34, Tiemo Hollmann
Since you can write a Turing machine and a Universal Turing Machine
emulator in Livecode - it definitely is.
What made you think it wasn't? - SQL is not Turing complete the Regex
built into LC is not Turing Complete btw.
Oh and BrainF*k is ;-)
I Missed an important bit in my previous post (below)
What I wanted to say after the bit about the Topspeed compilers using the
is that LiveCode Builder / Stack only scripts could start with a switch
setting at the top saying which language this should compile with or even
Andre how do we get your book(s) somebody on here posted that he had the
book that is still showing 80% done on leanpub
KIndest Regards Lagi
On 27 June 2017 at 00:20, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> I am not Trevor so he may suggest something
There is a very simple way of doing this (simple for me - because I don't
have to do it)
We are still awaiting the open language that was promised.
Now I don't know exactly how that will work in the sense is it going to be
all or nothing - a free for all where you can add/change syntax more
I am well up on the argument of secrecy and that article - falls down in
the first few paragraphs with the vaccines - you probably haven't heard of
the whistleblowers - Gus Grissom comes to mind
Hoping I'm not teaching my granny to suck eggs ... Here is a great article
I remembered reading from a few years ago. It's easy to find on google so
you probably know of it ...
In any case his projects and how he
Maybe all the others but XOJO?
On 5 October 2017 at 12:10, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> Hi Antti,
> I wouldn't class LiveCode along with these Low-Code apps as LC requires a
> lot more code than these offerings mentioned. A different
I feel my IQ goes up by at lest 10 points when I read some of Mark's
detailed answers concerning Livecode internals - and the thought processes
that go into them.
Mark's and many others' answers are worth the price of admission to this
list - thanks a lot Mark for such an erudite
I thought I would post a link to a forum post I made -- Nobody seems to
have a an answer even a simple yes/no
or even a fully fledged Stack with Scott Rossi designed UI it seems ;-)
Better men than me have done this "double posting" - Hi Todd
On 25 May 2017 at 12:33, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
>* Can you post the URL to that video, please?
*>>* On 5/25/17 1:13 pm, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote:
That's why I said the Function part would be good - basically a LIVE
interactive debugger - the coding to do all the rest in a REAL programming
language rather than an animation studio or a testbed is way out of my
league - But given time and money anything is possible Except ..
I was going for PICTURE but now I think Richmond’s FRAME is better. It
takes into account the newbies, encompasses the same thought process as
Bernd’s BLACKBOARD and will stop Jacque killing Mark when there is no
abbreviation, because BLACK is taken.
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 08:53, Richmond
As much as I think revigniter is brilliant at what it does I really think
if this is going to be done it should be done in LC totally.
1. The first reason which you in the fact brought up that we could use
the IDE to debug
2. If PHP can do it why not Livecode?
3. I'm really hating
That's superhuman Monte.
The last time I remember a company making a fix this quick was when I
posted a bug to the Foxpro people (before they were bought out by
It logged on with a 2400 Baud Modem to there "BBS" to get a patched
runtime file back just over 2 hours - probably took
Could this thread be helpful?
and this lesson
Only for Livecode "windows"/stacks though
Failing that, using FFI with C would do it
You need to get
holds money on a whim.
On 5 May 2018 at 01:18, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> On 05/02/2018 11:14 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi All
>> I have set it up - but I want to have the money go d
I sent a Facebook PM to his Son last week - No Answer..
But to make it worse - no donation since last Friday. - come on people!!!
Anyone got his house telephone number?
On 6 May 2018 at 20:18, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
> Mark Wieder
And the donations are getting a boost as well
Thanks to all who have donated - I've sent thank you messages via Gofundme
- I hope I haven't missed anybody.
For all those still on the fence or drinking Starbucks - Please do the
right thing otherwise I might get into Bob Geldolf mode
to the found raising campaign Lagi has started so
> others don’t hesitate to donate.
> On 04/05/18 11:55, "use-livecode on behalf of Lagi Pittas via
> use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
Dan messaged Sean's wife on Facebook yesterday - I found here on facebook
last night and her last post was July of last year I think.
But No News yet.
Any updates Dan?
On 3 May 2018 at 22:18, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> any update on
> No news I'm afraid
> the nature of the message was to the effect that Sean had expressed having
> a difficult day and was he ok, there is a caring community of people that
> are asking after him etc ..
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 a
If your app is for a specific client/company do you put it on the Play
Or is it an app for a company who wants to sell it? -
On 20 May 2018 at 21:06, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> Has anyone released an Android app on
I don't know what sort of images you have but take a look at xara (
Scroll down to the intelligent scaling video - better yet they have a trial.
I think the intelligent scaling might even give you the "safe Zone" that SB
The fact that it is a subscription system is the best protection you have.
Use the simplest protection that will tell you if the system has been
"pirated" - simple encryption of the company/institution address/details
for instance. Don't allow them to change the address/telephone number
Just to be clear - Time trials and demos are a good use of this program -
It was the "copy protection" I was referring to
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 02:24, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode <
> Also, I want to add this: Yummy Interactive who is behind
There are more than a thousand links and there are more than server that
On 29 May 2018 at 18:40, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> Hi Mark,
> I apologize, I had not realized that
First I must say that I am relieved that you are ok - and didn't do
whatyou hinted at. I also admit to being the perpetrator of the heinous
crime of trying to help "one of us" in distress. But no, I didn't send the
I did read your email to the end btw - we do care even if you
I have had the same problem Using old and very new android devices, where
the program will give a blank/black screen on different versions of Android
with no ryme or reason.
Sometimes it works on and older version of android with older hardware and
fails on a phone or tablet with say the
" Windows taskbar can be resize to take up half the
primary screen by the user (we have NOT had any one do that - YET)"
Which reminds me of 3 variants of Murphy's law :-
Nothing can be made foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
Nothing is foolproof for a capable fool.
On 4 June 2018
here's the third one I missed
"Make something idiot-proof, and they will build a better idiot."
It's a losing battle
>> Nothing can be made foolproof because fools are so ingenious.
>> Nothing is foolproof for a capable fool.
>> On 4 June 2018 at 20:51, Paul
The code doesn't need to be available "in the clear" either in Community or
Business in the executable.
So there is nothing stopping us using something like
or a free one here
M, Tom Glod wrote:
> > great suggestion Lagi... thats a great solution for anyone who needs an
> > extra layer of obfuscation on the binaries.
> > Yes indeed...the .livecode files must be made available.
> > On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Lagi Pittas vi
and for those who do want to make totally sure ..
shows you how to modify the UPX compressor so that someone with the source
code (it's open source) will have difficulty.
I don't use it - my copy
What surprises me is you don't let us mental pygmies in on the in joke.
(sorry if that is a hate crime against you Pygmies with internet access)
On 1 June 2018 at 15:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> What surprises me is that I get it.
That should be Intellectual Pygmies - although sometimes mental is closer
to the truth these days.
On 1 June 2018 at 15:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> What surprises me is that I get it. :-)
> Bob S
> > On May 31, 2018, at
How about using the mousestlilldown command and call the mouseup within
On 31 May 2018 at 14:56, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode <
> Well, "rather Android ceding time for that sort of thing."
> While it may not be a LC
I think peter was hinting at the same thing as me in the Forum.
Crowdfunding campaigns of much more expensive products and aims come with
token "We love to help but don't have a use for your product"
I feel your pain really!
Just a question wouldn't the Oauth2 that is built in to LC9 work - maybe
that's the reason it wasn't updated but i'm sure Monty wouldn't be
dismissive - he was once at the coal face (no pun intended).
On 2 May 2018 at 14:00, Pi Digital via
If I wasn't clear as to why I asked the question about gofundme - it's
because people don't want their lives "on social media" and gofundme is
probably as social as it get - lets keep it private between us.
On 2 May 2018 at 17:42, prothero--- via use-livecode <
Sean hasn't accepted the invitation yet but we have to do this.
here is the link it is all anonymous - no mention of SEan on the site.
Kindest Regards Lagi
use-livecode mailing list
I just setup a gofundme site - Never done it before but Can anyone tell me
do we have to put Sean's name on it - what shall I call the page?
Talk like that makes me shiver. I have a mate in Canada - he had his card
account and paypal compromised a week or so ago - rent was due no money
> William A. Prothero
> > On May 2, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
> email@example.com> wrote:
> > Hi All
> > I just setup a gofundme site - Never done it before but Can anyone tell
I too think Scotts stuff is a cut above. I bought tm1 and 2 with no usage
in mind just because they looked so good - they were never used
just played with, somewhere in that code there are going to be nuggets for
If you go to tactilemedia now it goes to scottrossi.design -
I phoned a couple of times yesterday on gis mobile.
Phoned today on his mobile and Landline - both no answer
Also emailed him
His contact details are here.
34 Victoria Road
Chatham, Kent. ME4 5EL
t +44 (0) 1634 402193
m +44 (0) 7702 116447
The link is
I Didn't want to mention Sean by Name
I will be posting a message in the beginners section of the forum - after
my "prose" has been looked at by Mike.
Just to reiterate only Sean or his family would be able to withdraw money
Please go here and read this in the forums if you are still on the fence.
I have phoned 6 or 7 times both landline and mobile - no response - I hope
he is just "thinking".
I make no apologies for being pushy. I don't think Sean was being Flippant.
We cannot know what his state of mind is.
ABLENAME(fieldname1, fieldname2) SELECT
> fieldname1, fieldname2 FROM CONTACTS.TABLENAME;
> Alternatively, you might just create a copy of the table from the first db,
> to create a table in the second db and then alter the table to add the
> missing columns. Not sure which would be better/more ef
Just tried to start work (using 6.7.11) and I got an activation box come up
saying the sessiion has lapsed.
Tried it also on my MAC just in case ... no go.
So I went to my LC9 DP 11 and again "The session has lapsed - try again".
and it wouldn't automatically activate.
So I go to the
; Hi Lagi,
> We are working on that. As a workaround, turn off Internet access, launch
> LC, and then turn Internet access on again.
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
> firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
file would be a real boon - It doesn't happen often (now)
thank god but when it does it can save hours of time.
On 24 January 2018 at 18:52, Brian Milby <br...@milby7.com> wrote:
> Are you talking about the binary format of a stack file?
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:35
I have rethunked overnight and I'm not sure whether the stack was "sort of
corrupted" but working and might have something to do with it. I am under
pressure with some deadlines till the middle of next week but I will take
out an older version of the stack that was not corrupted and see
I have just spent a good few hours "playing" - I wished - with the Text
formatting of field.
Specifically It was on LC9 but I then installed 8.1.8 and the problem is on
there as well.
The problem was that all new fields (and old fields) a card had the "BOLD"
textstyle try as I might I
There is NO reason at all for there not to be a backup activation server
with a downloads directory to boot - cost is not prohibitive $8 a month or
so on HostM or $5 a month on digital ocean if a Virtual Server is needed.
On 15 February 2018 at 07:57, Dave Kilroy via use-livecode <
One thing that is REALLY missing is a widget to print from Android -
specifically Receipt printers preferably via bluetooth and via Wifi -
both for people out and about on business, either having a portable
It seems google cloudprint doesnt have any reciept printers
I used (without the gif)
The above is not case sensitive - just tested it
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 14:45, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> (?i) turn off case sensitivity for everything after it in the regex
> expression. (?-i)
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