Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
AR QuickLook is probably what is needed on iOS. Introduced at WWDC 2018. I would imagine that it could be done with a widget. Not sure for Android. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode > wrote: > > Ikea's app does this. Many other apps also provide an in-app AR expierence. > How are they doing it? And how can I do this in my LC app? > > -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Ikea's app does this. Many other apps also provide an in-app AR expierence. How are they doing it? And how can I do this in my LC app? -Dan On 6/30/20, 9:44 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" wrote: On 2020-06-30 15:46, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: > Klaus, > > No, mobile. If I open the link (https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html) in > Safari on my iPhone, I get total interaction with the AR (Augmented > Reality) object. If I open the same URL in a LiveCode browser (native > or widget) it doesn't open the object at all. It seems that WKWebView (which is the embeddable browser framework on iOS, and the only one*) does not support AR files - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60685400/ar-images-not-working-inside-the-wkwebview. Warmest Regards, Mark. * On iOS there is only allowed to be one browser framework - the one Apple provides. Chrome and Firefox (and all other 'alternative' browsers) are just 'familiar' UI wrappers around WKWebView. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
On 2020-06-30 15:46, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Klaus, No, mobile. If I open the link (https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html) in Safari on my iPhone, I get total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) object. If I open the same URL in a LiveCode browser (native or widget) it doesn't open the object at all. It seems that WKWebView (which is the embeddable browser framework on iOS, and the only one*) does not support AR files - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60685400/ar-images-not-working-inside-the-wkwebview. Warmest Regards, Mark. * On iOS there is only allowed to be one browser framework - the one Apple provides. Chrome and Firefox (and all other 'alternative' browsers) are just 'familiar' UI wrappers around WKWebView. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Just checked an my LG v20 is not on the supported list. I’m on Android 7 and have held off going to 8 because of a couple of v8 bugs on the LG v20. A this point I might just bite the Android 8 bullet to get AR ability. The v20 is not on the supported list but v8 should run AR. I also hang on to the LG V20 because it has both an SD card and removable battery. I do a lot of backwoods hiking and having a spare battery is as comforting as my having my compass. Thanks for the push to upgrade. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:05 AM To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net; 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser? Ralph, On my old Moto it didn’t work. However, one of the guys in my weekly poker game has a Note 10. I opened that url on his Note 10 last night and it did the whole AR thing correctly. -Dan _ From: Ralph DiMola Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:00 AM To: Dan Friedman; 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: RE: AR in LiveCode Browser? It looks like I was wrong about what engine is used for the browser widget(see Mark's comment) I commented after I tried it on my Android phone with Chrome. All I got was a request for a download of the usdz file. Talked before I fully investigated (ask Margaret about that). I thought that the browser would directly open the AR. I'm a little fuzzy on how to open and view these AR's. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:47 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser? Ralph, I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone. It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) object. But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget). -Dan On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com%20on%20behalf%20of%20use-livec...@lists.runrev.com> > wrote: The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files. This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some licensing issues(money). Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dan Friedman Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser? I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! If I open it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR. Is the a limitation of LC? Or do I have to flip a switch somewhere? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Ralph, On my old Moto it didn’t work. However, one of the guys in my weekly poker game has a Note 10. I opened that url on his Note 10 last night and it did the whole AR thing correctly. -Dan From: Ralph DiMola Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:00 AM To: Dan Friedman; 'How to use LiveCode' Subject: RE: AR in LiveCode Browser? It looks like I was wrong about what engine is used for the browser widget(see Mark's comment) I commented after I tried it on my Android phone with Chrome. All I got was a request for a download of the usdz file. Talked before I fully investigated (ask Margaret about that). I thought that the browser would directly open the AR. I'm a little fuzzy on how to open and view these AR's. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:47 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser? Ralph, I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone. It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) object. But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget). -Dan On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" wrote: The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files. This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some licensing issues(money). Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dan Friedman Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser? I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! If I open it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR. Is the a limitation of LC? Or do I have to flip a switch somewhere? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?
It looks like I was wrong about what engine is used for the browser widget(see Mark's comment) I commented after I tried it on my Android phone with Chrome. All I got was a request for a download of the usdz file. Talked before I fully investigated (ask Margaret about that). I thought that the browser would directly open the AR. I'm a little fuzzy on how to open and view these AR's. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:47 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser? Ralph, I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone. It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) object. But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget). -Dan On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" wrote: The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files. This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some licensing issues(money). Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dan Friedman Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser? I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! If I open it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR. Is the a limitation of LC? Or do I have to flip a switch somewhere? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Klaus, No, mobile. If I open the link (https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html) in Safari on my iPhone, I get total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) object. If I open the same URL in a LiveCode browser (native or widget) it doesn't open the object at all. -Dan On 6/30/20, 2:08 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k via use-livecode" wrote: Hi Dan, > Am 30.06.2020 um 01:47 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode : > > I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! if I open that url in Safari, the .USDZ file gets downloaded and not displayed in Safari. However I can open (and interact with) the file with QuickLook or even Preview. We are talking about Desktop, aren't we? Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Ralph, I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone. It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) object. But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget). -Dan On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" wrote: The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files. This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some licensing issues(money). Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dan Friedman Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser? I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! If I open it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR. Is the a limitation of LC? Or do I have to flip a switch somewhere? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Thanks Mark I have submitted a bug report for a documentation enhancement. https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22811 Martin > On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > It is on Mac, Android and iOS... Windows and Linux use CEF (which is derived > from Chromium - which Chrome is also derived from, albeit separately). > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > -- > Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Everyone can create apps > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
On 2020-06-30 12:38, KOOB via use-livecode wrote: That should be in the documentation. I looked at the dictionary for Browser Widget and it didn't mention the browser engine it was using. I just assumed it was native to the platform it was being used on. It is on Mac, Android and iOS... Windows and Linux use CEF (which is derived from Chromium - which Chrome is also derived from, albeit separately). Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Hi Ralph Thanks for the info. > The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. > When looking for LC Browser > compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the > time it works in the LC browser widget. That should be in the documentation. I looked at the dictionary for Browser Widget and it didn't mention the browser engine it was using. I just assumed it was native to the platform it was being used on. Martin Sent from my iPad > On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files. > This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser > compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the > time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from > being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some > licensing issues(money). > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Dan Friedman > Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser? > > I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode > browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) > doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this > URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! If I open > it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR. Is the a limitation of LC? Or > do I have to flip a switch somewhere? > > Thanks in advance! > -Dan > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
It would have been helpful for the uninitiated like myself if you had explained that 'AR' menat 'Augmented Reality' and that you were referring to USDZ files. https://developer.apple.com/augmented-reality/quick-look/ As Klaus stated; I can view that thing in Preview, but NOT in Waterfox (Firefox side-job), so expecting that to be displayed in the LC browser is probably expecting a bit much. Richmond. On 30.06.20 12:07, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi Dan, Am 30.06.2020 um 01:47 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode : I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! if I open that url in Safari, the .USDZ file gets downloaded and not displayed in Safari. However I can open (and interact with) the file with QuickLook or even Preview. We are talking about Desktop, aren't we? Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?
Hi Dan, > Am 30.06.2020 um 01:47 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode > : > > I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode > browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) > doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this > URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! if I open that url in Safari, the .USDZ file gets downloaded and not displayed in Safari. However I can open (and interact with) the file with QuickLook or even Preview. We are talking about Desktop, aren't we? Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?
The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files. This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some licensing issues(money). Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dan Friedman Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser? I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! If I open it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR. Is the a limitation of LC? Or do I have to flip a switch somewhere? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AR in LiveCode Browser?
I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have access to the native AR features. For example, if I open this URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! If I open it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR. Is the a limitation of LC? Or do I have to flip a switch somewhere? Thanks in advance! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode