Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
AR QuickLook is probably what is needed on iOS.  Introduced at WWDC 2018.  I 
would imagine that it could be done with a widget.  Not sure for Android.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ikea's app does this.  Many other apps also provide an in-app AR expierence. 
>   How are they doing it?   And how can I do this in my LC app?
> 
> -Dan

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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Ikea's app does this.  Many other apps also provide an in-app AR expierence.   
How are they doing it?   And how can I do this in my LC app?

-Dan



On 6/30/20, 9:44 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Waddingham via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

On 2020-06-30 15:46, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote:
> Klaus,
> 
> No, mobile.  If I open the link (https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html) in
> Safari on my iPhone, I get total interaction with the AR (Augmented
> Reality) object.  If I open the same URL in a LiveCode browser (native
> or widget) it doesn't open the object at all.

It seems that WKWebView (which is the embeddable browser framework on 
iOS, and the only one*) does not support AR files - 

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60685400/ar-images-not-working-inside-the-wkwebview.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

* On iOS there is only allowed to be one browser framework - the one 
Apple provides. Chrome and Firefox (and all other 'alternative' 
browsers) are just 'familiar' UI wrappers around WKWebView.

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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2020-06-30 15:46, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote:

Klaus,

No, mobile.  If I open the link (https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html) in
Safari on my iPhone, I get total interaction with the AR (Augmented
Reality) object.  If I open the same URL in a LiveCode browser (native
or widget) it doesn't open the object at all.


It seems that WKWebView (which is the embeddable browser framework on 
iOS, and the only one*) does not support AR files - 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60685400/ar-images-not-working-inside-the-wkwebview.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

* On iOS there is only allowed to be one browser framework - the one 
Apple provides. Chrome and Firefox (and all other 'alternative' 
browsers) are just 'familiar' UI wrappers around WKWebView.


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RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Just checked an my LG v20 is not on the supported list. I’m on Android 7 and 
have held off going to 8 because of a couple of v8 bugs on the LG v20. A this 
point I might just bite the Android 8 bullet to get AR ability. The v20 is not 
on the supported list but v8 should run AR. I also hang on to the LG V20 
because it has both an SD card and removable battery. I do a lot of backwoods 
hiking and having a spare battery is as comforting as my having my compass. 
Thanks for the push to upgrade.

 

Ralph DiMola

IT Director

Evergreen Information Services

rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

 

From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:05 AM
To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net; 'How to use LiveCode'
Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

 

Ralph,

 

On my old Moto it didn’t work.  However, one of the guys in my weekly poker 
game has a Note 10.  I opened that url on his Note 10 last night and it did the 
whole AR thing correctly.

 

-Dan





  _  

From: Ralph DiMola 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:00 AM
To: Dan Friedman; 'How to use LiveCode'
Subject: RE: AR in LiveCode Browser? 

 

It looks like I was wrong about what engine is used for the browser widget(see 
Mark's comment) I commented after I tried it on my Android phone with Chrome. 
All I got was a request for a download of the usdz file. Talked before I fully 
investigated (ask Margaret about that). I thought that the browser would 
directly open the AR. I'm a little fuzzy on how to open and view these AR's.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:47 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Ralph DiMola
Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

Ralph,

I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone.   
It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) 
object.  But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget).

-Dan
 

On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" 
mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com%20on%20behalf%20of%20use-livec...@lists.runrev.com>
 > wrote:

The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files.
This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser
compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from
being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some
licensing issues(money).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM
    To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Dan Friedman
Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser?

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode
browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget)
doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this
URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open
it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or
do I have to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Ralph,

On my old Moto it didn’t work.  However, one of the guys in my weekly poker 
game has a Note 10.  I opened that url on his Note 10 last night and it did the 
whole AR thing correctly.

-Dan


From: Ralph DiMola 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 8:00 AM
To: Dan Friedman; 'How to use LiveCode'
Subject: RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?

It looks like I was wrong about what engine is used for the browser widget(see 
Mark's comment) I commented after I tried it on my Android phone with Chrome. 
All I got was a request for a download of the usdz file. Talked before I fully 
investigated (ask Margaret about that). I thought that the browser would 
directly open the AR. I'm a little fuzzy on how to open and view these AR's.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:47 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Ralph DiMola
Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

Ralph,

I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone.   
It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) 
object.  But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget).

-Dan


On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files.
This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser
compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from
being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some
licensing issues(money).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
    Cc: Dan Friedman
Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser?

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode
browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget)
doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this
URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open
it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or
do I have to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
It looks like I was wrong about what engine is used for the browser widget(see 
Mark's comment) I commented after I tried it on my Android phone with Chrome. 
All I got was a request for a download of the usdz file. Talked before I fully 
investigated (ask Margaret about that). I thought that the browser would 
directly open the AR. I'm a little fuzzy on how to open and view these AR's.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: Dan Friedman [mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:47 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Ralph DiMola
Subject: Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

Ralph,

I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone.   
It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) 
object.  But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget).

-Dan
 

On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files.
This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser
compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from
being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some
licensing issues(money).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
    Cc: Dan Friedman
Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser?

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode
browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget)
doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this
URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open
it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or
do I have to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Klaus,

No, mobile.  If I open the link (https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html) in Safari 
on my iPhone, I get total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) object.  
If I open the same URL in a LiveCode browser (native or widget) it doesn't open 
the object at all.

-Dan
 

On 6/30/20, 2:08 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Klaus major-k via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Hi Dan,

> Am 30.06.2020 um 01:47 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
:
> 
> I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode 
browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) 
doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this 
URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! 

if I open that url in Safari, the .USDZ file gets downloaded and not 
displayed in Safari.
However I can open (and interact with) the file with QuickLook or even 
Preview.

We are talking about Desktop, aren't we?


Best

Klaus

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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Ralph,

I tried the link in the Google App (which I assume uses Chrome) on my iPhone.   
It worked as expected, with total interaction with the AR (Augmented Reality) 
object.  But, it fails in a LiveCode browser (native or widget).

-Dan
 

On 6/29/20, 6:16 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files.
This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser
compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from
being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some
licensing issues(money).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Dan Friedman
Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser?

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode
browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget)
doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this
URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open
it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or
do I have to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Thanks Mark

I have submitted a bug report for a documentation enhancement.
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22811

Martin


> On Jun 30, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is on Mac, Android and iOS... Windows and Linux use CEF (which is derived 
> from Chromium - which Chrome is also derived from, albeit separately).
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2020-06-30 12:38, KOOB via use-livecode wrote:

That should be in the documentation. I looked at the dictionary for
Browser Widget and it didn't mention the browser engine it was using.
I just assumed it was native to the platform it was being used on.


It is on Mac, Android and iOS... Windows and Linux use CEF (which is 
derived from Chromium - which Chrome is also derived from, albeit 
separately).


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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread KOOB via use-livecode
Hi Ralph

Thanks for the info.

> The LiveCode browser uses Chromium.
> When looking for LC Browser
> compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
> time it works in the LC browser widget.

That should be in the documentation. I looked at the dictionary for Browser 
Widget and it didn't mention the browser engine it was using.  I just assumed 
it was native to the platform it was being used on. 

Martin

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files.
> This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser
> compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
> time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from
> being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some
> licensing issues(money).
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Dan Friedman
> Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser?
> 
> I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode
> browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget)
> doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this
> URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open
> it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or
> do I have to flip a switch somewhere?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> -Dan
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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
It would have been helpful for the uninitiated like myself if you had 
explained that 'AR'

menat 'Augmented Reality' and that you were referring to USDZ files.

https://developer.apple.com/augmented-reality/quick-look/

As Klaus stated; I can view that thing in Preview, but NOT in Waterfox 
(Firefox side-job),
so expecting that to be displayed in the LC browser is probably 
expecting a bit much.


Richmond.

On 30.06.20 12:07, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Dan,


Am 30.06.2020 um 01:47 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
:

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. 
  It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have 
access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this URL 
https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!

if I open that url in Safari, the .USDZ file gets downloaded and not displayed 
in Safari.
However I can open (and interact with) the file with QuickLook or even Preview.

We are talking about Desktop, aren't we?


Best

Klaus

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Re: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-30 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Dan,

> Am 30.06.2020 um 01:47 schrieb Dan Friedman via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode 
> browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) 
> doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this 
> URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great! 

if I open that url in Safari, the .USDZ file gets downloaded and not displayed 
in Safari.
However I can open (and interact with) the file with QuickLook or even Preview.

We are talking about Desktop, aren't we?


Best

Klaus

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RE: AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-29 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
The LiveCode browser uses Chromium. Chrome does not support AR usdz files.
This seems to be an Apple iOS 12+ only format. When looking for LC Browser
compatibility try URLs in Chrome. If the link works in Chrome 99.9% of the
time it works in the LC browser widget. There's no obstacle stopping it from
being implemented in Chrome(therefore Android) but I guess there's some
licensing issues(money).

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 7:48 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Dan Friedman
Subject: AR in LiveCode Browser?

I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode
browser.   It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget)
doesn't have access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this
URL https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open
it in a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or
do I have to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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AR in LiveCode Browser?

2020-06-29 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
I am trying to display and use an AR object in a webpage in a LiveCode browser. 
  It don't work!Feels like the LC browser (native or widget) doesn't have 
access to the native AR features.   For example, if I open this URL 
https://nexen.ehpec.com/usdz.html in Safari, it works great!   If I open it in 
a LC browser, it doesn't launch AR.   Is the a limitation of LC?   Or do I have 
to flip a switch somewhere?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan

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