RE: Launch URL with Link Back to LC App
>Richard Gaskin wrote: >I suppose the question for us is: Why isn't this supported in LC as an option in the Standalone Builder? It is in a way with the "background audio" option in the standalone settings. Enabling will get you rejected if there is no audio played in the app(ask me how I know). This is because the UIBackgroundModes key is set to "audio". I'm not sure but I believe that any timers or call backs(say from tsnet) will lock up the stack or make it go crazy. I think Mark chimed in on this once but I can't find the thread. If the stack is just sitting idle there are no problems. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
This option is not in the Standalone Settings because the engine does not yet support suspend/resume explicitly. IIRC, in the past we had discussed what needs to be done to properly support suspend/resume messages on mobile, and it turned out to be quite tricky, requiring a major rewrite. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > > > Ralph > > > > Thanks, hacking the pList definitely works! > > > > I guess Apple doesn't care, right? > > I would imagine not, since they defined the plist and included that value > for that purpose. > > I suppose the question for us is: Why isn't this supported in LC as an > option in the Standalone Builder? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > Ralph > > Thanks, hacking the pList definitely works! > > I guess Apple doesn't care, right? I would imagine not, since they defined the plist and included that value for that purpose. I suppose the question for us is: Why isn't this supported in LC as an option in the Standalone Builder? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
Glad it worked out for you. Apple has never said a word. I've been using it for 4 years. I think you run into trouble if you have any timers or call backs when the app is in the background. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services Original message From: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Date:01/30/2017 22:18 (GMT-05:00) To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: Re: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App Ralph Thanks, hacking the pList definitely works! I guess Apple doesn't care, right? On 1/30/17, 10:18 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" wrote: JLM, Thanks for the clarification. BR, Another way to do this without using the un-supported plist hack is to save the state of your app before you launch the browser and then restore the app to the saved state when it restarts. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
Ralph Thanks, hacking the pList definitely works! I guess Apple doesn't care, right? On 1/30/17, 10:18 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" wrote: JLM, Thanks for the clarification. BR, Another way to do this without using the un-supported plist hack is to save the state of your app before you launch the browser and then restore the app to the saved state when it restarts. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
JLM, Thanks for the clarification. BR, Another way to do this without using the un-supported plist hack is to save the state of your app before you launch the browser and then restore the app to the saved state when it restarts. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 1:58 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Re: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App On 1/29/17 9:24 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > Is there a way to ensure that the "back button" on any device's web > app, goes back to the card in the stack from which it was invoked by > the "launch ulr" command? This has to do with the default behavior of LC and the OS it runs on. By default, LC mobile apps quit when they are not frontmost. The behavior after that depends on the OS. On Android, the LC app will remain in RAM until the OS needs the memory, at which point it will quit. If the user goes back to the LC app before it has been removed from memory, the user will return to the place it last left off. If the app has been removed, it re-launches to its opening screen. On iOS the app is not retained in RAM, it always quits. Ralph provided the work-around that allows the app to run in the background. It is not supported and can fail depending on what the app does. If you use it, test to make sure it works reliably. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
On 1/29/17 9:24 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Is there a way to ensure that the "back button" on any device's web app, goes back to the card in the stack from which it was invoked by the "launch ulr" command? This has to do with the default behavior of LC and the OS it runs on. By default, LC mobile apps quit when they are not frontmost. The behavior after that depends on the OS. On Android, the LC app will remain in RAM until the OS needs the memory, at which point it will quit. If the user goes back to the LC app before it has been removed from memory, the user will return to the place it last left off. If the app has been removed, it re-launches to its opening screen. On iOS the app is not retained in RAM, it always quits. Ralph provided the work-around that allows the app to run in the background. It is not supported and can fail depending on what the app does. If you use it, test to make sure it works reliably. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Launch URL with Link Back to LC App
BR,
This has been described at the ol' "plist hack":
Look at the package contents of the LC.app version your using. Navigate to the
Contents>Tools>Runtime>iOS folder and set the permissions for write access to
the "Device-x_x" folders. Then edit the "Settings.plist" files and delete the 2
lines.. UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend
${APPLICATION_EXITS_ON_SUSPEND}
Rebuild your app. The app will only close if you "Quit" it by LC script or the
app window is not displayed and iOS needs the memory (although I have never had
the latter happen)
Hope this helps...
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 10:24 PM
To: How LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
Use case is: multiple apps and the local mobile browser, all in a navigable
ecosystem on small devices.
on iOS, you can make an app that does this
1) Open to home screen
2) go to card "Virtual Tours"
3) click on "Gardens"
4) go to another card name "gardens" (just an example)
5) click a button that has a script like
On mouseup
launch url http://www.kauai-botanical-gardens.com
end mouseup
Ok build, load and run on the iPhone…
if you click through in the app to card gardens and click on the link and it
takes you to Safari on iPHone and Chrome on Android.
in iOS you will get a small "< MyApp" in the upper left corner of Safari.
Android of course has it's default back button.
on iOS if you click that button "http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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RE: Launch URL with Link Back to LC App
BR,
This has been described at the ol' "plist hack":
Look at the package contents of the LC.app version your using. Navigate to the
Contents>Tools>Runtime>iOS folder and set the permissions for write access to
the "Device-x_x" folders. Then edit the "Settings.plist" files in those folders
and delete the 2 lines.. UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend
${APPLICATION_EXITS_ON_SUSPEND}
Rebuild your app. The app will only close if you "Quit" it by LC script or the
app window is not displayed and iOS needs the memory (although I have never had
the latter happen)
Hope this helps...
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 10:24 PM
To: How LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: Launch URL with Link Back to LC App
Use case is: multiple apps and the local mobile browser, all in a navigable
ecosystem on small devices.
on iOS, you can make an app that does this
1) Open to home screen
2) go to card "Virtual Tours"
3) click on "Gardens"
4) go to another card name "gardens" (just an example)
5) click a button that has a script like
On mouseup
launch url http://www.kauai-botanical-gardens.com
end mouseup
Ok build, load and run on the iPhone…
if you click through in the app to card gardens and click on the link and it
takes you to Safari on iPHone and Chrome on Android.
in iOS you will get a small "< MyApp" in the upper left corner of Safari.
Android of course has it's default back button.
on iOS if you click that button "http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Launch URL with LInk Back to LC App
Use case is: multiple apps and the local mobile browser, all in a navigable ecosystem on small devices. on iOS, you can make an app that does this 1) Open to home screen 2) go to card "Virtual Tours" 3) click on "Gardens" 4) go to another card name "gardens" (just an example) 5) click a button that has a script like On mouseup launch url http://www.kauai-botanical-gardens.com end mouseup Ok build, load and run on the iPhone… if you click through in the app to card gardens and click on the link and it takes you to Safari on iPHone and Chrome on Android. in iOS you will get a small "< MyApp" in the upper left corner of Safari. Android of course has it's default back button. on iOS if you click that button "http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
