Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Thanks for this heads up, I'm currently working on 2 apps...one in LC one
in Flutter.

These are my first 2 mobile apps, and I am already sick of Apple and their


I wish we could do what Rick said.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 9:30 AM Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Sorry you were unable to convince them to give up iPhone compatibility.
>
> I was lucky that I developed a couple of my apps to look great with a black
> background before there was dark mode!
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rick
>
> > On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:57 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I tried that and managed to avoid iOS for several years. Unfortunately
> clients demanded iPhone compatibility and I couldn't convince them
> otherwise. So here I am, realizing all over again what a pain it is to
> develop on that platform.
> >
> > The only good thing was that iPhone screen sizes were consistent, but
> they took that away too.
> > --
> > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> > On March 4, 2020 6:17:17 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The easiest solution is for everyone to immediately stop developing
> apps for iOS.
> >> That will definitely get Apple’s attention.  Developers are sick of all
> the stupid
> >> requirements Apple constantly throws at us for our apps.  Any apps we
> >> develop that we put into their store always gets buried in the piles
> and piles
> >> of apps there.  If you just develop for macOS well at least you can
> avoid
> >> most of the screen size requirements.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the update anyway Henry.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
>
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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Sorry you were unable to convince them to give up iPhone compatibility.

I was lucky that I developed a couple of my apps to look great with a black
background before there was dark mode!

Good luck,

Rick

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:57 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I tried that and managed to avoid iOS for several years. Unfortunately 
> clients demanded iPhone compatibility and I couldn't convince them otherwise. 
> So here I am, realizing all over again what a pain it is to develop on that 
> platform.
> 
> The only good thing was that iPhone screen sizes were consistent, but they 
> took that away too.
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On March 4, 2020 6:17:17 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> The easiest solution is for everyone to immediately stop developing apps for 
>> iOS.
>> That will definitely get Apple’s attention.  Developers are sick of all the 
>> stupid
>> requirements Apple constantly throws at us for our apps.  Any apps we
>> develop that we put into their store always gets buried in the piles and 
>> piles
>> of apps there.  If you just develop for macOS well at least you can avoid
>> most of the screen size requirements.
>> 
>> Thanks for the update anyway Henry.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 


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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[JB via use-livecode]

Didn’t Apple say a while ago they were
going to make the ios compatible with
the desktop?

It seems they both use Objective-C the
same way.

JB

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 10:28 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> We replaced UIWebView with WKWebView in 9.6-DP-1.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5 Mar 2020, at 02:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got a warning today, building with LC 9.5.1.
>> 
>> --
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>> On March 4, 2020 7:14:43 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> UIWebView is being replaced by WKWebView. I think LC uses WKWebView or we
>>> would have been getting warnings on submissions since at least last August.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:35 PM
>>> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>>> Cc: Richard Gaskin
>>> Subject: Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30
>>> 
>>> Jacque wrote:
>>> 
>>>> TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting
>>>> submissions of apps that use UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure I understand the implications there.  Are they offering an
>>> alternative to  , or flat out forbidding anything that renders HTML?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Richard Gaskin
>>> Fourth World Systems
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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I tried that and managed to avoid iOS for several years. Unfortunately 
clients demanded iPhone compatibility and I couldn't convince them 
otherwise. So here I am, realizing all over again what a pain it is to 
develop on that platform.


The only good thing was that iPhone screen sizes were consistent, but they 
took that away too.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On March 4, 2020 6:17:17 PM Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
 wrote:


The easiest solution is for everyone to immediately stop developing apps 
for iOS.
That will definitely get Apple’s attention.  Developers are sick of all the 
stupid

requirements Apple constantly throws at us for our apps.  Any apps we
develop that we put into their store always gets buried in the piles and piles
of apps there.  If you just develop for macOS well at least you can avoid
most of the screen size requirements.

Thanks for the update anyway Henry.

Rick

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, HENRY LOWE via use-livecode 
 wrote:


See: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=03042020b 



"Starting April 30, 2020, all iPhone apps submitted to the App Store must 
be built with the iOS 13 SDK or later."


"Starting April 30, 2020, apps submitted to the App Store must use an Xcode 
storyboard to provide the app’s launch screen. In addition, all apps that 
run on iPhone must support all iPhone screens and all apps that run on iPad 
must support all iPad screens.”


And a reference to Dark Mode: "If you need more time to make your apps look 
fantastic in Dark Mode or if Dark Mode is not suited for your app, you’ll 
need to opt out.”


“…you can temporarily opt out by including the UIUserInterfaceStyle key 
(with a value of Light ) in your app's Info. plist file. Setting this key 
to Light causes the system to ignore the user's preference and always apply 
a light appearance to your app."


See also: https://developer.apple.com/ios/submit/ 




Henry
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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

That explains it, I had to build with 9.5.1 because we had problems with 
the browser widget. (bug 22543)

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On March 5, 2020 12:29:41 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
 wrote:



We replaced UIWebView with WKWebView in 9.6-DP-1.

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Mar 2020, at 02:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


?I got a warning today, building with LC 9.5.1.

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On March 4, 2020 7:14:43 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:


UIWebView is being replaced by WKWebView. I think LC uses WKWebView or we
would have been getting warnings on submissions since at least last August.


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:35 PM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Richard Gaskin
Subject: Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

Jacque wrote:


TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting
submissions of apps that use UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .


I'm not sure I understand the implications there.  Are they offering an
alternative to  , or flat out forbidding anything that renders HTML?

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Fourth World Systems

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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

We replaced UIWebView with WKWebView in 9.6-DP-1.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Mar 2020, at 02:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got a warning today, building with LC 9.5.1.
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> On March 4, 2020 7:14:43 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> UIWebView is being replaced by WKWebView. I think LC uses WKWebView or we
>> would have been getting warnings on submissions since at least last August.
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:35 PM
>> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>> Cc: Richard Gaskin
>> Subject: Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30
>> 
>> Jacque wrote:
>> 
>>> TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting
>>> submissions of apps that use UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .
>> 
>> I'm not sure I understand the implications there.  Are they offering an
>> alternative to  , or flat out forbidding anything that renders HTML?
>> 
>> --
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World Systems
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RE: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I got a warning today, building with LC 9.5.1.

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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On March 4, 2020 7:14:43 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
 wrote:



UIWebView is being replaced by WKWebView. I think LC uses WKWebView or we
would have been getting warnings on submissions since at least last August.


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:35 PM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Richard Gaskin
Subject: Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

Jacque wrote:


TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting
submissions of apps that use UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .


I'm not sure I understand the implications there.  Are they offering an
alternative to  , or flat out forbidding anything that renders HTML?

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Fourth World Systems

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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

There's something called WKWebKit we're supposed to use instead.
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On March 4, 2020 6:37:27 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Jacque wrote:

TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting submissions of 
apps that use

UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .


I'm not sure I understand the implications there.  Are they offering an
alternative to UIWebView, or flat out forbidding anything that renders HTML?

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RE: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

UIWebView is being replaced by WKWebView. I think LC uses WKWebView or we
would have been getting warnings on submissions since at least last August.


Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:35 PM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Richard Gaskin
Subject: Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

Jacque wrote:

> TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting 
> submissions of apps that use UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .

I'm not sure I understand the implications there.  Are they offering an
alternative to  , or flat out forbidding anything that renders HTML?

--
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Fourth World Systems

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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Jacque wrote:

TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting submissions of apps that use 
UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .


I'm not sure I understand the implications there.  Are they offering an 
alternative to UIWebView, or flat out forbidding anything that renders HTML?


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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 3/4/20 3:50 PM, HENRY LOWE via use-livecode wrote:

See: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=03042020b 


"Starting April 30, 2020, all iPhone apps submitted to the App Store must be built 
with the iOS 13 SDK or later."

"Starting April 30, 2020, apps submitted to the App Store must use an Xcode 
storyboard to provide the app’s launch screen. In addition, all apps that run on 
iPhone must support all iPhone screens and all apps that run on iPad must support 
all iPad screens.”

And a reference to Dark Mode: "If you need more time to make your apps look 
fantastic in Dark Mode or if Dark Mode is not suited for your app, you’ll need to 
opt out.”

“…you can temporarily opt out by including the UIUserInterfaceStyle key (with a 
value of Light ) in your app's Info. plist file. Setting this key to Light causes 
the system to ignore the user's preference and always apply a light appearance to 
your app."

See also: https://developer.apple.com/ios/submit/ 



Also this:
TMS-90809: Deprecated API Usage - Apple will stop accepting submissions of apps that use 
UIWebView APIs starting from April 2020 .



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Re: New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

The easiest solution is for everyone to immediately stop developing apps for 
iOS.
That will definitely get Apple’s attention.  Developers are sick of all the 
stupid
requirements Apple constantly throws at us for our apps.  Any apps we
develop that we put into their store always gets buried in the piles and piles
of apps there.  If you just develop for macOS well at least you can avoid
most of the screen size requirements.

Thanks for the update anyway Henry.

Rick

> On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:50 PM, HENRY LOWE via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> See: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=03042020b 
> 
> 
> "Starting April 30, 2020, all iPhone apps submitted to the App Store must be 
> built with the iOS 13 SDK or later."
> 
> "Starting April 30, 2020, apps submitted to the App Store must use an Xcode 
> storyboard to provide the app’s launch screen. In addition, all apps that run 
> on iPhone must support all iPhone screens and all apps that run on iPad must 
> support all iPad screens.”
> 
> And a reference to Dark Mode: "If you need more time to make your apps look 
> fantastic in Dark Mode or if Dark Mode is not suited for your app, you’ll 
> need to opt out.”
> 
> “…you can temporarily opt out by including the UIUserInterfaceStyle key (with 
> a value of Light ) in your app's Info. plist file. Setting this key to Light 
> causes the system to ignore the user's preference and always apply a light 
> appearance to your app."
> 
> See also: https://developer.apple.com/ios/submit/ 
> 
> 
> 
> Henry
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New Apple Developer iOS requirements beginning April 30

[HENRY LOWE via use-livecode]

See: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=03042020b 


"Starting April 30, 2020, all iPhone apps submitted to the App Store must be 
built with the iOS 13 SDK or later."

"Starting April 30, 2020, apps submitted to the App Store must use an Xcode 
storyboard to provide the app’s launch screen. In addition, all apps that run 
on iPhone must support all iPhone screens and all apps that run on iPad must 
support all iPad screens.”

And a reference to Dark Mode: "If you need more time to make your apps look 
fantastic in Dark Mode or if Dark Mode is not suited for your app, you’ll need 
to opt out.”

“…you can temporarily opt out by including the UIUserInterfaceStyle key (with a 
value of Light ) in your app's Info. plist file. Setting this key to Light 
causes the system to ignore the user's preference and always apply a light 
appearance to your app."

See also: https://developer.apple.com/ios/submit/ 



Henry
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