AW: like doing a short test for me?, was: No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
My fault, obviously some people of you, who wanted to make the test couldn'
even play my video. I forgot that a standard Windows machine doesn't have a
codec for h.264 videos on board. So you would have had to install a codec
(like the LAV filters).
I now modified my test program, so that you can choose any of your own video
files on your computer.
So, if you would like to do another test, read below, my previous posting
Thanks
Tiemo


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possible

Hello,

Windows developers only!

since I have no idea, what the reason of my "no screenshot" problem is, I
want to try to compare system configurations of the machines, where this
problem occurs to find with some luck, what they have in common and so
perhaps the source of this issue, though I probably won't see the wood for
the trees. Up to now, I only have two customers with this issue and so it is
hard to search for "exotic" similarities. If you would like to help me and
make a test for me, please download my little test program from 


1. Open the LC 8.1.4 program and klick the left button, it should play a
video, which was unpacked in the same dir as the livecode file in the left
window and make a screenshot in the right window 2. if the right window only
is black (screenshot was not successful), try to make a screenshot with "Alt
Gr" + "Print" of the left video window and paste it into word or other
program to see, if windows can take a screenshot.
3. Do the same with the right button (without videobuffer)

If any of these test cases didn't produced a screenshot of the video, I
would like to get your system informations (I will delete them right after
evaluation) and the notice, which case didn't produced a screenshot. If both
test cases produced a screenshot, you don't have to send me any notice.
You can retrieve the system informations here:
-   press „Windows-Key“ + „R“.
-   type "msinfo32"
-   Choose menu „File - Export“, enter a filename
„Systeminformationen_xy.txt“
-   send me this file as PM

If you have concerns about your privacy, please delete all personal
information from the log file, like your IP number, you name of the machine
or whatever you want.

Thank you for your help.
Tiemo



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Betreff: No screenshot from LC video possible

Hello,

LC 8.1.4, Windows 10

I am using the standard LC videoPayer (directShow) to play H.264 mp4 videos.
One essential feature of my program is, that the user can take screenshots
from the video, edit and save them.

Today I got the second customer call with a Win 10 machine, who can't take
screenshots from my LC videos. The video screen is just black on the taken
screenshot. This issue does not only happen with the build in LiveCode
screenshot feature, but also, if they take a screenshot with the windows
print key or other screenshot tools.

Up to now, this issue happens only at 2 customers, on all other Win 10
machines, taking a video screenshot works fine. The alwaysBuffer of the
videoPlayer is set to false (setting it to true, I don't see any video
playing) I also checked to disable the Kaspersky AV on the client computer
(Kaspersky has a feature to prevent screenshots), but without success. Btw.
the old version of my program with the quicktime player works fine on these
machines.

I googled a lot, but didn't found any related issues in the net, so I
assume, it must be related to the LiveCode implementation of the directShow
videoPlayer. But in combination with any special hardware or software
setting on these two computers.

Has anybody already experienced similar issues or has any shot in the dark,
what system options, drivers, other tools in combination with LiveCode could
have an influence on taking a screenshot?

Any idea, what I could check for is welcome

Tiemo

 

 

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like doing a short test for me?, was: No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-12 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello,

Windows developers only!

since I have no idea, what the reason of my "no screenshot" problem is, I
want to try to compare system configurations of the machines, where this
problem occurs to find with some luck, what they have in common and so
perhaps the source of this issue, though I probably won't see the wood for
the trees. Up to now, I only have two customers with this issue and so it is
hard to search for "exotic" similarities. If you would like to help me and
make a test for me, please download my little test program from http://
www.kestner.de/material/screenshot-test1.livecode

1. Open the LC 8.1.4 program and klick the left button, it should play a
video, which was unpacked in the same dir as the livecode file in the left
window and make a screenshot in the right window
2. if the right window only is black (screenshot was not successful), try to
make a screenshot with "Alt Gr" + "Print" of the left video window and paste
it into word or other program to see, if windows can take a screenshot.
3. Do the same with the right button (without videobuffer)

If any of these test cases didn't produced a screenshot of the video, I
would like to get your system informations (I will delete them right after
evaluation) and the notice, which case didn't produced a screenshot. If both
test cases produced a screenshot, you don't have to send me any notice.
You can retrieve the system informations here:
-   press „Windows-Key“ + „R“.
-   type "msinfo32"
-   Choose menu „File - Export“, enter a filename
„Systeminformationen_xy.txt“
-   send me this file as PM

If you have concerns about your privacy, please delete all personal
information from the log file, like your IP number, you name of the machine
or whatever you want.

Thank you for your help.
Tiemo



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Betreff: No screenshot from LC video possible

Hello,

LC 8.1.4, Windows 10

I am using the standard LC videoPayer (directShow) to play H.264 mp4 videos.
One essential feature of my program is, that the user can take screenshots
from the video, edit and save them.

Today I got the second customer call with a Win 10 machine, who can't take
screenshots from my LC videos. The video screen is just black on the taken
screenshot. This issue does not only happen with the build in LiveCode
screenshot feature, but also, if they take a screenshot with the windows
print key or other screenshot tools.

Up to now, this issue happens only at 2 customers, on all other Win 10
machines, taking a video screenshot works fine. The alwaysBuffer of the
videoPlayer is set to false (setting it to true, I don't see any video
playing) I also checked to disable the Kaspersky AV on the client computer
(Kaspersky has a feature to prevent screenshots), but without success. Btw.
the old version of my program with the quicktime player works fine on these
machines.

I googled a lot, but didn't found any related issues in the net, so I
assume, it must be related to the LiveCode implementation of the directShow
videoPlayer. But in combination with any special hardware or software
setting on these two computers.

Has anybody already experienced similar issues or has any shot in the dark,
what system options, drivers, other tools in combination with LiveCode could
have an influence on taking a screenshot?

Any idea, what I could check for is welcome

Tiemo

 

 

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RE: No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-11 Thread Paul Richards via use-livecode
Although this is for a browser and recommended for use by some banks.  I have 
used this "app/plugin" before on Windows and it does prevent screenshots from 
taking place. 

https://www.trusteer.com/en/support/rapport-installation-links 

I don't know if it would interfere with Livecode, but it might be little 
program like this causing you some pain. 

Paul 


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Subject: AW: No screenshot from LC video possible

Hi Paul, Roger and Hermann,
No DRM involved, all videos are self produced and as Roger said, on most 
machines they are playing fine.
The video never is fullscreen, because it is played in a frame within my LC 
program.
The video card and it's handling of the video buffer is also my guess, but up 
to now, I didn't found an exotic video card on the customer machines and no 
thread about issues capturing video screenshots.
Thanks for your brainstorms
Tiemo


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May be connected to fullscreen mode (=black) or windowed mode (=working).

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AW: No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hi Paul, Roger and Hermann,
No DRM involved, all videos are self produced and as Roger said, on most
machines they are playing fine.
The video never is fullscreen, because it is played in a frame within my LC
program.
The video card and it's handling of the video buffer is also my guess, but
up to now, I didn't found an exotic video card on the customer machines and
no thread about issues capturing video screenshots.
Thanks for your brainstorms
Tiemo


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May be connected to fullscreen mode (=black) or windowed mode (=working).

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Re: No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-11 Thread hh via use-livecode
May be connected to fullscreen mode (=black) or windowed mode (=working).

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Re: No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-11 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
I don't think it's DRM since the OP also said, " Up to now, this issue
happens only at 2 customers, on all other Win 10 machines, taking a video
screenshot works fine."

I'll place my 2 cent bet on the video card.  Look for a common thread like
- the fails happening on Nvidia, ATI, or built-in graphics controllers.

~Roger

On Jul 11, 2017 7:12 AM, "Paul Dupuis via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> My guess is that it could be Digital Rights Management related?
>
> If you can screenshot a DRM protected video then, in principle, you
> could screenshot every frame and encode the frames back into a DRM-free
> version of the video. Do you know what the videos that had the problem
> were?
>
>
> On 7/11/2017 3:20 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > LC 8.1.4, Windows 10
> >
> > I am using the standard LC videoPayer (directShow) to play H.264 mp4
> videos.
> > One essential feature of my program is, that the user can take
> screenshots
> > from the video, edit and save them.
> >
> > Today I got the second customer call with a Win 10 machine, who can't
> take
> > screenshots from my LC videos. The video screen is just black on the
> taken
> > screenshot. This issue does not only happen with the build in LiveCode
> > screenshot feature, but also, if they take a screenshot with the windows
> > print key or other screenshot tools.
> >
> > Up to now, this issue happens only at 2 customers, on all other Win 10
> > machines, taking a video screenshot works fine. The alwaysBuffer of the
> > videoPlayer is set to false (setting it to true, I don't see any video
> > playing) I also checked to disable the Kaspersky AV on the client
> computer
> > (Kaspersky has a feature to prevent screenshots), but without success.
> Btw.
> > the old version of my program with the quicktime player works fine on
> these
> > machines.
> >
> > I googled a lot, but didn't found any related issues in the net, so I
> > assume, it must be related to the LiveCode implementation of the
> directShow
> > videoPlayer. But in combination with any special hardware or software
> > setting on these two computers.
> >
> > Has anybody already experienced similar issues or has any shot in the
> dark,
> > what system options, drivers, other tools in combination with LiveCode
> could
> > have an influence on taking a screenshot?
> >
> > Any idea, what I could check for is welcome
> >
> > Tiemo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-11 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
My guess is that it could be Digital Rights Management related?

If you can screenshot a DRM protected video then, in principle, you
could screenshot every frame and encode the frames back into a DRM-free
version of the video. Do you know what the videos that had the problem were?


On 7/11/2017 3:20 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote:
> Hello,
>
> LC 8.1.4, Windows 10
>
> I am using the standard LC videoPayer (directShow) to play H.264 mp4 videos.
> One essential feature of my program is, that the user can take screenshots
> from the video, edit and save them.
>
> Today I got the second customer call with a Win 10 machine, who can't take
> screenshots from my LC videos. The video screen is just black on the taken
> screenshot. This issue does not only happen with the build in LiveCode
> screenshot feature, but also, if they take a screenshot with the windows
> print key or other screenshot tools.
>
> Up to now, this issue happens only at 2 customers, on all other Win 10
> machines, taking a video screenshot works fine. The alwaysBuffer of the
> videoPlayer is set to false (setting it to true, I don't see any video
> playing) I also checked to disable the Kaspersky AV on the client computer
> (Kaspersky has a feature to prevent screenshots), but without success. Btw.
> the old version of my program with the quicktime player works fine on these
> machines.
>
> I googled a lot, but didn't found any related issues in the net, so I
> assume, it must be related to the LiveCode implementation of the directShow
> videoPlayer. But in combination with any special hardware or software
> setting on these two computers.
>
> Has anybody already experienced similar issues or has any shot in the dark,
> what system options, drivers, other tools in combination with LiveCode could
> have an influence on taking a screenshot?
>
> Any idea, what I could check for is welcome
>
> Tiemo
>
>  
>
>  
>
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No screenshot from LC video possible

2017-07-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello,

LC 8.1.4, Windows 10

I am using the standard LC videoPayer (directShow) to play H.264 mp4 videos.
One essential feature of my program is, that the user can take screenshots
from the video, edit and save them.

Today I got the second customer call with a Win 10 machine, who can't take
screenshots from my LC videos. The video screen is just black on the taken
screenshot. This issue does not only happen with the build in LiveCode
screenshot feature, but also, if they take a screenshot with the windows
print key or other screenshot tools.

Up to now, this issue happens only at 2 customers, on all other Win 10
machines, taking a video screenshot works fine. The alwaysBuffer of the
videoPlayer is set to false (setting it to true, I don't see any video
playing) I also checked to disable the Kaspersky AV on the client computer
(Kaspersky has a feature to prevent screenshots), but without success. Btw.
the old version of my program with the quicktime player works fine on these
machines.

I googled a lot, but didn't found any related issues in the net, so I
assume, it must be related to the LiveCode implementation of the directShow
videoPlayer. But in combination with any special hardware or software
setting on these two computers.

Has anybody already experienced similar issues or has any shot in the dark,
what system options, drivers, other tools in combination with LiveCode could
have an influence on taking a screenshot?

Any idea, what I could check for is welcome

Tiemo

 

 

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