Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

In my view, programming is different from, say: applying scientific reasoning to solve a problem. If we think of what "tools" are available to address a particular problem, the tools of a software language are prescribed, limited, and require specific knowledge of terminology and what can be

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

Allow me to be the devil's advocate here. Most people want step by step instructions. From the perspective of teaching though, this is perhaps the worst injustice you can inflict upon their education. UNDERSTANDING is what they need, and step by step memorization of a process really does

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

Indeed: And I'm always teaching others BY making mistakes! Richmond. On 9/19/17 2:04 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Awesome! I'm always teaching others to make mistakes! Bob S On Sep 18, 2017, at 16:00 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

Awesome! I'm always teaching others to make mistakes! Bob S > On Sep 18, 2017, at 16:00 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Exactly. I always emphasize that the best way to learn is by making mistakes. > > ...or by trying to teach someone else... >

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

On 09/18/2017 09:07 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: One of the most interesting ideas I’ve heard recently, in education, is the idea that it’s very important to emphasize the “struggle” to learn. If students can learn that the “struggle" to acquire knowledge and understanding is

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

Thanks, Richmond! This brings me to another thought I’ve been having. I’m retired now, but still doing education projects as a hobby. What I would really love to be involved in is an interest group whose goal is to create and distribute innovative education applications in livecode. I know

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

Wow: Bill . . . you have put your point so very well: that should be engraved on stone and tattooed onto every teacher's head! Thanks so much. Richmond. On 9/18/17 7:07 pm, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: Folks: Because livecode is so relevant for education, I suppose this is a

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

Folks: Because livecode is so relevant for education, I suppose this is a reasonable discussion for the users list. So, I will add another 2 cents. One of the most interesting ideas I’ve heard recently, in education, is the idea that it’s very important to emphasize the “struggle” to learn. If

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

Reading through that article, I get the sense that he believes that people are not educated or intellegent because the system of education is wholly responsible for failing to do so. Intellegent people often make this miscalculation, that they believe intellegence is something that can be

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

I agree for the most part. At this point, my hope is that people will clean the slate and kick everyone currently in office to the curb. Won't happen of course. Honestly though, I don't see how ANY politician, no matter how well intention-ed can get through the process of attaining office

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

One of my beefs with Miscrosoft is all the times they butt in and try to help me when I am trying to get something done. I liken their systems to the little brother who kept tagging along wanting to help, yanking on my pants leg, and all he really did was get in the way and force me to deal

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

The system is sound. The politicians who only subscibe to the rule of law when it suits their cause, and not otherwise are the problem. And also people who keep voting for the politicians who demonstrate such a degree of irresponsibility are to blame. The actual system works wonderfully, so

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Whole political system of the USA is sick. Sent from Solidit On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 6:09 PM +0200, "prothero--- via use-livecode" wrote: A very thought-provoking read especially about culture and how we are taught in our schools. It makes me

Re: [OT] Alan Kay is angry

A very thought-provoking read especially about culture and how we are taught in our schools. It makes me wonder if some of the folks who aren't concerned about "truth" in American politics (including it's relationship to science) these days are a result of an educational system that too often

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Thank you, Alejandro, All my upper-intermediate pupils will be going through this article in class this week. Richmond. On 9/17/17 6:37 am, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote: Read the interview: