Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-17 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
There are several reports, which Panos has now combined into one (18363). The idea of changing the arrangement of the two monitors in the System Prefs so that the tops are aligned is a pretty sad workaround, because of course the System Prefs settings are supposed to reflect the monitor

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-17 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
panagiotis merakos wrote: > Just to add that when you change the arrangement of the two monitors > in the System Prefs so as their tops are aligned, it might be worth to > reset your LC Prefs as well after that, as it might be the case that > some stacks have kept their *old* rect Prefs (i.e.

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-17 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Just to add that when you change the arrangement of the two monitors in the System Prefs so as their tops are aligned, it might be worth to reset your LC Prefs as well after that, as it might be the case that some stacks have kept their *old* rect Prefs (i.e. *before* the monitors' arrangement

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-17 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That is my experience as well, although it takes some getting used to when moving the mouse from one monitor to the other, because the mouse and anything you are dragging doesn't appear where you expect it naturally should. It bugged me so much that I wrote handlers to record the stack

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-17 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I believe this is a known issue. A workaround is to set the rect of your stack to the screenRect on preOpenStack in the card script of the first card. Bob S > On Jan 14, 2018, at 12:38 , MWCM via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have an issue that isn’t exactly

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-15 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
Hi all - this is how I arrange my screens (also pretty much how they are physically) I'm running a 2014 15" mbp on High Sierra and my two external monitors are the special LG 5k ones (with thunderbolt 2

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
You should see what happens with three monitors on version 9 -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:34 PM, Kay C Lan via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I should have also noted that I didn't see the problem with a small >

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Kay C Lan via use-livecode
I should have also noted that I didn't see the problem with a small misalignment of the tops in the Display Preference Pane; the tops had to be quite far apart. Also, what was strange was that just because the additional monitors may have been set to above the central MBP in the Display Preference

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Kay C Lan via use-livecode
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:14 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: > > This is the essence of the issue - there may be other variants with the Tool > palette etc but I’m trying to keep it simple. > After some testing I can confirm it's exactly the same as the

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Mark wrote: screenRects: the first is primary and the rest are relative to that. Any engine issue will likely be to do with those rects as that is the basis of its display coord to LiveCode coord mapping. with screenrects at 0,0,3440,1440 -1440,0,0,900 tops are aligned… and …hmmm…

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Not to go into detail, but I have not seen any problems using two monitors with a variety of mainstream Mac software, e.g Photoshop Elements, Pages, MS Word, MS Excel, Transmit etc etc. Maybe I’m just lucky, but it’s certainly LC that’s giving me the biggest headache at the moment. Good tip

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread MWCM via use-livecode
I have an issue that isn’t exactly the same but may be related. Seldom do I work on two monitors, but my display configuration is constantly changing. My primary development machine is a 15” Retina MacBook Pro. The main project I work on is a large stack (iPhone 7 native resolution) stack that

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Paul Hibbert via use-livecode
Just to add to the mix, I have been using a two monitor system for many years, I now have an iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017) connected to an Eizo ColorEdge CG 241W, the iMac is 4096 x 2304 and the Eizo is 1920 x 1200, both driven by the same Radeon Pro 560 4 GB card. Both monitors are set to

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
BR: I'm late to this party, but FWIW Graham wrote: Does anyone else see this or know of any report? BR: yes, all the time, no recipe but it's so bad I don't *ever* put any liveCode stack on my MacBook Pro monitor -- which is designated as the secondary monitor when hooked up to the 31" curved

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Apologies - I misread - actually one thing to check here is what 'the screenRects' returns. This returns a list of rects representing different screens - the first is primary and the rest are relative to that. Any engine issue will likely be to do with those rects as that is the basis of its

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks Mark for wading in. Well, it might be the mixture of screens - in fact I think that may well be it, because I have another development configuration with a non-Retina iMac and a similar monitor to the one I’ve described, and I have never seen a problem. Sadly, that’s about 1000 km South

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Mark, i did not wrote that i have to Retina displays. I am using an iMAc 5K and a Apple Thunderbolt Display, which is 2560x1440. The only difference is that my displays use different spaces. That´s an option in Systemcontrol->Mission Control Matthias Matthias Rebbe Tel +49 5741 31

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
I wonder if it is the mix between retina and non-retina screens which is causing the problem. I notice Mattias mentioned he couldn't reproduce with two retina screens, but both you and graham have a mixed setup? Warmest Regards, Mark. P.S. There's clearly a problem here in the engine if hit

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-14 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Hi Brian Well I tried to line up the tops of the two displays using the Mac Control Panel and restarted LC. This did have an interesting effect, in that the windows on the monitor are now accepting mouse clicks, but there is still some very weird stuff, in particular I have a substack with

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-13 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
@Graham, to determine if the 2 are related to the same underlying issue, you should adjust your monitor layout so that the tops align. If the problem goes away, then they are related (even if not identical). If the problem doesn’t go away, then it is a new issue. That will be something that is

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-13 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Yes, of course it’s an OS thing really. I think it’s reasonable to want the Mac control panel configuration to mimic the physical arrangement I actually have. If I don’t do this, I’m always trying to make the mouse go somewhere which the Mac doesn’t see as part of the screen real estate. Since

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
It isn't the physical position of the monitors, it's how you arrange them in the Mac control panel. This allows you to set the virtual position of the two displays relative to each other. If I remember right, problems are avoided if you drag the two monitor images so that the tops are

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-13 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Hi Matthias Your solution sounds interesting, but to me it’s just a workaround. I simply want more screen real estate for debugging - so as far as I can see, using different spaces would provide that. After reading what Martin Koob has to say, I’m pretty certain that there really is a bug.

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-13 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks Martin - yes I do have a Mac Book Pro Retina, and since it’s normally on my desk with the monitor on a stand, the monitor is above the MacBook as you say. My search for bugs related to this didn’t turn up anything relevant: maybe I don’t understand how to do searches for unresolved bugs

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-13 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Graham, i followed your steps here on my system (iMac 5K and Thunderbolt display). It works here without problems. Maybe it works here, because i have setup that my monitors use different spaces. You can set this in SystemControl->MissionControl. I do not know the exact english expression as

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-13 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
I have experienced problems with dual monitors attached to my Mac Book Pro Retina with LC 8 and posted bugs. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19300 http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19302 There are links on 19302 to other bugs I thought might be related.