Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Thanks Richard - for sure I will implement this on the server side.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2017, at 3:50 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> jonathandlynch wrote:
> 
> > I do need to make password recovery an option.
> 
> Please don't.
> 
> Reset is good, but recovery means the password is stored in the system, which 
> is generally no longer done.  Instead only a hash of the password is stored, 
> which allows it to be reset but never recovered.
> 
> Peter Brett posted some notes here on hashing passwords a while back:
> http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-March/235091.html
> 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

jonathandlynch wrote:

> I do need to make password recovery an option.

Please don't.

Reset is good, but recovery means the password is stored in the system, 
which is generally no longer done.  Instead only a hash of the password 
is stored, which allows it to be reset but never recovered.


Peter Brett posted some notes here on hashing passwords a while back:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-March/235091.html

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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

On 11/07/2017 19:18, prothero--- via use-livecode wrote:

Jonathon,
Re password changing. If someone has forgotten their password, what most sites 
do is send a reset link to a registered email. For even better security, a code 
is sent to the user's message system, which must be received and entered before 
reset can be accomplished.

Actually, I disagree with "For even better security,..."

My email comes via my server, under my control.

SMS messages come via some mobile phone operator - and there have been 
multiple well-proven cases of operators demonstrating *very* poor 
security - you call them up, say you've lost your phone and would like 
your phone number switched to your new phone/SIM. They ask you some 
security questions (anyone think they could find my address and 
birthdate ?) - and then switch the phone number to the new SIM. And then 
the fraudster gets all SMS messages from your bank, websites, etc., and 
you don't.


[In the UK, they are *supposed* to use the higher level of security 
questioning - but sometimes don't, and are sometimes vulnerable to 
special pleading and feeling sorry for the apparent loss-victim. see for 
instance


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/11896024/How-to-protect-yourself-from-SIM-swap-scams.html

So I'd prefer to stick to email verifications :-)

Alex.

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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

As it stands right now - they do not have to reenter their password. If they 
are logged in, they just change it and submit changes.

But, if they are logged they can see their password at any time.

The version I am submitting on Thursday makes the process more obvious.

I do need to make password recovery an option. This app has so many facets, I 
just have not gotten to that yet. I will do that before I have a promotable 
version.

I made the choice not to require email addresses, but we will see how long that 
lasts. If someone does not remember their password and did not enter an email 
address, they won't have a recovery mechanism.

The libertarian in me wants to impose a few restrictions as possible, but the 
realist in me thinks the trolls will become too problematic.

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> On Jul 11, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/07/2017 19:18, prothero--- via use-livecode wrote:
>> If a person has logged in, and wants to change their password, I don't see 
>> why they would be required to enter their old password, but they must know 
>> it, or,they wouldn't have been able to log in.
>> 
> That's done to prevent someone else changing the password if the screen has 
> been left unattended.
> 
> Alex.
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

On 11/07/2017 19:18, prothero--- via use-livecode wrote:

If a person has logged in, and wants to change their password, I don't see why 
they would be required to enter their old password, but they must know it, 
or,they wouldn't have been able to log in.

That's done to prevent someone else changing the password if the screen 
has been left unattended.


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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[prothero--- via use-livecode]

Jonathon,
Re password changing. If someone has forgotten their password, what most sites 
do is send a reset link to a registered email. For even better security, a code 
is sent to the user's message system, which must be received and entered before 
reset can be accomplished. 

If a person has logged in, and wants to change their password, I don't see why 
they would be required to enter their old password, but they must know it, 
or,they wouldn't have been able to log in.

My 2 cents,
Bill P

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Jul 11, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Lagi,
> 
> Thank you for your feedback!
> I have changed it so that the initial mode does exactly what you said - it 
> has two options that allow the user to choose to create a new user or sign in.
> 
> From there it only reveals the fields and buttons that are appropriate for 
> whether the user is logging in, logged in, creating a new user, or editing 
> their information.
> 
> I am going to update the app on iTunes on Thursday. The core of the app seems 
> to be strong, but the user interface clearly was lacking :(
> 
> I spent a lot more time working on figuring out the 3D map - I am going to 
> make the interface smooth before I do any promotion.
> 
> I think we have to require using the current password to change the password, 
> to prevent hacking.
> 
> I made notes of you other observations as well.
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> 
>> I've tried to to login to the app from an iphone 6 ios 10.3.2
>> 
>> Ive restarted it a couple of time but always the same.
>> 
>> The Username and Password field asre white and enabled - I enter the
>> details but no other field is enabled.
>> 
>> 
>> Now some feedback.
>> 
>> My pet peeve (it happened on a subscription site 2 days ago so I'm still
>> smarting from the experience ;-)
>> 
>> 1. I have never understood why anybody asks for the original password to
>> change the one you have either forgotten or never received in the email.
>> You are in good (bad?) company Skype does this but also ties you in nots
>> with nobody to talk to.
>> 
>> 2. There are TOO many fields on the login page - there should be 2 Big
>> Buttons at the top Create New Account ./ Sign In.
>> 
>> In fact off the top of my head, download the UDEMY app to see what I think
>> is very simple and clear.
>> 
>> You can ask for all the rest on the second page but also have a SKIP if
>> we/they don't want to enter the other info just yet.
>> 
>> 3. The app seems to know it has been run for a second time because the help
>> screen doesnt come up - so again you can leave it logged in even if they
>> exit the program.
>> 
>> 4. I would allow a user name and or an email address for logging in
>> 
>> 5. The (H) and (S) after the password and new password  have no clue that
>> they are clickable the (S) on the New password is not enabled.
>> That bit again is not obvious without clicking. The Words 
>> would have fitted with no problem - and in a different colour or as a
>> button.
>> 
>> 6. Why is the select user Icon showing when there is nothing to select?
>> Would that show something after I put in my email or logged in in which
>> case it just adds to the confusion. I pressed a few times to see if
>> anything would load.
>> 
>> 7. You have Screen Name and Username - Until i looked to the Bottom where
>> it says screen name I assumed the username was my login name (or is it?).
>> 
>> I was typing not my full name but a Username (1 word) - The Username (or
>> Email) that is used to login should be together and First unless the first
>> line says . It is not obvious if you expect a first name and
>> last name - I presume it doesn't matter.
>> 
>> 8. To reiterate because this to me is the crux none of the other fields
>> except the signup field need to be on the front page - "Show me the Banana"
>> as Steve Krug says and "Don't Make me think" as Seth Godin says.
>> 
>> Regards Lagi
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 July 2017 at 11:26, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Swami,
>>> The interface confuses people about whether they are logging in or signing
>>> up - I added some things that make that explicit and going to submit as
>>> soon as I test on a few friends.
>>> 
>>> If you want to register, fill in the fields for a new user then click the
>>> gear again to have the option to submit.
>>> 
>>> Clearly, I tested this in a biased way - not going to make that mistake
>>> again.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for checking it out!
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
>>>  wrote:
 
 Downloaded
 
 initial user registration failed some how.. no clear feedback on why,
>>> but now there is nothing more I can do…  anything I try leads to a  Error
>>> incorect or inaccurate

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Lagi,

Thank you for your feedback!
I have changed it so that the initial mode does exactly what you said - it has 
two options that allow the user to choose to create a new user or sign in.

From there it only reveals the fields and buttons that are appropriate for 
whether the user is logging in, logged in, creating a new user, or editing 
their information.

I am going to update the app on iTunes on Thursday. The core of the app seems 
to be strong, but the user interface clearly was lacking :(

I spent a lot more time working on figuring out the 3D map - I am going to make 
the interface smooth before I do any promotion.

I think we have to require using the current password to change the password, 
to prevent hacking.

I made notes of you other observations as well.

Thank you :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> I've tried to to login to the app from an iphone 6 ios 10.3.2
> 
> Ive restarted it a couple of time but always the same.
> 
> The Username and Password field asre white and enabled - I enter the
> details but no other field is enabled.
> 
> 
> Now some feedback.
> 
> My pet peeve (it happened on a subscription site 2 days ago so I'm still
> smarting from the experience ;-)
> 
> 1. I have never understood why anybody asks for the original password to
> change the one you have either forgotten or never received in the email.
> You are in good (bad?) company Skype does this but also ties you in nots
> with nobody to talk to.
> 
> 2. There are TOO many fields on the login page - there should be 2 Big
> Buttons at the top Create New Account ./ Sign In.
> 
> In fact off the top of my head, download the UDEMY app to see what I think
> is very simple and clear.
> 
> You can ask for all the rest on the second page but also have a SKIP if
> we/they don't want to enter the other info just yet.
> 
> 3. The app seems to know it has been run for a second time because the help
> screen doesnt come up - so again you can leave it logged in even if they
> exit the program.
> 
> 4. I would allow a user name and or an email address for logging in
> 
> 5. The (H) and (S) after the password and new password  have no clue that
> they are clickable the (S) on the New password is not enabled.
> That bit again is not obvious without clicking. The Words 
> would have fitted with no problem - and in a different colour or as a
> button.
> 
> 6. Why is the select user Icon showing when there is nothing to select?
> Would that show something after I put in my email or logged in in which
> case it just adds to the confusion. I pressed a few times to see if
> anything would load.
> 
> 7. You have Screen Name and Username - Until i looked to the Bottom where
> it says screen name I assumed the username was my login name (or is it?).
> 
> I was typing not my full name but a Username (1 word) - The Username (or
> Email) that is used to login should be together and First unless the first
> line says . It is not obvious if you expect a first name and
> last name - I presume it doesn't matter.
> 
> 8. To reiterate because this to me is the crux none of the other fields
> except the signup field need to be on the front page - "Show me the Banana"
> as Steve Krug says and "Don't Make me think" as Seth Godin says.
> 
> Regards Lagi
> 
> 
> On 7 July 2017 at 11:26, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Swami,
>> The interface confuses people about whether they are logging in or signing
>> up - I added some things that make that explicit and going to submit as
>> soon as I test on a few friends.
>> 
>> If you want to register, fill in the fields for a new user then click the
>> gear again to have the option to submit.
>> 
>> Clearly, I tested this in a biased way - not going to make that mistake
>> again.
>> 
>> Thanks for checking it out!
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Downloaded
>>> 
>>> initial user registration failed some how.. no clear feedback on why,
>> but now there is nothing more I can do…  anything I try leads to a  Error
>> incorect or inaccurate app user login credentials.
>>> 
>>> Going for the gear, choosing new user, enter creds. still get same
>> message.
>>> 
>>> I'm locked out of this app.
>>> 
>>> Also you need to trap for the return key in the name field.  use can hit
>> return and a cr is added and the name he entered disappears on line 1 above.
>>> 
>>> you need to put in that field
>>> 
>>> on return
>>> # do nothing, and do not pass the return key in the name field… or send
>> the cursor down to the Password field.
>>> end return
>>> 
>>> or something like that.. I have to look …
>>> 
>>> but, looks interesting, I'm impressed by the level of community activity
>> you expect to generate/support… looks "scary" to me unless you have a big
>> staff. I've been thinking about similar th

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Lagi Pittas via use-livecode]

Hi Jonathan,

I've tried to to login to the app from an iphone 6 ios 10.3.2

Ive restarted it a couple of time but always the same.

The Username and Password field asre white and enabled - I enter the
details but no other field is enabled.


Now some feedback.

My pet peeve (it happened on a subscription site 2 days ago so I'm still
smarting from the experience ;-)

1. I have never understood why anybody asks for the original password to
change the one you have either forgotten or never received in the email.
You are in good (bad?) company Skype does this but also ties you in nots
with nobody to talk to.

2. There are TOO many fields on the login page - there should be 2 Big
Buttons at the top Create New Account ./ Sign In.

In fact off the top of my head, download the UDEMY app to see what I think
 is very simple and clear.

You can ask for all the rest on the second page but also have a SKIP if
we/they don't want to enter the other info just yet.

3. The app seems to know it has been run for a second time because the help
screen doesnt come up - so again you can leave it logged in even if they
exit the program.

4. I would allow a user name and or an email address for logging in

5. The (H) and (S) after the password and new password  have no clue that
they are clickable the (S) on the New password is not enabled.
That bit again is not obvious without clicking. The Words 
would have fitted with no problem - and in a different colour or as a
button.

6. Why is the select user Icon showing when there is nothing to select?
Would that show something after I put in my email or logged in in which
case it just adds to the confusion. I pressed a few times to see if
anything would load.

7. You have Screen Name and Username - Until i looked to the Bottom where
it says screen name I assumed the username was my login name (or is it?).

I was typing not my full name but a Username (1 word) - The Username (or
Email) that is used to login should be together and First unless the first
line says . It is not obvious if you expect a first name and
last name - I presume it doesn't matter.

8. To reiterate because this to me is the crux none of the other fields
except the signup field need to be on the front page - "Show me the Banana"
as Steve Krug says and "Don't Make me think" as Seth Godin says.

Regards Lagi


On 7 July 2017 at 11:26, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Swami,
> The interface confuses people about whether they are logging in or signing
> up - I added some things that make that explicit and going to submit as
> soon as I test on a few friends.
>
> If you want to register, fill in the fields for a new user then click the
> gear again to have the option to submit.
>
> Clearly, I tested this in a biased way - not going to make that mistake
> again.
>
> Thanks for checking it out!
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
>  wrote:
> >
> > Downloaded
> >
> > initial user registration failed some how.. no clear feedback on why,
> but now there is nothing more I can do…  anything I try leads to a  Error
> incorect or inaccurate app user login credentials.
> >
> > Going for the gear, choosing new user, enter creds. still get same
> message.
> >
> > I'm locked out of this app.
> >
> > Also you need to trap for the return key in the name field.  use can hit
> return and a cr is added and the name he entered disappears on line 1 above.
> >
> > you need to put in that field
> >
> > on return
> > # do nothing, and do not pass the return key in the name field… or send
> the cursor down to the Password field.
> > end return
> >
> > or something like that.. I have to look …
> >
> > but, looks interesting, I'm impressed by the level of community activity
> you expect to generate/support… looks "scary" to me unless you have a big
> staff. I've been thinking about similar things for our new app, but
> everytime I shy away…
> >
> > BR
> >
> > On 7/6/17, 4:01 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Jonathan Lynch via
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch,
> but I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until
> version 1.5.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Swami,
The interface confuses people about whether they are logging in or signing up - 
I added some things that make that explicit and going to submit as soon as I 
test on a few friends.

If you want to register, fill in the fields for a new user then click the gear 
again to have the option to submit.

Clearly, I tested this in a biased way - not going to make that mistake again.
 
Thanks for checking it out!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Downloaded
> 
> initial user registration failed some how.. no clear feedback on why, but now 
> there is nothing more I can do…  anything I try leads to a  Error incorect or 
> inaccurate app user login credentials.
> 
> Going for the gear, choosing new user, enter creds. still get same message. 
> 
> I'm locked out of this app.
> 
> Also you need to trap for the return key in the name field.  use can hit 
> return and a cr is added and the name he entered disappears on line 1 above.
> 
> you need to put in that field
> 
> on return
> # do nothing, and do not pass the return key in the name field… or send the 
> cursor down to the Password field.
> end return
> 
> or something like that.. I have to look … 
> 
> but, looks interesting, I'm impressed by the level of community activity you 
> expect to generate/support… looks "scary" to me unless you have a big staff. 
> I've been thinking about similar things for our new app, but everytime I shy 
> away… 
> 
> BR
> 
> On 7/6/17, 4:01 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Jonathan Lynch via 
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but 
> I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until 
> version 1.5.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Downloaded

initial user registration failed some how.. no clear feedback on why, but now 
there is nothing more I can do…  anything I try leads to a  Error incorect or 
inaccurate app user login credentials.

Going for the gear, choosing new user, enter creds. still get same message. 

I'm locked out of this app.

Also you need to trap for the return key in the name field.  use can hit return 
and a cr is added and the name he entered disappears on line 1 above.

you need to put in that field

on return
# do nothing, and do not pass the return key in the name field… or send the 
cursor down to the Password field.
end return

or something like that.. I have to look … 

but, looks interesting, I'm impressed by the level of community activity you 
expect to generate/support… looks "scary" to me unless you have a big staff. 
I've been thinking about similar things for our new app, but everytime I shy 
away… 

BR

On 7/6/17, 4:01 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but I 
am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until version 
1.5.





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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Here is how I have addressed the initial login issue - not going to do constant 
updates, fear not.

I made it so that when it starts out (in initial mode) it presents a Create 
User button at the top with a field right after it that says you can either 
create a new user with that button or login an existing user below.

If they opt to create a new user, the fields unlock and a Submit button becomes 
visible at the bottom.

The button and field for creating a new user are only visible, and only take up 
space, in the initial mode.

The Submit button is only visible in the CreatingNewUser mode.

It is not too cluttered and seems intuitive to me. My intuition is not always 
spot on, so I am going to test it out on my victims, er... friends and family, 
before I submit the update to the App Store.

Thanks again - these were valuable observations.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:30 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Sean,
> I am fixing the sign up process right now, and going to submit an update 
> tonight - in the meantime you can press the Universal button (bottom right) 
> again to submit, but I am also adding a submit button at the bottom of the 
> form to avoid confusion. 
> 
> It must be hanging up trying get the HTML text for the title space at the 
> top. I will change it to get that HTML text internally and then do an 
> asynchronous load to get the HTML text from my website and load it in 
> whenever it can get it.
> 
> I will also work on the button sizes.
> Thank you for the time you put in on this!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> 
>> I tried a shut down and reopen. I needed to let it sit on the open page for
>> a good 5mins or so and finally displayed the 'Hello' prompt. Closing it
>> down and restarting it then took only 3-4 seconds after the loading page.
>> 
>> In the registration page the 'Finish' button is off the bottom of the page
>> and I can't scroll to it. -
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b49nqjutuv236wz/IMG_DC61C94076A8-1.jpeg?dl=0
>> 
>> Also on the registration page, the other fields are greyed out so I can't
>> create a profile. Hitting return from the password (h) (what does h and
>> s mean?) field comes up with '[Error] Incorrect or inactive app user login
>> credentials'.
>> 
>> The text in the Done button is selectable as it all of the other text. It's
>> also smaller than the iOS recommended size for fingers (44x44 pixels lores,
>> 88 (=44pts) retina). See https://designcode.io/iosdesign-guidelines down at
>> Buttons and Font Sizes
>> 
>> Sean Cole
>> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
>> www.pidigital.co.uk
>> +44(1634)402193
>> +44(7702)116447
>> 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
>> box!'
>> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
>> but it is yourself!'
>> 
>> eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
>> Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
>> 
>> On 6 July 2017 at 15:36, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well shoot - thanks Sean
>>> 
>>> If you shut it down and reopen, it will probably go, but I need to figure
>>> that one out
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Well done on getting this to store. I've just downloaded to my iPhone6
 running iOS11b3 and it hangs on the opening page with the title and
>>> globe.
 It doesn't appear to go beyond this just yet. It may be just that I'm on
>>> a
 beta OS but thought I'd let you know.
 
 All the best
 
 Sean Cole
 *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
 
 
 eMail Ts & Cs  Pi Digital
 Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
 
 On 6 July 2017 at 15:01, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
> 
> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch,
>>> but
> I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until
> version 1.5.
> 
> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining
>>> how
> to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the
>>> September
> LC Global conference.
> 
> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
> 
> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
> 
> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
> 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Sean,
 I am fixing the sign up process right now, and going to submit an update 
tonight - in the meantime you can press the Universal button (bottom right) 
again to submit, but I am also adding a submit button at the bottom of the form 
to avoid confusion. 

It must be hanging up trying get the HTML text for the title space at the top. 
I will change it to get that HTML text internally and then do an asynchronous 
load to get the HTML text from my website and load it in whenever it can get it.

I will also work on the button sizes.
 Thank you for the time you put in on this!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> I tried a shut down and reopen. I needed to let it sit on the open page for
> a good 5mins or so and finally displayed the 'Hello' prompt. Closing it
> down and restarting it then took only 3-4 seconds after the loading page.
> 
> In the registration page the 'Finish' button is off the bottom of the page
> and I can't scroll to it. -
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b49nqjutuv236wz/IMG_DC61C94076A8-1.jpeg?dl=0
> 
> Also on the registration page, the other fields are greyed out so I can't
> create a profile. Hitting return from the password (h) (what does h and
> s mean?) field comes up with '[Error] Incorrect or inactive app user login
> credentials'.
> 
> The text in the Done button is selectable as it all of the other text. It's
> also smaller than the iOS recommended size for fingers (44x44 pixels lores,
> 88 (=44pts) retina). See https://designcode.io/iosdesign-guidelines down at
> Buttons and Font Sizes
> 
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> www.pidigital.co.uk
> +44(1634)402193
> +44(7702)116447
> 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
> box!'
> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
> but it is yourself!'
> 
> eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
> Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
> 
> On 6 July 2017 at 15:36, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well shoot - thanks Sean
>> 
>> If you shut it down and reopen, it will probably go, but I need to figure
>> that one out
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>> 
>>> Well done on getting this to store. I've just downloaded to my iPhone6
>>> running iOS11b3 and it hangs on the opening page with the title and
>> globe.
>>> It doesn't appear to go beyond this just yet. It may be just that I'm on
>> a
>>> beta OS but thought I'd let you know.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Sean Cole
>>> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> eMail Ts & Cs  Pi Digital
>>> Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
>>> 
>>> On 6 July 2017 at 15:01, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
 
 If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch,
>> but
 I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until
 version 1.5.
 
 I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining
>> how
 to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the
>> September
 LC Global conference.
 
 All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
 
 A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
 
 Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
 
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi Jonathan,

I tried a shut down and reopen. I needed to let it sit on the open page for
a good 5mins or so and finally displayed the 'Hello' prompt. Closing it
down and restarting it then took only 3-4 seconds after the loading page.

In the registration page the 'Finish' button is off the bottom of the page
and I can't scroll to it. -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b49nqjutuv236wz/IMG_DC61C94076A8-1.jpeg?dl=0

Also on the registration page, the other fields are greyed out so I can't
create a profile. Hitting return from the password (h) (what does h and
s mean?) field comes up with '[Error] Incorrect or inactive app user login
credentials'.

The text in the Done button is selectable as it all of the other text. It's
also smaller than the iOS recommended size for fingers (44x44 pixels lores,
88 (=44pts) retina). See https://designcode.io/iosdesign-guidelines down at
Buttons and Font Sizes

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
www.pidigital.co.uk
+44(1634)402193
+44(7702)116447
'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
box!'
'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
but it is yourself!'

eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609

On 6 July 2017 at 15:36, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Well shoot - thanks Sean
>
> If you shut it down and reopen, it will probably go, but I need to figure
> that one out
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jonathan,
> >
> > Well done on getting this to store. I've just downloaded to my iPhone6
> > running iOS11b3 and it hangs on the opening page with the title and
> globe.
> > It doesn't appear to go beyond this just yet. It may be just that I'm on
> a
> > beta OS but thought I'd let you know.
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Sean Cole
> > *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> >
> >
> > eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
> > Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
> >
> > On 6 July 2017 at 15:01, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
> >>
> >> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch,
> but
> >> I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until
> >> version 1.5.
> >>
> >> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining
> how
> >> to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the
> September
> >> LC Global conference.
> >>
> >> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
> >>
> >> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
> >>
> >> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
> >>
> >> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

My wife just suggested a demo as well. Great minds thinking alike.

So - yes, I can do that. I am inclined to make an instructional video and put 
it on YouTube, though not until anything embarrassing is gone from the app. I 
used to work in TV and I have friends with high-quality gear that would help me 
out for cheap.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 5:17 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill
> 
> I am doing a completely quiet launch for 1.0 to avoid negative reviews. I 
> just did not have a mechanism to do a bunch of beta tests - and I really did 
> not realize how confusing it would be at first.
> 
> By 1.1, I should be okay to start reaching out to local high schools - my 
> first target users.
> 
> I agree this could be great for education. I plan to work with teachers to 
> build templates for a variety of lesson plans. I also plan to create a child 
> mode for young users by version 1.5.
> 
> I agree about the user login experience - I am going to stay up late tonight 
> working on that and get it cleaned up.
> 
> Pretty much everything is available through the Universal button. After you 
> fill in the form, you press the universal button again to have the submit 
> option.
> 
> This method appears to be confusing though, so I will have to also include 
> some of those buttons I had removed.
> 
> They were there previously, but my interface was so cluttered I might have 
> swung too far to the opposite side.
> 
> Thanks so much for your time on this,
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:43 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathon:
>> I clicked the gear icon and chose “Enter new User”. I entered my info, but 
>> what then? No button showed to accept my input or register me.
>> 
>> So…. I suggest you revamp/rethink your login system. It’s very important 
>> because it’s the first thing a new user sees and if she is frustrated, you 
>> are sunk. You may even want to consider having a “browse” mode where a user 
>> can see certain content without creating an account. Fields that aren’t 
>> needed should not be shown or made dark grey. It confuses the user.
>> 
>> I suggest you have two buttons that are prominent on your opening page, in 
>> addition to your nice graphics. One says something like “New User”, the 
>> other “Log In” with text explaining “Log In” means you have an account. 
>> After the system accepts the information, you get a page that verifies the  
>> login was ok, and invites you to update your profile. BTW, the profile 
>> should ask specific questions, but be optional. Privacy policy? Or you could 
>> just take the successfully logged in user to the first page you want them to 
>> see and let the gear icon take them to their account. 
>> 
>> I do think some kind of “tour” or “browse” type mode would be a good idea, 
>> though.
>> 
>> This gets me thinking about how an application like this might be education 
>> oriented. Wouldn’t it be great if students from schools around the world 
>> could interact and post pictures and discuss science topics? It would have 
>> to have strong safety so only school children and their teachers would be 
>> online. Lessons of international interest could be available or posted by 
>> teachers. Students interact to see how a particular phenomenon affects their 
>> locale. Just thinking aloud. I have a colleague in Malawi that teaches 
>> geography, and she is very interested in teaching her students about solar 
>> cooking. A great subject for her, she sent me a picture of her cooking maize 
>> over a wood fire. 
>> 
>> Good luck with your app. I’m looking forward to new revisions. Also, have 
>> you thought about getting reviews before you put it on the app store? You 
>> want to avoid getting a bad reputation when you are just debugging and 
>> testing user experience. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:57 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathon:
>>> A common solutionfor this is to have two buttons. One says: “I am a new 
>>> first-time User” and the other one says: “I have an account. Log me in.” 
>>> That would avoid the confusion.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 I think I am going to add a first-load script that explicitly asks the 
 user if they want to create a new login, and explain they can do this at 
 any time through the Universal Button. 
 
 I think I am going to change the image for the Universal button as well. 
 although not sure exactly to what.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:17 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill
> 
> If you click the gear button, it will let you create a new user.
> 
> 
> My daughter just made the same observation - I will find a way to make it 
> obvious.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Bill

I am doing a completely quiet launch for 1.0 to avoid negative reviews. I just 
did not have a mechanism to do a bunch of beta tests - and I really did not 
realize how confusing it would be at first.

By 1.1, I should be okay to start reaching out to local high schools - my first 
target users.

I agree this could be great for education. I plan to work with teachers to 
build templates for a variety of lesson plans. I also plan to create a child 
mode for young users by version 1.5.

I agree about the user login experience - I am going to stay up late tonight 
working on that and get it cleaned up.

Pretty much everything is available through the Universal button. After you 
fill in the form, you press the universal button again to have the submit 
option.

This method appears to be confusing though, so I will have to also include some 
of those buttons I had removed.

They were there previously, but my interface was so cluttered I might have 
swung too far to the opposite side.

Thanks so much for your time on this,

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 4:43 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jonathon:
> I clicked the gear icon and chose “Enter new User”. I entered my info, but 
> what then? No button showed to accept my input or register me.
> 
> So…. I suggest you revamp/rethink your login system. It’s very important 
> because it’s the first thing a new user sees and if she is frustrated, you 
> are sunk. You may even want to consider having a “browse” mode where a user 
> can see certain content without creating an account. Fields that aren’t 
> needed should not be shown or made dark grey. It confuses the user.
> 
> I suggest you have two buttons that are prominent on your opening page, in 
> addition to your nice graphics. One says something like “New User”, the other 
> “Log In” with text explaining “Log In” means you have an account. After the 
> system accepts the information, you get a page that verifies the  login was 
> ok, and invites you to update your profile. BTW, the profile should ask 
> specific questions, but be optional. Privacy policy? Or you could just take 
> the successfully logged in user to the first page you want them to see and 
> let the gear icon take them to their account. 
> 
> I do think some kind of “tour” or “browse” type mode would be a good idea, 
> though.
> 
> This gets me thinking about how an application like this might be education 
> oriented. Wouldn’t it be great if students from schools around the world 
> could interact and post pictures and discuss science topics? It would have to 
> have strong safety so only school children and their teachers would be 
> online. Lessons of international interest could be available or posted by 
> teachers. Students interact to see how a particular phenomenon affects their 
> locale. Just thinking aloud. I have a colleague in Malawi that teaches 
> geography, and she is very interested in teaching her students about solar 
> cooking. A great subject for her, she sent me a picture of her cooking maize 
> over a wood fire. 
> 
> Good luck with your app. I’m looking forward to new revisions. Also, have you 
> thought about getting reviews before you put it on the app store? You want to 
> avoid getting a bad reputation when you are just debugging and testing user 
> experience. 
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:57 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathon:
>> A common solutionfor this is to have two buttons. One says: “I am a new 
>> first-time User” and the other one says: “I have an account. Log me in.” 
>> That would avoid the confusion.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I am going to add a first-load script that explicitly asks the user 
>>> if they want to create a new login, and explain they can do this at any 
>>> time through the Universal Button. 
>>> 
>>> I think I am going to change the image for the Universal button as well. 
>>> although not sure exactly to what.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:17 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bill
 
 If you click the gear button, it will let you create a new user.
 
 
 My daughter just made the same observation - I will find a way to make it 
 obvious.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jonathon:
> Impressive app. You’re going to have fun keeping control of the trollers. 
> Anyway, I downloaded it and opened it on my iPad Pro, latest distro of 
> iOS. I got the main screen, then it sent me to the registration screen, 
> where I entered a userName and password. Below the “Password” field, the 
> “New Password” field and all those below it stayed greyed out. I could go 
> no further. If I pressed “Return” after

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Jonathon:
I clicked the gear icon and chose “Enter new User”. I entered my info, but what 
then? No button showed to accept my input or register me.

So…. I suggest you revamp/rethink your login system. It’s very important 
because it’s the first thing a new user sees and if she is frustrated, you are 
sunk. You may even want to consider having a “browse” mode where a user can see 
certain content without creating an account. Fields that aren’t needed should 
not be shown or made dark grey. It confuses the user.

I suggest you have two buttons that are prominent on your opening page, in 
addition to your nice graphics. One says something like “New User”, the other 
“Log In” with text explaining “Log In” means you have an account. After the 
system accepts the information, you get a page that verifies the  login was ok, 
and invites you to update your profile. BTW, the profile should ask specific 
questions, but be optional. Privacy policy? Or you could just take the 
successfully logged in user to the first page you want them to see and let the 
gear icon take them to their account. 

I do think some kind of “tour” or “browse” type mode would be a good idea, 
though.

This gets me thinking about how an application like this might be education 
oriented. Wouldn’t it be great if students from schools around the world could 
interact and post pictures and discuss science topics? It would have to have 
strong safety so only school children and their teachers would be online. 
Lessons of international interest could be available or posted by teachers. 
Students interact to see how a particular phenomenon affects their locale. Just 
thinking aloud. I have a colleague in Malawi that teaches geography, and she is 
very interested in teaching her students about solar cooking. A great subject 
for her, she sent me a picture of her cooking maize over a wood fire. 

Good luck with your app. I’m looking forward to new revisions. Also, have you 
thought about getting reviews before you put it on the app store? You want to 
avoid getting a bad reputation when you are just debugging and testing user 
experience. 

Best,
Bill

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:57 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jonathon:
> A common solutionfor this is to have two buttons. One says: “I am a new 
> first-time User” and the other one says: “I have an account. Log me in.” That 
> would avoid the confusion.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I am going to add a first-load script that explicitly asks the user 
>> if they want to create a new login, and explain they can do this at any time 
>> through the Universal Button. 
>> 
>> I think I am going to change the image for the Universal button as well. 
>> although not sure exactly to what.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:17 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill
>>> 
>>> If you click the gear button, it will let you create a new user.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My daughter just made the same observation - I will find a way to make it 
>>> obvious.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Jonathon:
 Impressive app. You’re going to have fun keeping control of the trollers. 
 Anyway, I downloaded it and opened it on my iPad Pro, latest distro of 
 iOS. I got the main screen, then it sent me to the registration screen, 
 where I entered a userName and password. Below the “Password” field, the 
 “New Password” field and all those below it stayed greyed out. I could go 
 no further. If I pressed “Return” after my password entry, it tried to 
 register me but I got an “Invalid credentials dialog.
 
 I quit the app, opened it again, and got the same behavior.
 
 I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and 
 should be a winner. Look out, FaceBook!
 Best,
 Bill P
 
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
> 
> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but 
> I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until 
> version 1.5.
> 
> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how 
> to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the 
> September LC Global conference.
> 
> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
> 
> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
> 
> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ___
> use-livecode

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Jonathon:
A common solutionfor this is to have two buttons. One says: “I am a new 
first-time User” and the other one says: “I have an account. Log me in.” That 
would avoid the confusion.

Best,
Bill

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I am going to add a first-load script that explicitly asks the user 
> if they want to create a new login, and explain they can do this at any time 
> through the Universal Button. 
> 
> I think I am going to change the image for the Universal button as well. 
> although not sure exactly to what.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:17 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill
>> 
>> If you click the gear button, it will let you create a new user.
>> 
>> 
>> My daughter just made the same observation - I will find a way to make it 
>> obvious.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathon:
>>> Impressive app. You’re going to have fun keeping control of the trollers. 
>>> Anyway, I downloaded it and opened it on my iPad Pro, latest distro of iOS. 
>>> I got the main screen, then it sent me to the registration screen, where I 
>>> entered a userName and password. Below the “Password” field, the “New 
>>> Password” field and all those below it stayed greyed out. I could go no 
>>> further. If I pressed “Return” after my password entry, it tried to 
>>> register me but I got an “Invalid credentials dialog.
>>> 
>>> I quit the app, opened it again, and got the same behavior.
>>> 
>>> I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and 
>>> should be a winner. Look out, FaceBook!
>>> Best,
>>> Bill P
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
 
 If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but 
 I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until 
 version 1.5.
 
 I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how 
 to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the September 
 LC Global conference.
 
 All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
 
 A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
 
 Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
 
 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

I think I am going to add a first-load script that explicitly asks the user if 
they want to create a new login, and explain they can do this at any time 
through the Universal Button. 

I think I am going to change the image for the Universal button as well. 
although not sure exactly to what.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:17 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill
> 
> If you click the gear button, it will let you create a new user.
> 
> 
> My daughter just made the same observation - I will find a way to make it 
> obvious.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathon:
>> Impressive app. You’re going to have fun keeping control of the trollers. 
>> Anyway, I downloaded it and opened it on my iPad Pro, latest distro of iOS. 
>> I got the main screen, then it sent me to the registration screen, where I 
>> entered a userName and password. Below the “Password” field, the “New 
>> Password” field and all those below it stayed greyed out. I could go no 
>> further. If I pressed “Return” after my password entry, it tried to register 
>> me but I got an “Invalid credentials dialog.
>> 
>> I quit the app, opened it again, and got the same behavior.
>> 
>> I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and 
>> should be a winner. Look out, FaceBook!
>> Best,
>> Bill P
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
>>> 
>>> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but I 
>>> am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until 
>>> version 1.5.
>>> 
>>> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how 
>>> to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the September 
>>> LC Global conference.
>>> 
>>> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
>>> 
>>> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
>>> 
>>> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
>>> 
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
>>> 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Bill

If you click the gear button, it will let you create a new user.


My daughter just made the same observation - I will find a way to make it 
obvious.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jonathon:
> Impressive app. You’re going to have fun keeping control of the trollers. 
> Anyway, I downloaded it and opened it on my iPad Pro, latest distro of iOS. I 
> got the main screen, then it sent me to the registration screen, where I 
> entered a userName and password. Below the “Password” field, the “New 
> Password” field and all those below it stayed greyed out. I could go no 
> further. If I pressed “Return” after my password entry, it tried to register 
> me but I got an “Invalid credentials dialog.
> 
> I quit the app, opened it again, and got the same behavior.
> 
> I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and 
> should be a winner. Look out, FaceBook!
> Best,
> Bill P
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
>> 
>> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but I 
>> am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until version 
>> 1.5.
>> 
>> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how to 
>> do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the September LC 
>> Global conference.
>> 
>> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
>> 
>> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
>> 
>> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
>> 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
>> 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Jonathon:
Impressive app. You’re going to have fun keeping control of the trollers. 
Anyway, I downloaded it and opened it on my iPad Pro, latest distro of iOS. I 
got the main screen, then it sent me to the registration screen, where I 
entered a userName and password. Below the “Password” field, the “New Password” 
field and all those below it stayed greyed out. I could go no further. If I 
pressed “Return” after my password entry, it tried to register me but I got an 
“Invalid credentials dialog.

I quit the app, opened it again, and got the same behavior.

I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and should 
be a winner. Look out, FaceBook!
Best,
Bill P

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
> 
> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but I 
> am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until version 
> 1.5.
> 
> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how to 
> do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the September LC 
> Global conference.
> 
> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
> 
> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
> 
> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
> 
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Well shoot - thanks Sean

If you shut it down and reopen, it will probably go, but I need to figure that 
one out

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> Well done on getting this to store. I've just downloaded to my iPhone6
> running iOS11b3 and it hangs on the opening page with the title and globe.
> It doesn't appear to go beyond this just yet. It may be just that I'm on a
> beta OS but thought I'd let you know.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> 
> 
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> 
> On 6 July 2017 at 15:01, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
>> 
>> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but
>> I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until
>> version 1.5.
>> 
>> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how
>> to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the September
>> LC Global conference.
>> 
>> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
>> 
>> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
>> 
>> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
>> 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

I recently discovered this app store search site (no iTunes needed):

https://theappstore.org/?search=augmented-earth&platform=software

https://theappstore.org

~Roger


On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
>
> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but
> I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until
> version 1.5.
>
> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how
> to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the September
> LC Global conference.
>
> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
>
> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
>
> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
>
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Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi Jonathan,

Well done on getting this to store. I've just downloaded to my iPhone6
running iOS11b3 and it hangs on the opening page with the title and globe.
It doesn't appear to go beyond this just yet. It may be just that I'm on a
beta OS but thought I'd let you know.

All the best

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital Productions Ltd*


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On 6 July 2017 at 15:01, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :)
>
> If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but
> I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until
> version 1.5.
>
> I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share for explaining how
> to do 3D webgl Earth maps in LC, prior to my presentation at the September
> LC Global conference.
>
> All constructive feedback is welcome, I have much to improve.
>
> A big thanks to everyone here for all the helpful tips :)
>
> Here is the link, for iPhone/iPad users:
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/augmented-earth/id1252486908?ls=1&mt=8
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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