Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
That seems a very good idea. Richmond. On 3/10/17 8:26 pm, Dan Brown via use-livecode wrote: Would a splash screen that appears on first launch of the IDE not be a better way of harvesting email addresses? A "do not show again" tick box on said splash screen would suffice for those not

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Dan Brown via use-livecode
Would a splash screen that appears on first launch of the IDE not be a better way of harvesting email addresses? A "do not show again" tick box on said splash screen would suffice for those not interested in registering. Vastly reduces download friction On 10 Mar 2017 5:47 p.m., "Roger Eller via

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
It's a matter of forced consent, not necessarily about the intended use of your email address. I get it, and I agree that it should not be required. ~Roger On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Indeed; but now this is

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Indeed; but now this is drifting OT. Richmond. On 3/10/17 7:04 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I have bad news for everyone who thinks that by not giving their email address out actually does anything to prevent it from getting on a spam list. If you mother has the address in her

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I would hope that all first-time downloaders supply an e-mail adress, but notwithstanding that they should be given the option to opt out. Richmond. On 3/10/17 5:55 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I'm all for requiring an email address to DL the community version. After all, they are

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I have bad news for everyone who thinks that by not giving their email address out actually does anything to prevent it from getting on a spam list. If you mother has the address in her address book and clicks on a bad link or opens an email with malware on it, your address is probably getting

RE: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Jim MacConnell via use-livecode
ssage- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:55 AM To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com> Subject: Re: Downloa

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I'm all for requiring an email address to DL the community version. > After all, they are DL'ing a fully functional development > application! Providing a valid email address is the least they > can do. To what end? An email address has value only to the degree it is given

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm all for requiring an email address to DL the community version. After all, they are DL'ing a fully functional development application! Providing a valid email address is the least they can do. Bob S > On Mar 9, 2017, at 17:30 , Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode >

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
James Hale wrote: Richard wrote: Most SEO brings people to the .com site, so those on the .org site are the subset who specifically went there the get the open source edition of LiveCode. I still don't understand why this distinction was made. That was an idea I pitched to the team, and as

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread James Hale via use-livecode
Richard wrote: > Most SEO brings people to the .com site, so those on the .org site are > the subset who specifically went there to get the open source edition of > LiveCode. The conversion rate there is understandably much lower than > on the .com site. > > After all, someone at the .com

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 3/9/2017 6:18 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > Growing the platform's audience. You make a good point here. I wish i knew whether the open Source effort significantly grew the userbase over whatever trend it was on before the OSS effort and whether the actual number of paying

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
On Mar 9, 2017 5:26 PM, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Asking for an e-mail address is a small thing to ask for. > > But _forcing_, rather than _asking_, isn't quite the same thing. > > Personal blether starts now --- > > I don't feel

Re: Download LC Community: trapped

2017-03-09 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
on Thu, 9 Mar 2017, Richard Gaskin wrote: > The value of an email address is only non-zero > when it's given freely. So have sign-up as an option, > rather than a requirement, and the problem > is very easily solved. Emails directions could be really useful to open a direct communication link

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: > With 75% of downloads being Community, only 25% of the user base is > paying for 100% of the development. The idea being that those that get > LiveCode for free would, in some part, contribute back to the Open > Source effort that, in turn, expands the commercial offerings.

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Asking for an e-mail address is a small thing to ask for. But _forcing_, rather than _asking_, isn't quite the same thing. Personal blether starts now --- I don't feel capable in a big way to contribute to LiveCode development, so I do try to send bug reports in when I fall over

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 3/9/2017 1:02 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: > If you decide you don't wish to donate right now you still have to > specify a name and an e-mail > address. > > So: NO anonymous download unless you happen to have previously > bookmarked: > > downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ > >

Re: Download LC Community: trapped.

2017-03-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond Mathewson wrote: > Until a few days ago, if you went via the OBSCURE green button right > at the bottom-left of the LiveCode landing page [ www.livecode.com ] > to the Open Source page [ www.livecode.org ] you could, by clicking > on the "Download" text at the top of that page go to the