Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

OK. The general sentiment seems to be against banning. However, if I see any 
more inflammatory posts from participants in this thread, I will action bans.

Once again, the list demonstrates what a kind and forgiving place it is. 

I'm going to post the list rules again later today, when I have a moment, as I 
don't think I've done that for quite some time, maybe we need a refresher.

Best Regards to all,

Heather


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> On 11 Apr 2021, at 17:29, Richmond via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Writing as someone who has had the extremely dubious honour of being banned 
> more than once . . .
> 
> How does it go?
> 
> To err is human,
> to forgive is divine.
> 
> And if there is anyone on this use-list who has not rubbed someone up the 
> wrong way at least once I would be very surprised.
> 
> Live, Love, Learn . . .
> 
> Oh, cripes, that makes me sound like an unreconstructed hippy.
> 
> Love, Richmond.
> 
> On 11.04.21 0:41, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:
>> 
>> Charles:
>> 
>>> Please do not ban anyone.
>> 
>> Somehow that struck me as a pure and beautiful sentiment!
>> Short and simple. It grew on me during the list silence today.
>> 
>> We can be punitive, or else help each other as we imperfectly stumble.
>> 
>> I'd hate to see the entire list hurt for the sake of a careless word;
>> and that is what would happen. Because weighing the pros and cons,
>> we lose more than we gain as we dwindle in number and viewpoints/skills.
>> 
>> Here, please allow me to do the honors:
>> 
>> Sorry. Deepest apologies to one and all.
>> And again sorry.
>> 
>> May those who are offended find healing and forgiveness.
>> May love prevail in all our interactions here and elsewhere.
>> 
>> Hope we can move on. So many LC matters to discuss. Have a good weekend!
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Curry Kenworthy
>> 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Richmond via use-livecode]

Writing as someone who has had the extremely dubious honour of being 
banned more than once . . .


How does it go?

To err is human,
to forgive is divine.

And if there is anyone on this use-list who has not rubbed someone up 
the wrong way at least once I would be very surprised.


Live, Love, Learn . . .

Oh, cripes, that makes me sound like an unreconstructed hippy.

Love, Richmond.

On 11.04.21 0:41, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:


Charles:


Please do not ban anyone.


Somehow that struck me as a pure and beautiful sentiment!
Short and simple. It grew on me during the list silence today.

We can be punitive, or else help each other as we imperfectly stumble.

I'd hate to see the entire list hurt for the sake of a careless word;
and that is what would happen. Because weighing the pros and cons,
we lose more than we gain as we dwindle in number and viewpoints/skills.

Here, please allow me to do the honors:

Sorry. Deepest apologies to one and all.
And again sorry.

May those who are offended find healing and forgiveness.
May love prevail in all our interactions here and elsewhere.

Hope we can move on. So many LC matters to discuss. Have a good weekend!

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode]

Amen!

Op 10-4-2021 om 23:41 schreef Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode:


Charles:


Please do not ban anyone.


Somehow that struck me as a pure and beautiful sentiment!
Short and simple. It grew on me during the list silence today.

We can be punitive, or else help each other as we imperfectly stumble.

I'd hate to see the entire list hurt for the sake of a careless word;
and that is what would happen. Because weighing the pros and cons,
we lose more than we gain as we dwindle in number and viewpoints/skills.

Here, please allow me to do the honors:

Sorry. Deepest apologies to one and all.
And again sorry.

May those who are offended find healing and forgiveness.
May love prevail in all our interactions here and elsewhere.

Hope we can move on. So many LC matters to discuss. Have a good weekend!

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

+1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2021, at 14:43, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Charles:
> 
> > Please do not ban anyone.
> 
> Somehow that struck me as a pure and beautiful sentiment!
> Short and simple. It grew on me during the list silence today.
> 
> We can be punitive, or else help each other as we imperfectly stumble.
> 
> I'd hate to see the entire list hurt for the sake of a careless word;
> and that is what would happen. Because weighing the pros and cons,
> we lose more than we gain as we dwindle in number and viewpoints/skills.
> 
> Here, please allow me to do the honors:
> 
> Sorry. Deepest apologies to one and all.
> And again sorry.
> 
> May those who are offended find healing and forgiveness.
> May love prevail in all our interactions here and elsewhere.
> 
> Hope we can move on. So many LC matters to discuss. Have a good weekend!
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Curry Kenworthy
> 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Charles:

> Please do not ban anyone.

Somehow that struck me as a pure and beautiful sentiment!
Short and simple. It grew on me during the list silence today.

We can be punitive, or else help each other as we imperfectly stumble.

I'd hate to see the entire list hurt for the sake of a careless word;
and that is what would happen. Because weighing the pros and cons,
we lose more than we gain as we dwindle in number and viewpoints/skills.

Here, please allow me to do the honors:

Sorry. Deepest apologies to one and all.
And again sorry.

May those who are offended find healing and forgiveness.
May love prevail in all our interactions here and elsewhere.

Hope we can move on. So many LC matters to discuss. Have a good weekend!

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

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LiveCode Training and Consulting
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Charles Lachat via use-livecode]

Please do not ban anyone.


Charles

> Le 9 avr. 2021 à 10:31, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Oh my word. That went downhill really fast, while I was peacefully sleeping.
> 
> Folks. Never, ever, post politics on this mailing list. Do NOT exchange 
> abuse. This is a place to discuss LiveCode, in a helpful and friendly 
> fashion. If someone offends you, the best response is silence. If you must, 
> please email me to ask for redress.
> 
> I really truly do not want to ban anyone, all the posters in this thread have 
> provided interesting and useful information in the past. However, if I do not 
> see apologies from Sean and John Balgenorth as their next posts I will ban 
> you both. I'm not looking for justifications, explanations, or any 
> continuation of this thread. Two simple apologies and move on. For the 
> avoidance of doubt, you are not apologising to each other. You are 
> apologising to the list for posts that have offended quite a large number of 
> people.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Heather
> 
> 
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Apr 2021, at 17:53, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> #cheese
>> 
>> If a post is offensive, delete it.
>> 
>> If a poster is frequently offensive, add a filter to have it delete 
>> automatically.
>> 
>> May we please discuss LiveCode?
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

Oh my word. That went downhill really fast, while I was peacefully sleeping.

Folks. Never, ever, post politics on this mailing list. Do NOT exchange abuse. 
This is a place to discuss LiveCode, in a helpful and friendly fashion. If 
someone offends you, the best response is silence. If you must, please email me 
to ask for redress.

I really truly do not want to ban anyone, all the posters in this thread have 
provided interesting and useful information in the past. However, if I do not 
see apologies from Sean and John Balgenorth as their next posts I will ban you 
both. I'm not looking for justifications, explanations, or any continuation of 
this thread. Two simple apologies and move on. For the avoidance of doubt, you 
are not apologising to each other. You are apologising to the list for posts 
that have offended quite a large number of people.

Thank you.

Heather


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> On 8 Apr 2021, at 17:53, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> #cheese
> 
> If a post is offensive, delete it.
> 
> If a poster is frequently offensive, add a filter to have it delete 
> automatically.
> 
> May we please discuss LiveCode?
> 
> -- 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Trumps effects were global ;)
Sean

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 17:21, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I mistakenly remembered the diagnosis, for which Sean was gracious.
> However, the US government is unlikely to be involved since Sean is in the
> UK where they actually have humane health care.
>
> --
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> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On April 8, 2021 10:57:05 AM John Balgenorth via use-livecode
>  wrote:
>
> >
> > How do you know Sean is bipolar and not a victim of American
> > government hidden crimes ?
>
>
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

#cheese

If a post is offensive, delete it.

If a poster is frequently offensive, add a filter to have it delete 
automatically.


May we please discuss LiveCode?

--
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[John Balgenorth via use-livecode]

The road went down that path and hiding the truth about his possible
problems is not something I was willing to do.  I don’t talk politics
either that was all I really need to tell any of you about it the rest is
something that needs to be dealt with by others.

You can pretend it is not true but I can assure you President Trump
and President Biden are not supporting the crimes and abuse.

JB

> On Apr 8, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I talk politics(including health care) all the time(ask Margaret) but this 
> list is not the place for me. It's not because of some "rule" or "I'm afraid 
> to show my political cards". It's for the same reason I don’t do it at RR 
> conferences. I want to glean and learn as much information from my colleagues 
> as possible. Even while having a pint at an RR event I learn more about our 
> field than when I'm hanging with friends. So I will have a few pints with you 
> good folks and maybe strum some chords or tinkle the ivories(music and the 
> arts are my exception) but I try to limit the exchanging ideas to our field 
> for selfish reasons not because of any "rule" or proper decorum. But that's 
> me...
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of John Balgenorth via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 11:55 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: John Balgenorth
> Subject: Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr
> 
> If Sean has said he is bipolar then is it possible he is mistaken and 
> actually a victim of government lies and abuse ?  The answer is yes.
> 
> I have told President Trump and President Biden about abuse to me involving 
> BAH and Homeland Security with cover ups by the corrupt news media of in 
> America.  This involves but is by in no means limited to being poisoned in my 
> own home and having it be infested with spiders and ants.  That abuse alone 
> is enough to cause people to break down mentally and physically.  This is 
> covered up the the corrupt politicians in congress and senate and they all  
> hide from me like cowards.
> 
> Ban the Guns!  The first step is stop the abuse causing many people to break 
> down.
> 
> A couple of years ago I was poisoned in my own home while I was using the 
> computer and I suddenly went blind.  I needed to have eye surgery but I can 
> see now.
> 
> President Biden needs to explain who is going to pay the health
> costs for the many others being poisoned in their homes.   I am
> already covered and he should know that since I told him he is allowed to 
> access by medical records.
> 
> How do you know Sean is bipolar and not a victim of American government 
> hidden crimes ?  Does he have any evidence other than maybe a doctor who was 
> deceived by the government by them not knowing about these crimes?
> 
> JB
> 
>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 8:29 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys, Sean is bipolar. He's told us so, and it isn't entirely under his 
>> control. On the other hand, it isn't pleasant and it's disruptive.
>> 
>> Sean, the problem is, if the accusations and anger keep up, you may well be 
>> banned from the list. I understand it's hard to control, but you can't 
>> continue to berate people who've done you no harm and only mean the best. 
>> From where we are, the accusations seem unreasonable. Your targets don't 
>> know what they've done to make you angry.
>> 
>> BTW, I've never blocked anyone on any list and I read everything. But when 
>> you get angry, I ignore it. I know what's going on but no response would 
>> help.
>> 
>> I've also hijacked your thread and could have answered privately but I 
>> thought other listers might want to know why your recent posts are so 
>> combative.
>> 
>> 
>> <https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/bipolar-disorder/symptoms
>> />
>> 
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>> | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> 
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RE: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I talk politics(including health care) all the time(ask Margaret) but this list 
is not the place for me. It's not because of some "rule" or "I'm afraid to show 
my political cards". It's for the same reason I don’t do it at RR conferences. 
I want to glean and learn as much information from my colleagues as possible. 
Even while having a pint at an RR event I learn more about our field than when 
I'm hanging with friends. So I will have a few pints with you good folks and 
maybe strum some chords or tinkle the ivories(music and the arts are my 
exception) but I try to limit the exchanging ideas to our field for selfish 
reasons not because of any "rule" or proper decorum. But that's me...

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
John Balgenorth via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2021 11:55 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: John Balgenorth
Subject: Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

If Sean has said he is bipolar then is it possible he is mistaken and actually 
a victim of government lies and abuse ?  The answer is yes.

I have told President Trump and President Biden about abuse to me involving BAH 
and Homeland Security with cover ups by the corrupt news media of in America.  
This involves but is by in no means limited to being poisoned in my own home 
and having it be infested with spiders and ants.  That abuse alone is enough to 
cause people to break down mentally and physically.  This is covered up the the 
corrupt politicians in congress and senate and they all  hide from me like 
cowards.

Ban the Guns!  The first step is stop the abuse causing many people to break 
down.

A couple of years ago I was poisoned in my own home while I was using the 
computer and I suddenly went blind.  I needed to have eye surgery but I can see 
now.

President Biden needs to explain who is going to pay the health
costs for the many others being poisoned in their homes.   I am
already covered and he should know that since I told him he is allowed to 
access by medical records.

How do you know Sean is bipolar and not a victim of American government hidden 
crimes ?  Does he have any evidence other than maybe a doctor who was deceived 
by the government by them not knowing about these crimes?

JB

> On Apr 8, 2021, at 8:29 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guys, Sean is bipolar. He's told us so, and it isn't entirely under his 
> control. On the other hand, it isn't pleasant and it's disruptive.
> 
> Sean, the problem is, if the accusations and anger keep up, you may well be 
> banned from the list. I understand it's hard to control, but you can't 
> continue to berate people who've done you no harm and only mean the best. 
> From where we are, the accusations seem unreasonable. Your targets don't know 
> what they've done to make you angry.
> 
> BTW, I've never blocked anyone on any list and I read everything. But when 
> you get angry, I ignore it. I know what's going on but no response would help.
> 
> I've also hijacked your thread and could have answered privately but I 
> thought other listers might want to know why your recent posts are so 
> combative.
> 
> 
> <https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/bipolar-disorder/symptoms
> />
> 
> --
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> | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[John Balgenorth via use-livecode]

I have been exposing these crimes for over 20 years and I can assure
you that is wishful thinking on your part.  Booz, Allen, Hamilton are a
global company and they are connected at every aspect of the US
government and probably many others.

I went blind and that was for 6 months.  My phone was disconnected
around 8 years ago and I was blocked from getting a phone.  I can
tell you a lot but the issue is about Sean and maybe Kevin being
victims of similar abuse.

We live in a complex world that is does not have boundaries at the
American border.

JB

> On Apr 8, 2021, at 9:22 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I mistakenly remembered the diagnosis, for which Sean was gracious. However, 
> the US government is unlikely to be involved since Sean is in the UK where 
> they actually have humane health care.
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> On April 8, 2021 10:57:05 AM John Balgenorth via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know Sean is bipolar and not a victim of American
>> government hidden crimes ?
> 
> 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I mistakenly remembered the diagnosis, for which Sean was gracious. 
However, the US government is unlikely to be involved since Sean is in the 
UK where they actually have humane health care.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On April 8, 2021 10:57:05 AM John Balgenorth via use-livecode 
 wrote:




How do you know Sean is bipolar and not a victim of American
government hidden crimes ?




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RE: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode]

After Kevin Miller explained his fight to overcome depressions at
https://annihilatedepression.com/ I can remember that Sean had already
explained his illness in a long thread some time ago.

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of Sean
Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Sent: donderdag 8 april 2021 17:53
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Sean Cole (Pi) 
Subject: Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

No problem, thanks Jacque.
Just to kindly correct, it's not bipolar, it's BPD, Borderline Personality
Disorder, or Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder. But in this instance
this is not an excuse I am using as I'm actually fairly in control as it
happens. I only mentioned it as a warning to to carry on pushing it.
I had made it clear, or so I thought, that anything except the specific
answer to a very specific question was unwanted. This was certainly not me
at my worst. Curry did the right thing in trying to diffuse the situation.
Only to be ruined by others disrespectfulness afterward. I am Only
disrespectful to those who show disrespect.

<
https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/
symptoms/
>

Sean


On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 16:27, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Guys, Sean is bipolar. He's told us so, and it isn't entirely under 
> his control. On the other hand, it isn't pleasant and it's disruptive.
>
> Sean, the problem is, if the accusations and anger keep up, you may 
> well be banned from the list. I understand it's hard to control, but 
> you can't continue to berate people who've done you no harm and only 
> mean the best.
> From where we are, the accusations seem unreasonable. Your targets 
> don't know what they've done to make you angry.
>
> BTW, I've never blocked anyone on any list and I read everything. But 
> when you get angry, I ignore it. I know what's going on but no 
> response would help.
>
> I've also hijacked your thread and could have answered privately but I 
> thought other listers might want to know why your recent posts are so 
> combative.
>
>
> <https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/bipolar-disorder/symptoms
> />
>
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> | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[John Balgenorth via use-livecode]

If Sean has said he is bipolar then is it possible he is mistaken and
actually a victim of government lies and abuse ?  The answer is
yes.

I have told President Trump and President Biden about abuse to
me involving BAH and Homeland Security with cover ups by the
corrupt news media of in America.  This involves but is by in no
means limited to being poisoned in my own home and having it
be infested with spiders and ants.  That abuse alone is enough
to cause people to break down mentally and physically.  This is
covered up the the corrupt politicians in congress and senate
and they all  hide from me like cowards.

Ban the Guns!  The first step is stop the abuse causing many
people to break down.

A couple of years ago I was poisoned in my own home while I
was using the computer and I suddenly went blind.  I needed
to have eye surgery but I can see now.

President Biden needs to explain who is going to pay the health
costs for the many others being poisoned in their homes.   I am
already covered and he should know that since I told him he is
allowed to access by medical records.

How do you know Sean is bipolar and not a victim of American
government hidden crimes ?  Does he have any evidence other
than maybe a doctor who was deceived by the government by
them not knowing about these crimes?

JB

> On Apr 8, 2021, at 8:29 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guys, Sean is bipolar. He's told us so, and it isn't entirely under his 
> control. On the other hand, it isn't pleasant and it's disruptive.
> 
> Sean, the problem is, if the accusations and anger keep up, you may well be 
> banned from the list. I understand it's hard to control, but you can't 
> continue to berate people who've done you no harm and only mean the best. 
> From where we are, the accusations seem unreasonable. Your targets don't know 
> what they've done to make you angry.
> 
> BTW, I've never blocked anyone on any list and I read everything. But when 
> you get angry, I ignore it. I know what's going on but no response would help.
> 
> I've also hijacked your thread and could have answered privately but I 
> thought other listers might want to know why your recent posts are so 
> combative.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

No problem, thanks Jacque.
Just to kindly correct, it's not bipolar, it's BPD, Borderline Personality
Disorder, or Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder. But in this
instance this is not an excuse I am using as I'm actually fairly in control
as it happens. I only mentioned it as a warning to to carry on pushing it.
I had made it clear, or so I thought, that anything except the specific
answer to a very specific question was unwanted. This was certainly not me
at my worst. Curry did the right thing in trying to diffuse the situation.
Only to be ruined by others disrespectfulness afterward. I am Only
disrespectful to those who show disrespect.

<
https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/symptoms/
>

Sean


On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 16:27, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Guys, Sean is bipolar. He's told us so, and it isn't entirely under his
> control. On the other hand, it isn't pleasant and it's disruptive.
>
> Sean, the problem is, if the accusations and anger keep up, you may well
> be
> banned from the list. I understand it's hard to control, but you can't
> continue to berate people who've done you no harm and only mean the best.
> From where we are, the accusations seem unreasonable. Your targets don't
> know what they've done to make you angry.
>
> BTW, I've never blocked anyone on any list and I read everything. But when
> you get angry, I ignore it. I know what's going on but no response would
> help.
>
> I've also hijacked your thread and could have answered privately but I
> thought other listers might want to know why your recent posts are so
> combative.
>
>
> 
>
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Thanks Jacqueline. I'll take that into consideration in future posts. 

Bob S


> On Apr 8, 2021, at 08:27 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guys, Sean is bipolar. He's told us so, and it isn't entirely under his 
> control. On the other hand, it isn't pleasant and it's disruptive.
> 
> Sean, the problem is, if the accusations and anger keep up, you may well be 
> banned from the list. I understand it's hard to control, but you can't 
> continue to berate people who've done you no harm and only mean the best. 
> From where we are, the accusations seem unreasonable. Your targets don't know 
> what they've done to make you angry.
> 
> BTW, I've never blocked anyone on any list and I read everything. But when 
> you get angry, I ignore it. I know what's going on but no response would help.
> 
> I've also hijacked your thread and could have answered privately but I 
> thought other listers might want to know why your recent posts are so 
> combative.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Guys, Sean is bipolar. He's told us so, and it isn't entirely under his 
control. On the other hand, it isn't pleasant and it's disruptive.


Sean, the problem is, if the accusations and anger keep up, you may well be 
banned from the list. I understand it's hard to control, but you can't 
continue to berate people who've done you no harm and only mean the best. 
From where we are, the accusations seem unreasonable. Your targets don't 

know what they've done to make you angry.

BTW, I've never blocked anyone on any list and I read everything. But when 
you get angry, I ignore it. I know what's going on but no response would help.


I've also hijacked your thread and could have answered privately but I 
thought other listers might want to know why your recent posts are so 
combative.





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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi all,

It's gotten out of control, hasn't it. If you are told not to put your hand
in the snake pit and you still do and get bit, it should come as little
surprise to such a person that they get referred to as stupid, in the true
English meaning of the word.

I had asked specifically not to add in this kind of irrelevant nonsense and
to stay on topic. Just to answer the question asked specifically and
directly.

I am happy for you all to block me and not respond to my posts if you so
wish. I only rant at those who really deserve it based on their attitudes
towards hijacking threads and stupidity. I've helped and continue to help
plenty of people here in good manner. And I hold no grudges against any of
you. I help all discriminatorily. Even JB who told me to place my wang up
my own poo hole and do the dirty. Nice! He would probably never need my or
anyones help as he already knows everything to root level anyway.

Besides, this only ever happens in my own threads. Anyone elses I would be
respectful on as I would want them to be on mine. This is a community but
still contains some level of ownership individually.

Bob, I know you can't read this, but I don't rail against all people. Only
those who go out of their way to disrespect my specific requests and those
who demonstrate it and then get upset when I call them out for it. What has
happened on this thread was, if you look back over it, is completely
disrespectful to me before I got provoked into retaliation. If you don't
poke the lion, he won't turn around and bite you. It's that simple. Anyone
who can't get that must be a moron (a medical term denoting an adult with a
mental age of about 8-12) as mentioned.

Sean
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Fine but I am on JB side on this one. I suggest everyone just create a mail 
rule that sends Sean’s posts to the trash. That is what I have done. Maybe at 
some point he will finally get that railing against people inevitably 
accomplishes the exact opposite of his intent, which I think is to get people 
to change the way they respond on the list. But somehow I do not think he WILL 
get it. In fact I get the sense that he just likes to rail against people. This 
isn’t the first time. 

Bob S


> On Apr 8, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Keith Martin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mailing lists such as this aren’t perfect oracles and they’re not pure 
> technical reference sources either. Most importantly, they are not one-to-one 
> conversations; MANY more people will be reading a thread than may be actively 
> posting to it.
> 
> When a question is asked, people will respond with what they feel may be of 
> use. Sometimes it isn’t helpful, but often even those posts will help others 
> reading the thread to gain a better understanding of all sorts of areas 
> within the general topic.
> 
> I know I’ve learned a HUGE amount by reading threads on topics that 
> free-wheel around with all kinds of creative and sometimes off-target (and 
> even off topic) responses. For me, that is a big part of the value of a 
> mailing list. I don’t read every post in this or a number of other mailing 
> lists, but I keep everything for possible later trawling with searches. (I 
> have roughly 142k unread emails in my inbox – I practice inbox infinity 
> rather than inbox zero! But it works well for me.)
> 
> This is how mailing lists naturally work. If that’s not suitable, the forum 
> allows for a somewhat more focused approach to questions and answers. What’s 
> not so suitable or appropriate is personal abuse being thrown around. I don’t 
> know how many people are subscribed to this list, but it will not be a small 
> number. That’s a lot of inboxes. Frankly, anyone should be embarrassed to be 
> ’shouting’ at someone in such a large and semi-public environment.
> 
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Keith Martin via use-livecode]

Mailing lists such as this aren’t perfect oracles and they’re not pure 
technical reference sources either. Most importantly, they are not one-to-one 
conversations; MANY more people will be reading a thread than may be actively 
posting to it.

When a question is asked, people will respond with what they feel may be of 
use. Sometimes it isn’t helpful, but often even those posts will help others 
reading the thread to gain a better understanding of all sorts of areas within 
the general topic.

I know I’ve learned a HUGE amount by reading threads on topics that free-wheel 
around with all kinds of creative and sometimes off-target (and even off topic) 
responses. For me, that is a big part of the value of a mailing list. I don’t 
read every post in this or a number of other mailing lists, but I keep 
everything for possible later trawling with searches. (I have roughly 142k 
unread emails in my inbox – I practice inbox infinity rather than inbox zero! 
But it works well for me.)

This is how mailing lists naturally work. If that’s not suitable, the forum 
allows for a somewhat more focused approach to questions and answers. What’s 
not so suitable or appropriate is personal abuse being thrown around. I don’t 
know how many people are subscribed to this list, but it will not be a small 
number. That’s a lot of inboxes. Frankly, anyone should be embarrassed to be 
’shouting’ at someone in such a large and semi-public environment.

k out.

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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Anyone remember Amthony Black?

Craig

> On Apr 7, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice to hear from you
> Sean
> 
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 02:02, John Balgenorth via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> GO SCREW YOURSELF!
>> 
>> JB
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi JB
>>> So what I read from your message, appreciated as it is, that basically,
>> you
>>> hijacked my thread for your own intents and purposes of educating people
>>> about things loosely related to my question but without actually
>> answering
>>> said question and without changing the subject to one that better suits
>>> your purposes, maybe 'OT: C++ background to Find Replace in Script
>> Editor'
>>> . Thanks for your explanation of what you were trying to do. Perhaps next
>>> time, (as the post may well be helpful to those inclined to want the
>> extra
>>> in depth, beyond the OP, educating) you could indeed change the subject
>>> heading to note that you are going OT into other expanded territory. Does
>>> that sound fair?
>>> 
>>> What you have done is make it harder for people actually trying to find
>> the
>>> answer to my OP or similar (as hard as that may be to believe) that much
>>> harder to come across as they read through yours and others' dross! Do
>> you
>>> not see that? Can none of you see that? Bob, surely you can see it? My
>>> textual 'abuse' comes as the result of prodding to the point of utter
>>> provocation and MUST be seen as such. Had the answer been left to those
>> who
>>> KNOW and can directly and succinctly answer the question, this thread
>> would
>>> be a tiny gem of proper information, rather than the cesspool of
>>> irrelevance (and abuse from both sides) it has become. Disappointed, I
>> am!
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
 On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 01:19, John Balgenorth via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 This is a list of people reading and answering questions about LiveCode
 programming.  You might think my explanation of your typo was  not
 what you were looking for especially since I mentioned C and C++ in
 the reply. But  I personally answered the way I did for many reasons
 and even told you to ignore it if that was not what you wanted.  Some
 of the reasons I answered the way I did was that instead of pointing
 out it was a typo I  provided other users reading the message with
 info about why it was a typo. I have made the typo many times and
 I was not sure if you were misled by an error in the dictionary or  if
 it was a typo and I helped people learn the basics of why it was not
 going to work and that behavior of using backslash n  goes back to
 C++ which LiveCode is written in and C++ got the behavior from C.
 
 Another point is people were complaining LiveCode needs to be up
 on the list of programming languages and it was noted that the list
 is based on messages related to the language. Providing links with
 C and C++  and info helps people understand LiveCode better and
 any other language they learn in the future.
 
 So your question has value to many users and to LoveCode on a lot
 of different levels,  not just what you want to hear or learn or even be
 reminded of.
 
 In other words your complaints are invalid and a waste of your time
 with attempts to prevent others from learning.
 
 JB
 
> On Apr 7, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jacque,
> 
> That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
> knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
> prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!
> 
> I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read
 instructions
> or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
> likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
> demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL
>> out
> them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
> behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit'
>> whenever I
> am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive
 abuse
> and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.
> 
> I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would
 block
> my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
> surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one
 of
> those I can get the most sense from).
> 
> I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those
>> who
> trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they 

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Nice to hear from you
Sean

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 02:02, John Balgenorth via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> GO SCREW YOURSELF!
>
> JB
>
> > On Apr 7, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi JB
> > So what I read from your message, appreciated as it is, that basically,
> you
> > hijacked my thread for your own intents and purposes of educating people
> > about things loosely related to my question but without actually
> answering
> > said question and without changing the subject to one that better suits
> > your purposes, maybe 'OT: C++ background to Find Replace in Script
> Editor'
> > . Thanks for your explanation of what you were trying to do. Perhaps next
> > time, (as the post may well be helpful to those inclined to want the
> extra
> > in depth, beyond the OP, educating) you could indeed change the subject
> > heading to note that you are going OT into other expanded territory. Does
> > that sound fair?
> >
> > What you have done is make it harder for people actually trying to find
> the
> > answer to my OP or similar (as hard as that may be to believe) that much
> > harder to come across as they read through yours and others' dross! Do
> you
> > not see that? Can none of you see that? Bob, surely you can see it? My
> > textual 'abuse' comes as the result of prodding to the point of utter
> > provocation and MUST be seen as such. Had the answer been left to those
> who
> > KNOW and can directly and succinctly answer the question, this thread
> would
> > be a tiny gem of proper information, rather than the cesspool of
> > irrelevance (and abuse from both sides) it has become. Disappointed, I
> am!
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 01:19, John Balgenorth via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is a list of people reading and answering questions about LiveCode
> >> programming.  You might think my explanation of your typo was  not
> >> what you were looking for especially since I mentioned C and C++ in
> >> the reply. But  I personally answered the way I did for many reasons
> >> and even told you to ignore it if that was not what you wanted.  Some
> >> of the reasons I answered the way I did was that instead of pointing
> >> out it was a typo I  provided other users reading the message with
> >> info about why it was a typo. I have made the typo many times and
> >> I was not sure if you were misled by an error in the dictionary or  if
> >> it was a typo and I helped people learn the basics of why it was not
> >> going to work and that behavior of using backslash n  goes back to
> >> C++ which LiveCode is written in and C++ got the behavior from C.
> >>
> >> Another point is people were complaining LiveCode needs to be up
> >> on the list of programming languages and it was noted that the list
> >> is based on messages related to the language. Providing links with
> >> C and C++  and info helps people understand LiveCode better and
> >> any other language they learn in the future.
> >>
> >> So your question has value to many users and to LoveCode on a lot
> >> of different levels,  not just what you want to hear or learn or even be
> >> reminded of.
> >>
> >> In other words your complaints are invalid and a waste of your time
> >> with attempts to prevent others from learning.
> >>
> >> JB
> >>
> >>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Jacque,
> >>>
> >>> That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
> >>> knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
> >>> prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!
> >>>
> >>> I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read
> >> instructions
> >>> or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
> >>> likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
> >>> demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL
> out
> >>> them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
> >>> behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit'
> whenever I
> >>> am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive
> >> abuse
> >>> and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.
> >>>
> >>> I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would
> >> block
> >>> my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
> >>> surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one
> >> of
> >>> those I can get the most sense from).
> >>>
> >>> I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those
> who
> >>> trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they choose
> to
> >>> block me. No real loss to me as they are clearly unable to offer me
> >>> anything anyway other than try to pain me with threats of something
> 

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[John Balgenorth via use-livecode]

GO SCREW YOURSELF!

JB

> On Apr 7, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi JB
> So what I read from your message, appreciated as it is, that basically, you
> hijacked my thread for your own intents and purposes of educating people
> about things loosely related to my question but without actually answering
> said question and without changing the subject to one that better suits
> your purposes, maybe 'OT: C++ background to Find Replace in Script Editor'
> . Thanks for your explanation of what you were trying to do. Perhaps next
> time, (as the post may well be helpful to those inclined to want the extra
> in depth, beyond the OP, educating) you could indeed change the subject
> heading to note that you are going OT into other expanded territory. Does
> that sound fair?
> 
> What you have done is make it harder for people actually trying to find the
> answer to my OP or similar (as hard as that may be to believe) that much
> harder to come across as they read through yours and others' dross! Do you
> not see that? Can none of you see that? Bob, surely you can see it? My
> textual 'abuse' comes as the result of prodding to the point of utter
> provocation and MUST be seen as such. Had the answer been left to those who
> KNOW and can directly and succinctly answer the question, this thread would
> be a tiny gem of proper information, rather than the cesspool of
> irrelevance (and abuse from both sides) it has become. Disappointed, I am!
> 
> Sean
> 
>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 01:19, John Balgenorth via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is a list of people reading and answering questions about LiveCode
>> programming.  You might think my explanation of your typo was  not
>> what you were looking for especially since I mentioned C and C++ in
>> the reply. But  I personally answered the way I did for many reasons
>> and even told you to ignore it if that was not what you wanted.  Some
>> of the reasons I answered the way I did was that instead of pointing
>> out it was a typo I  provided other users reading the message with
>> info about why it was a typo. I have made the typo many times and
>> I was not sure if you were misled by an error in the dictionary or  if
>> it was a typo and I helped people learn the basics of why it was not
>> going to work and that behavior of using backslash n  goes back to
>> C++ which LiveCode is written in and C++ got the behavior from C.
>> 
>> Another point is people were complaining LiveCode needs to be up
>> on the list of programming languages and it was noted that the list
>> is based on messages related to the language. Providing links with
>> C and C++  and info helps people understand LiveCode better and
>> any other language they learn in the future.
>> 
>> So your question has value to many users and to LoveCode on a lot
>> of different levels,  not just what you want to hear or learn or even be
>> reminded of.
>> 
>> In other words your complaints are invalid and a waste of your time
>> with attempts to prevent others from learning.
>> 
>> JB
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Jacque,
>>> 
>>> That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
>>> knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
>>> prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!
>>> 
>>> I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read
>> instructions
>>> or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
>>> likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
>>> demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL out
>>> them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
>>> behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit' whenever I
>>> am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive
>> abuse
>>> and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.
>>> 
>>> I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would
>> block
>>> my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
>>> surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one
>> of
>>> those I can get the most sense from).
>>> 
>>> I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those who
>>> trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they choose to
>>> block me. No real loss to me as they are clearly unable to offer me
>>> anything anyway other than try to pain me with threats of something like:
>>> 'OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".'. Aww, I'm
>> so
>>> stabbed to the heart by the pettiness.
>>> 
>>> All the best to the best of you all. The rest can rest in the best place
>> of
>>> all - somewhere else ;)
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
 On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 19:23, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
 

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi JB
So what I read from your message, appreciated as it is, that basically, you
hijacked my thread for your own intents and purposes of educating people
about things loosely related to my question but without actually answering
said question and without changing the subject to one that better suits
your purposes, maybe 'OT: C++ background to Find Replace in Script Editor'
. Thanks for your explanation of what you were trying to do. Perhaps next
time, (as the post may well be helpful to those inclined to want the extra
in depth, beyond the OP, educating) you could indeed change the subject
heading to note that you are going OT into other expanded territory. Does
that sound fair?

What you have done is make it harder for people actually trying to find the
answer to my OP or similar (as hard as that may be to believe) that much
harder to come across as they read through yours and others' dross! Do you
not see that? Can none of you see that? Bob, surely you can see it? My
textual 'abuse' comes as the result of prodding to the point of utter
provocation and MUST be seen as such. Had the answer been left to those who
KNOW and can directly and succinctly answer the question, this thread would
be a tiny gem of proper information, rather than the cesspool of
irrelevance (and abuse from both sides) it has become. Disappointed, I am!

Sean

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 01:19, John Balgenorth via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> This is a list of people reading and answering questions about LiveCode
> programming.  You might think my explanation of your typo was  not
> what you were looking for especially since I mentioned C and C++ in
> the reply. But  I personally answered the way I did for many reasons
> and even told you to ignore it if that was not what you wanted.  Some
> of the reasons I answered the way I did was that instead of pointing
> out it was a typo I  provided other users reading the message with
> info about why it was a typo. I have made the typo many times and
> I was not sure if you were misled by an error in the dictionary or  if
> it was a typo and I helped people learn the basics of why it was not
> going to work and that behavior of using backslash n  goes back to
> C++ which LiveCode is written in and C++ got the behavior from C.
>
> Another point is people were complaining LiveCode needs to be up
> on the list of programming languages and it was noted that the list
> is based on messages related to the language. Providing links with
> C and C++  and info helps people understand LiveCode better and
> any other language they learn in the future.
>
> So your question has value to many users and to LoveCode on a lot
> of different levels,  not just what you want to hear or learn or even be
> reminded of.
>
> In other words your complaints are invalid and a waste of your time
> with attempts to prevent others from learning.
>
> JB
>
> > On Apr 7, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jacque,
> >
> > That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
> > knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
> > prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!
> >
> > I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read
> instructions
> > or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
> > likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
> > demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL out
> > them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
> > behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit' whenever I
> > am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive
> abuse
> > and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.
> >
> > I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would
> block
> > my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
> > surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one
> of
> > those I can get the most sense from).
> >
> > I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those who
> > trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they choose to
> > block me. No real loss to me as they are clearly unable to offer me
> > anything anyway other than try to pain me with threats of something like:
> > 'OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".'. Aww, I'm
> so
> > stabbed to the heart by the pettiness.
> >
> > All the best to the best of you all. The rest can rest in the best place
> of
> > all - somewhere else ;)
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >> On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 19:23, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 4/7/21 10:46 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
> >>> I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr
> >> using
> >>> the replace field of the 

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[John Balgenorth via use-livecode]

This is a list of people reading and answering questions about LiveCode
programming.  You might think my explanation of your typo was  not
what you were looking for especially since I mentioned C and C++ in
the reply. But  I personally answered the way I did for many reasons
and even told you to ignore it if that was not what you wanted.  Some
of the reasons I answered the way I did was that instead of pointing
out it was a typo I  provided other users reading the message with
info about why it was a typo. I have made the typo many times and
I was not sure if you were misled by an error in the dictionary or  if
it was a typo and I helped people learn the basics of why it was not
going to work and that behavior of using backslash n  goes back to
C++ which LiveCode is written in and C++ got the behavior from C.

Another point is people were complaining LiveCode needs to be up
on the list of programming languages and it was noted that the list
is based on messages related to the language. Providing links with
C and C++  and info helps people understand LiveCode better and
any other language they learn in the future.

So your question has value to many users and to LoveCode on a lot
of different levels,  not just what you want to hear or learn or even be
reminded of.

In other words your complaints are invalid and a waste of your time
with attempts to prevent others from learning.

JB

> On Apr 7, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jacque,
> 
> That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
> knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
> prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!
> 
> I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read instructions
> or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
> likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
> demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL out
> them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
> behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit' whenever I
> am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive abuse
> and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.
> 
> I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would block
> my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
> surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one of
> those I can get the most sense from).
> 
> I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those who
> trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they choose to
> block me. No real loss to me as they are clearly unable to offer me
> anything anyway other than try to pain me with threats of something like:
> 'OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".'. Aww, I'm so
> stabbed to the heart by the pettiness.
> 
> All the best to the best of you all. The rest can rest in the best place of
> all - somewhere else ;)
> 
> Sean
> 
>> On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 19:23, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/7/21 10:46 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
>>> I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr
>> using
>>> the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY.
>>> 
>>> I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need
>>> explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just answer the sodding
>> question.
>>> 
>>> Answer nothing but this PLEASE.
>> 
>> The answer is "no."
>> 
>>> 
>>> This is why I end up getting mad! I even just explained this in my last
>>> post. Why are you all unable to READ!!! ???
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> PS
>>> Morons. I'm offended by your
>> 
>> Insulting people when they are just trying to help is a good way to get
>> ignored in the future.
>> 
>> --
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>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Who, those who can't read simple instructions. I agree. ;)
Sean

On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 00:10, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I vote to ban.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 2021, at 15:59 , Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jacque,
> >
> > That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
> > knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
> > prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!
> >
> > I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read
> instructions
> > or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
> > likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
> > demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL out
> > them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
> > behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit' whenever I
> > am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive
> abuse
> > and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.
> >
> > I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would
> block
> > my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
> > surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one
> of
> > those I can get the most sense from).
> >
> > I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those who
> > trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they choose to
> > block me. No real loss to me as they are clearly unable to offer me
> > anything anyway other than try to pain me with threats of something like:
> > 'OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".'. Aww, I'm
> so
> > stabbed to the heart by the pettiness.
> >
> > All the best to the best of you all. The rest can rest in the best place
> of
> > all - somewhere else ;)
> >
> > Sean
>
>
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I vote to ban. 

Bob S


> On Apr 7, 2021, at 15:59 , Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jacque,
> 
> That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
> knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
> prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!
> 
> I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read instructions
> or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
> likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
> demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL out
> them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
> behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit' whenever I
> am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive abuse
> and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.
> 
> I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would block
> my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
> surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one of
> those I can get the most sense from).
> 
> I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those who
> trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they choose to
> block me. No real loss to me as they are clearly unable to offer me
> anything anyway other than try to pain me with threats of something like:
> 'OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".'. Aww, I'm so
> stabbed to the heart by the pettiness.
> 
> All the best to the best of you all. The rest can rest in the best place of
> all - somewhere else ;)
> 
> Sean


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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Thanks Jacque,

That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive,
knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course
prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho!

I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read instructions
or get simple explanations. I had literally JUST said NOT to offer the
likes of workaround buttons, plugins, etc. If they are so thick and
demonstrate it by their (unneeded, unnecessary) responses then I WILL out
them. I've seriously had enough of just 'putting-up' with this kind of
behaviour anywhere and have vowed to continue in this 'spirit' whenever I
am met with stupidity and ignorance. Here or anywhere. It is passive abuse
and should be more intolerable than my provoked retaliations.

I thought you, Jacque, had already blacklisted me and said you would block
my messages because of one of my previous provoked 'incidents', so I am
surprised I got a response from you at all (although you mostly are one of
those I can get the most sense from).

I truly value those who value me and who can respect my needs. Those who
trample and disrespect I owe nothing to and do not care if they choose to
block me. No real loss to me as they are clearly unable to offer me
anything anyway other than try to pain me with threats of something like:
'OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".'. Aww, I'm so
stabbed to the heart by the pettiness.

All the best to the best of you all. The rest can rest in the best place of
all - somewhere else ;)

Sean

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 19:23, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 4/7/21 10:46 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
> > I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr
> using
> > the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY.
> >
> > I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need
> > explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just answer the sodding
> question.
> >
> > Answer nothing but this PLEASE.
>
> The answer is "no."
>
> >
> > This is why I end up getting mad! I even just explained this in my last
> > post. Why are you all unable to READ!!! ???
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > PS
> > Morons. I'm offended by your
>
> Insulting people when they are just trying to help is a good way to get
> ignored in the future.
>
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Fair enough. You are no good for my BPD. You needn't even say NO. If you
don't have the answer, say nothing. You are not obliged to answer just
because you have the means.

Sean

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 23:09, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> On 07/04/2021 16:46, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
> > FFS Alex,
> >
> > I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr
> using
> > the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY.
>
> And now I have too. And I found that fun and interesting. Thank you for
> triggering this interesting activity for me. I'm sorry that my telling
> the list about it caused you offence, and then caused you to   try your
> best to offend me. Sorry - you didn't really succeed.
>
> > I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need
> > explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just answer the sodding
> question.
> >
> > Answer nothing but this PLEASE.
>
> OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".
>
> Alex.
>
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

On 07/04/2021 16:46, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:

FFS Alex,

I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr using
the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY.


And now I have too. And I found that fun and interesting. Thank you for 
triggering this interesting activity for me. I'm sorry that my telling 
the list about it caused you offence, and then caused you to   try your 
best to offend me. Sorry - you didn't really succeed.



I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need
explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just answer the sodding question.

Answer nothing but this PLEASE.


OK. Any future question you ask, I will answer simply :"no".

Alex.


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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 4/7/21 10:46 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:

I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr using
the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY.

I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need
explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just answer the sodding question.

Answer nothing but this PLEASE.


The answer is "no."



This is why I end up getting mad! I even just explained this in my last
post. Why are you all unable to READ!!! ???

Sean

PS
Morons. I'm offended by your


Insulting people when they are just trying to help is a good way to get ignored 
in the future.

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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

tehe ;)
Thanks Curry - a bit of relief.

Sean

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 17:02, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> Sean:
>
>  > if there is a way of replacing using cr
>  > in the find/replace panel of the script editor.
>
> So what you are REALLY asking is whether nested style arrays and chained
> behaviors can be used with tsNet and DataGrid in a git-compatible
> environment to create an IDE within an IDE, via a creepy talking face
> emerging from the Test button and utilizing only whitespace and
> semicolons sprinkled among seemingly-random iterations of the first 17
> words of the song Imagine? ;)
>
>  > BUT IN THE FIND/REPLACE PANEL !!!??
>
> Oh, there! I don't know. I never trusted SE enough to use its replace.
> Good question! I agree, this is a simple Q and should be documented.
> Probably I would write a script for doing this; I'd trust it more.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Curry Kenworthy
>
> Custom Software Development
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Sean:

> if there is a way of replacing using cr
> in the find/replace panel of the script editor.

So what you are REALLY asking is whether nested style arrays and chained 
behaviors can be used with tsNet and DataGrid in a git-compatible 
environment to create an IDE within an IDE, via a creepy talking face 
emerging from the Test button and utilizing only whitespace and 
semicolons sprinkled among seemingly-random iterations of the first 17 
words of the song Imagine? ;)


> BUT IN THE FIND/REPLACE PANEL !!!??

Oh, there! I don't know. I never trusted SE enough to use its replace.
Good question! I agree, this is a simple Q and should be documented.
Probably I would write a script for doing this; I'd trust it more.

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

FFS Alex,

I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr using
the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY.

I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need
explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just answer the sodding question.

Answer nothing but this PLEASE.

This is why I end up getting mad! I even just explained this in my last
post. Why are you all unable to READ!!! ???

Sean

PS
Morons. I'm offended by your

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 15:07, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> I'm struggling a bit to understand how you intend to use this.
>
> You give an example of
>
> > *if*  field "Level" begins with "Director" and field "UserDisplay" is not
> > empty and field "UserDisplay" is not "All Agents" and the label of button
> > "Status" is "All Sales"*then*
> > *put*  pidbQueryDatabase( "SELECT * FROM QGNew where UserID = '" & (fld
> > "UserID" of card 17 stack "QGv3") \
> > & "' AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") \
> > & "' AND Status LIKE '%" & ("Sale") \
> > & "%' OR UserID = '" & (fld "UserID" of card 17 stack "QGv3") \
> > & "' AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") \
> > & "' AND Status LIKE '%" & ("Connect") \
> > & "%'") into tMsg
> BUT - that's no longer correct code; you need to add the "end if" after it.
>
> I don't see how any find/replace is going to do that successfully.
>
> You could tweak the script editor to allow some token to imply inserting
> a linefeed - but you'd still need to find the relevant end of statement
> and insert the 'end if' that you need.
>
>
> So (unless I'm missing something) you will finish up doing a scripted
> solution. Also, I do believe you will want to have the ease of use of
> using the find/replace panel to select only those lines which are to be
> modified (otherwise you are likely to pull in a number of cases you
> don't want).
>
> If it were me, I'd follow a process like :
>
> 1. identify the lines to be changed (parentheses for readability)
>
> find/replace   (put then) --->  (put /*change*/ then)
>
> 2. use a plugin / frontscript to allow some weird key to trigger the
> changes.
>
> Sample plugin (with thanks to Jacque for the outline)
>
> > on preOpenStack
> >if the long name of this stack is among the lines of the
> > frontscripts then
> >   put "---> passing" after msg
> >   pass preOpenStack
> >else
> >   insert the script of this stack onto front
> >end if
> > end preOpenStack
> >
> > on commandKeyDown whichKey  from Jacqueline Landman Gay
> >if ("editor field" is not in the name of the target and "script" is
> > not in the name of the target) \
> >  or the shiftkey is not down
> >then pass commandKeyDown
> >
> >local tSel, tNewSel
> >if whichKey = "+" then
> >   select text of the target
> >   put the selection into tSel
> >   repeat for each line L in tSel
> >  if L contains "then /*change*/ put" then
> > replace "then /*change*/ put" with "then " & CR & "put" in L
> > replace ("& " & quote) with ("\" & CR & "   & " & quote) in L
> > put CR & "end if" after L
> >  end if
> >  put L  after tNewSel
> >   end repeat
> >   set the text of the target to tNewSel
> >   select empty
> >else
> >   pass commandKeyDown
> >end if
> >setEditorDirty
> > end commandKeyDown
> >
> > private command setEditorDirty
> >type space
> >delete char (word 4 of the selectedchunk) of the target
> > end setEditorDirty
> >
>
>
> 3. ??? the srcipt editor has lost the "coloization" of the script. There
> is (or used to be) some way to restore that for the entire script - but
> I can't remember it. Hitting 'TAB' does it for the current handler but
> not for the whole script.
>
>
> So, I apologize - I've got carried away and provided a "creative"
> solution that is outside the remit of your question. So sue me :-)
>
> But since I had just finished reading Andre's book on plugins and
> development tools, this seemed like a good opportunity to try out
> creating a plugin.
>
> Alex.
>
> On 07/04/2021 06:16, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > So, the semicolon example was only given as an oversimplification because
> > most of you didn't read the original post properly, jumped to the
> > wrong conclusion and then offered irrelevant answers. But then, the
> > oversimplification gathered the same results of people jumping to the
> wrong
> > conclusion by not reading the posts correctly. (It wasn't helped by my /n
> > \n typo that was jumped on and assumed to be where I was going wrong. It
> is
> > the paradox of this forum. Make it comprehensive, people get lost and
> lose
> > the point and give the wrong answer. Make it simple and they read more
> into
> > it and then equally get it wrong.
> >
> > The code I deal with on a daily basis is infinitely more complex 

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

Hi Sean,

I'm struggling a bit to understand how you intend to use this.

You give an example of


*if*  field "Level" begins with "Director" and field "UserDisplay" is not
empty and field "UserDisplay" is not "All Agents" and the label of button
"Status" is "All Sales"*then*
*put*  pidbQueryDatabase( "SELECT * FROM QGNew where UserID = '" & (fld
"UserID" of card 17 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND Status LIKE '%" & ("Sale") \
& "%' OR UserID = '" & (fld "UserID" of card 17 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND Status LIKE '%" & ("Connect") \
& "%'") into tMsg

BUT - that's no longer correct code; you need to add the "end if" after it.

I don't see how any find/replace is going to do that successfully.

You could tweak the script editor to allow some token to imply inserting 
a linefeed - but you'd still need to find the relevant end of statement 
and insert the 'end if' that you need.



So (unless I'm missing something) you will finish up doing a scripted 
solution. Also, I do believe you will want to have the ease of use of 
using the find/replace panel to select only those lines which are to be 
modified (otherwise you are likely to pull in a number of cases you 
don't want).


If it were me, I'd follow a process like :

1. identify the lines to be changed (parentheses for readability)

find/replace   (put then) --->  (put /*change*/ then)

2. use a plugin / frontscript to allow some weird key to trigger the 
changes.


Sample plugin (with thanks to Jacque for the outline)


on preOpenStack
   if the long name of this stack is among the lines of the 
frontscripts then

  put "---> passing" after msg
  pass preOpenStack
   else
  insert the script of this stack onto front
   end if
end preOpenStack

on commandKeyDown whichKey  from Jacqueline Landman Gay
   if ("editor field" is not in the name of the target and "script" is 
not in the name of the target) \

 or the shiftkey is not down
   then pass commandKeyDown

   local tSel, tNewSel
   if whichKey = "+" then
  select text of the target
  put the selection into tSel
  repeat for each line L in tSel
 if L contains "then /*change*/ put" then
    replace "then /*change*/ put" with "then " & CR & "put" in L
    replace ("& " & quote) with ("\" & CR & "   & " & quote) in L
    put CR & "end if" after L
 end if
 put L  after tNewSel
  end repeat
  set the text of the target to tNewSel
  select empty
   else
  pass commandKeyDown
   end if
   setEditorDirty
end commandKeyDown

private command setEditorDirty
   type space
   delete char (word 4 of the selectedchunk) of the target
end setEditorDirty




3. ??? the srcipt editor has lost the "coloization" of the script. There 
is (or used to be) some way to restore that for the entire script - but 
I can't remember it. Hitting 'TAB' does it for the current handler but 
not for the whole script.



So, I apologize - I've got carried away and provided a "creative" 
solution that is outside the remit of your question. So sue me :-)


But since I had just finished reading Andre's book on plugins and 
development tools, this seemed like a good opportunity to try out 
creating a plugin.


Alex.

On 07/04/2021 06:16, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:

Hi all,
So, the semicolon example was only given as an oversimplification because
most of you didn't read the original post properly, jumped to the
wrong conclusion and then offered irrelevant answers. But then, the
oversimplification gathered the same results of people jumping to the wrong
conclusion by not reading the posts correctly. (It wasn't helped by my /n
\n typo that was jumped on and assumed to be where I was going wrong. It is
the paradox of this forum. Make it comprehensive, people get lost and lose
the point and give the wrong answer. Make it simple and they read more into
it and then equally get it wrong.

The code I deal with on a daily basis is infinitely more complex than a
simple - put the script of someThing into tscript; replace “;” with “;” &
cr in script; Set the script of someThing to tscript - and can do that kind
of thing in my sleep (as I often do, but infinitely more complex).

So, I KNOW all of these SCRIPTING techniques. I'm not interested! I can do
that. NOT A PROBLEM :)

BUT IN THE FIND/REPLACE PANEL !!!??

Can I use a return character (or a wildcard, escaped, coded form) in the
REPLACE field OF THE PANEL. - A simple question.

You CAN use RegEx in the FIND Field. In there you can SEARCH for \n ((I got
it right this time)) which refers to a line feed (or new line). BUT, you
CANNOT, it seems, as best I can find or from the comments made, use \n to
replace or insert a line feed.

In my scripts (the several thousands of them) there are NO (zero, none)
semicolons used to separate commands. It was used ONLY to help give you a

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi all,
So, the semicolon example was only given as an oversimplification because
most of you didn't read the original post properly, jumped to the
wrong conclusion and then offered irrelevant answers. But then, the
oversimplification gathered the same results of people jumping to the wrong
conclusion by not reading the posts correctly. (It wasn't helped by my /n
\n typo that was jumped on and assumed to be where I was going wrong. It is
the paradox of this forum. Make it comprehensive, people get lost and lose
the point and give the wrong answer. Make it simple and they read more into
it and then equally get it wrong.

The code I deal with on a daily basis is infinitely more complex than a
simple - put the script of someThing into tscript; replace “;” with “;” &
cr in script; Set the script of someThing to tscript - and can do that kind
of thing in my sleep (as I often do, but infinitely more complex).

So, I KNOW all of these SCRIPTING techniques. I'm not interested! I can do
that. NOT A PROBLEM :)

BUT IN THE FIND/REPLACE PANEL !!!??

Can I use a return character (or a wildcard, escaped, coded form) in the
REPLACE field OF THE PANEL. - A simple question.

You CAN use RegEx in the FIND Field. In there you can SEARCH for \n ((I got
it right this time)) which refers to a line feed (or new line). BUT, you
CANNOT, it seems, as best I can find or from the comments made, use \n to
replace or insert a line feed.

In my scripts (the several thousands of them) there are NO (zero, none)
semicolons used to separate commands. It was used ONLY to help give you a
simpler idea of what I was trying to achieve without having to use too much
detail. But this kind of dialogue on a forum filled with 'clever' people
trying to demonstrate how clever they are means they often miss the point
and give answers that do not fulfil the remit! Or just answer a simple
ruddy question.

Here, then, is a 'Real World' example of what I am facing. There are many
variants and not my only issue, but a useful example, sample, demonstration.


*[code]if* field "Level" begins with "Director" and field "UserDisplay" is
not empty and field "UserDisplay" is not "All Agents" and the label of
button "Status" is "All Sales" *then* *put* pidbQueryDatabase( "SELECT *
FROM QGNew where UserID = '" & (fld "UserID" of card 17 stack "QGv3") & "'
AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") & "' AND Status
LIKE '%" & ("Sale") & "%' OR UserID = '" & (fld "UserID" of card 17 stack
"QGv3") & "' AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") & "'
AND Status LIKE '%" & ("Connect") & "%'") into tMsg
[/code]
That is all on a single line of a script in one of many thousand buttons.
In and of itself is not so much a problem as it is just difficult for me to
plough through when working out what the script is doing. In this button
alone there are 32 lines similar in nature to this.

To make it easier for me to go through, as I arrive at each button to
simplify and correlate and combine into much more elegant code in the card
script, I would like to be able, IN THE FIND REPLACE PANEL, not by code or
porting or anything else, just to search and replace (& ") with (\ cr & ")
(parenthesis used here just to wrap the strings), and (then put) with (then
cr put). Hence, it will look a bit more like this:

[code]
*if* field "Level" begins with "Director" and field "UserDisplay" is not
empty and field "UserDisplay" is not "All Agents" and the label of button
"Status" is "All Sales" *then*
*put* pidbQueryDatabase( "SELECT * FROM QGNew where UserID = '" & (fld
"UserID" of card 17 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND Status LIKE '%" & ("Sale") \
& "%' OR UserID = '" & (fld "UserID" of card 17 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND DealerID = '" & (fld "DealerID" of card 1 stack "QGv3") \
& "' AND Status LIKE '%" & ("Connect") \
& "%'") into tMsg
[/code]

Ideally I'd want it even better than this eventually. But key to doing just
this for now was being able to use a return character in the replace field
of the find/replace panel.

My original question was 'Just wondering if there is a way of replacing
using cr in the find/replace panel of the script editor.'

A simple Yes or No would have been sufficient. Even better, a yes with a
'just use this form : x,y,z' as a sample. I just hoped someone had found a
simple method, especially as the guides and documentation are so woefully
out of date and incomplete. Something more than 'the meaning of life = 42'
and less than 'measuring gravity = the complete works of Sir Isaac Newton',
as long as it actually answers the question asked :)

(And please don't go into the simplification of the SQL requests, the 'if'
condition or any other poop. I'm FULLY aware of this to the nth degree and
is why I'm going through this poop-show of a stack. Over 10 years of
poor/bad/dirty coding that now needs cleaning and refactoring without
rebuilding from the ground up. I'm just working my 

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[doc hawk via use-livecode]

sean slipped

> For instance, suppose I have multiple commands on one line separated by ;
> and I want to search for semicolon and replace with semicolon followed by
> return character to drop the remaining script onto a new line.

put the script of someThing into tscript
replace “;” with “;” & cr in script
Set the script of someTHing to tscript
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

I understand why this will not work directly from the Find/Replace in the SE. 
That function does not know how to repace a semiColon with an actual return 
char.

But a button somewhere, or a plug-in if that is more convenient, with a very 
simple handler can. (Pseudo)

get the script of the objectOfInterest
replace “;” with return in it
set the script of the objectOfInterest to it

Done.

Craig

> On Apr 6, 2021, at 5:47 AM, John Balgenorth via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I haven’t been following this subject that close so I could be missing
> completely with my answer, but when writing code in C or C++ the
> /n is simply a  / and n characters not a carriage return.  The \n is
> used for a new line which is a carriage return.  If I am missing the
> point just ignore the post.
> 
> Forward slash n (/n) does not make a new  line.
> Back slash n (\n) does make a new line.
> 
> JB
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bob, Regex only appears to operate on the read of the text, so
>>   ;
>> in the *find* field will locate all of the places a semicolon is found, but
>> putting
>>   /n
>> into the *replace* field will not replace the ; with a cr
>> 
>> Brian, The project is huge and I don't yet have the time to invest in
>> porting it all to github just yet. As it is I have created my own simple
>> regex text operator that I copy/paste the script into.
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/glq6pco70d3zgt3/Screenshot%202021-04-06%20at%2006.21.22.png?dl=0
>> 
>> Richard, I've tried in the Find, Find and replace of the script editor and
>> the Find/Replace from the main menu. I can't seem to place a carriage
>> return (or line feed or whatever) into the replacement field. This is what
>> I am trying to achieve. Replace ";" with "cr" in myScript. I can do it in
>> code, but not from the find/replace windows. :(
>> 
>> Sean
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[John Balgenorth via use-livecode]

I haven’t been following this subject that close so I could be missing
completely with my answer, but when writing code in C or C++ the
/n is simply a  / and n characters not a carriage return.  The \n is
used for a new line which is a carriage return.  If I am missing the
point just ignore the post.

Forward slash n (/n) does not make a new  line.
Back slash n (\n) does make a new line.

JB

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:28 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob, Regex only appears to operate on the read of the text, so
>;
> in the *find* field will locate all of the places a semicolon is found, but
> putting
>/n
> into the *replace* field will not replace the ; with a cr
> 
> Brian, The project is huge and I don't yet have the time to invest in
> porting it all to github just yet. As it is I have created my own simple
> regex text operator that I copy/paste the script into.
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/glq6pco70d3zgt3/Screenshot%202021-04-06%20at%2006.21.22.png?dl=0
> 
> Richard, I've tried in the Find, Find and replace of the script editor and
> the Find/Replace from the main menu. I can't seem to place a carriage
> return (or line feed or whatever) into the replacement field. This is what
> I am trying to achieve. Replace ";" with "cr" in myScript. I can do it in
> code, but not from the find/replace windows. :(
> 
> Sean
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Bob, Regex only appears to operate on the read of the text, so
;
in the *find* field will locate all of the places a semicolon is found, but
putting
/n
into the *replace* field will not replace the ; with a cr

Brian, The project is huge and I don't yet have the time to invest in
porting it all to github just yet. As it is I have created my own simple
regex text operator that I copy/paste the script into.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/glq6pco70d3zgt3/Screenshot%202021-04-06%20at%2006.21.22.png?dl=0

Richard, I've tried in the Find, Find and replace of the script editor and
the Find/Replace from the main menu. I can't seem to place a carriage
return (or line feed or whatever) into the replacement field. This is what
I am trying to achieve. Replace ";" with "cr" in myScript. I can do it in
code, but not from the find/replace windows. :(

Sean
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

The Find feature in the Script Editor is limited to the script being viewed.

For larger-scope searches type Cmd-F in any other window.

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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

If using Atom would be helpful for your task, then ScriptTracker could 
facilitate that:

https://github.com/bwmilby/scriptTracker

It exports all of the scripts of a stack to files and can watch that directory 
for changes and automatically import the changes back into the stack.  (I would 
be curious at the performance on a project that large.)

Another option would be to use the code from button 1003 as inspiration to 
write a script that would make your change in all scripts in a stack (thinking 
of the logic that I used to get to every script of a stack without going into 
shared objects more than once).

I know you didn’t want to deal with doing it in code, but just wanted to offer 
a possibility.

Thanks,
Brian

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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> No. I mean using the find/replace tool panel of the script editor to insert
> line feed characters to create a new line.
> 
> For instance, suppose I have multiple commands on one line separated by ;
> and I want to search for semicolon and replace with semicolon followed by
> return character to drop the remaining script onto a new line. That kind of
> thing. It’s just easier than taking the whole script and pasting into
> another text editor to do the same operation. With 17,000 scripts to go
> through, it’s a bit tedious doing it by copy paste fix copy paste all the
> time.
> 
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 15:22, Craig Newman via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Of course you have to extract the script first (it is a property) then
>> work it, then reset the property/
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if there is a way of replacing using cr in the
>> find/replace
>>> panel of the script editor. For example, I have a lot of instances in my
>>> inherited code that has 'then put' ... that I want to put over two lines
>>> and then, if necessary add an end if later on. Is there a way to insert a
>>> cr between 'then' and 'put' from the panel? It would be useful to know
>> for
>>> other things too.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Sean
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Probably want to use regex then. 

Bob S


> On Apr 5, 2021, at 08:42 , Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> No. I mean using the find/replace tool panel of the script editor to insert
> line feed characters to create a new line.
> 
> For instance, suppose I have multiple commands on one line separated by ;
> and I want to search for semicolon and replace with semicolon followed by
> return character to drop the remaining script onto a new line. That kind of
> thing. It’s just easier than taking the whole script and pasting into
> another text editor to do the same operation. With 17,000 scripts to go
> through, it’s a bit tedious doing it by copy paste fix copy paste all the
> time.

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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

No. I mean using the find/replace tool panel of the script editor to insert
line feed characters to create a new line.

For instance, suppose I have multiple commands on one line separated by ;
and I want to search for semicolon and replace with semicolon followed by
return character to drop the remaining script onto a new line. That kind of
thing. It’s just easier than taking the whole script and pasting into
another text editor to do the same operation. With 17,000 scripts to go
through, it’s a bit tedious doing it by copy paste fix copy paste all the
time.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 15:22, Craig Newman via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Of course you have to extract the script first (it is a property) then
> work it, then reset the property/
>
> Craig
>
> > On Apr 3, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just wondering if there is a way of replacing using cr in the
> find/replace
> > panel of the script editor. For example, I have a lot of instances in my
> > inherited code that has 'then put' ... that I want to put over two lines
> > and then, if necessary add an end if later on. Is there a way to insert a
> > cr between 'then' and 'put' from the panel? It would be useful to know
> for
> > other things too.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Sean
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Of course you have to extract the script first (it is a property) then work it, 
then reset the property/

Craig

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if there is a way of replacing using cr in the find/replace
> panel of the script editor. For example, I have a lot of instances in my
> inherited code that has 'then put' ... that I want to put over two lines
> and then, if necessary add an end if later on. Is there a way to insert a
> cr between 'then' and 'put' from the panel? It would be useful to know for
> other things too.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Sean
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Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Hi.

Do you mean something like “replace “then put” with “then /“ & return & “put” 
in yourScript?

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering if there is a way of replacing using cr in the find/replace
> panel of the script editor. For example, I have a lot of instances in my
> inherited code that has 'then put' ... that I want to put over two lines
> and then, if necessary add an end if later on. Is there a way to insert a
> cr between 'then' and 'put' from the panel? It would be useful to know for
> other things too.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Sean
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