Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Most "mental blurps" pop out because their parents get up to something 
before that,
and many "mental blurps" grow up into interesting and creative people 
who contribute

greatly to society: we should all be grateful for "mental blurps".

Our society spends most of its time being nasty to "mental blurps" when 
it should be doing all it

can to encourage them.

Luckily most "little mental blurps" weather the storms of disapproval 
and those who would fit them into
rigid categories and grow up into . . . err . . . LiveCode programmers 
among many other things.


Richmond.

On 15/8/2018 9:28 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 8/15/18 11:12 AM, tbodine via use-livecode wrote:

To know and be your true self at such a young age is
like a super power.


My mom called my super power "stubborn brat." :)

Thanks to all who responded, these little mental blurps sometimes pop 
out independently.




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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-15 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 8/15/18 11:12 AM, tbodine via use-livecode wrote:

To know and be your true self at such a young age is
like a super power.


My mom called my super power "stubborn brat." :)

Thanks to all who responded, these little mental blurps sometimes pop 
out independently.


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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-15 Thread tbodine via use-livecode
Loved your story, JLG. To know and be your true self at such a young age is
like a super power.

(Let us all know when you tell your story on The Moth.)

-- Tom Bodine


Jacqueline Landman Gayl via use-livecode wrote
> A brief diversion:
> 
> I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and read 
> books up there as soon as I was able.
> 
> When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a chemistry set for my 
> birthday. My mom was shocked, didn't I want a nice doll? No, I wanted a 
> chemistry set. I got one, but was disappointed that the most advanced 
> thing it would do was write with "invisible ink" made from lemon juice. 
> I wanted to blow up the bathroom.
> 
> When I was approaching puberty I asked for a Kenner Girder and Panel 
> set. This was a bunch of preformed, snap-together plastic pieces that 
> allowed you to construct buildings and skyscrapters. My mom was 
> appalled. Wouldn't a nice play kitchen be better? No, it wouldn't.
> 
> When I went to college my mom nagged me constantly to wear more makeup, 
> paint my eyes like a boll weevil, and "do something with your hair," 
> preferably helmet hair. She kept telling me that was the only way to 
> catch a man. I told her I didn't want to catch one, I wanted to find one 
> who liked me for how I was. She was positive I would never marry. But I 
> did, and we still are, and my sister who wore more makeup masks and 
> slept in beer-can rollers is on her third husband.
> 
> I would never buy a girlie computer. Besides, I've never in my life had 
> long fingernails.
> 
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> Jacqueline Landman Gay | 

> jacque@

> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com





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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-15 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode



> On Aug 15, 2018, at 24:05 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cripes: Mark: is it thee or me who is getting long in the tooth? :)
> 
> When I want "to appeal" I get on my Flasher's Mac and stand around on wet 
> streets on Friday night;
> as we all do.
> 
> "Would you like to come up to my place and see my LiveCode?"
> 
> Richmond.

I'd be far more concerned about the person who answers, "Why yes, yes I would!" 
than you. :-)

Bob S


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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Cripes: Mark: is it thee or me who is getting long in the tooth? :)

When I want "to appeal" I get on my Flasher's Mac and stand around on 
wet streets on Friday night;

as we all do.

"Would you like to come up to my place and see my LiveCode?"

Richmond.

On 15/8/2018 7:11 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 08/14/2018 04:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you 


I think Richmond was aiming at a different target audience...


On 8/14/18 4:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

Dear Jacque,

I was appealing to the male


...Richmond, we're all fond of you, but I wouldn't go so far as to 
call you 'appealing'...




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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Oh dear, my reply was part of a story I like to tell because my parents 
had lots of well-meaning friends who were convinced that those stereotypes
were eternal verities, and had lots of sadistic fun informing my parents 
that I'd grow up to be 'queer': which I did, but not in the way they meant!


The most amusing thing in my childhood was watching the faces of those 
'friends' after they had pointed out that my setting up tea parties with
my sister's dolls (while she was zooming my toy cars around the place) 
was a 100% guarantee of something unsuitable in my later years, my father
pointed out that he was always getting into trouble for dressing up in 
his sister's clothes.


My father is, needless to say as normal as all the males in our family . 
. . and, what is more, has always stated that a child's play is a 
child's play and
adults should never, under any circumstances, interfere in it or try to 
steer it is some sort of 'suitable' direction.


I am quite sure that well-meaning adults interfering in a child's play 
does one hell of a lot of damage: while, if children are left to their own
devices they will reach some sort of satisfactory adulthood with a good 
modicum of contentment.


Richmond.

On 15/8/2018 2:53 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have 
you in mind...it's a story I tell often because my mother was so 
convinced that the old stereotypes were still valid and that I was a 
lost cause, which I never believed. :) And I think it's amusing when I 
look back and see how desperate she was to make a proper lady out of 
me at the same time it was going out of vogue. The times were 
changing, but she didn't get it.


I probably didn't put enough smileys in there, it didn't come off the 
same way it does in my head, which is fond amusement.


On 8/14/18 4:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

Dear Jacque,

I was appealing to the male contributors to this Use-List.

As a man who won prizes for sewing, cooking, flower-arranging, woodwork
and was a Sergeant in the school Cadet Force I am the last person to 
have any

truck with daft social stereotypes.

I am aware as the next person who has their head reasonably well 
screwed on that

there are male, female and in-between "Paris Hiltons".

You do not need to prove to me how "butch" you were; any more than my 
football teacher had to
start calling me  a "pansy" when he found me making daisy chains 
round the back of the goal

while other boys managed to score 3 goals because I wasn't there.

Love, Richmond.

On 15/8/2018 12:04 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 8/14/18 11:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5


A brief diversion:

I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and 
read books up there as soon as I was able.


When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a chemistry set for my 
birthday. My mom was shocked, didn't I want a nice doll? No, I 
wanted a chemistry set. I got one, but was disappointed that the 
most advanced thing it would do was write with "invisible ink" made 
from lemon juice. I wanted to blow up the bathroom.


When I was approaching puberty I asked for a Kenner Girder and Panel 
set. This was a bunch of preformed, snap-together plastic pieces 
that allowed you to construct buildings and skyscrapters. My mom was 
appalled. Wouldn't a nice play kitchen be better? No, it wouldn't.


When I went to college my mom nagged me constantly to wear more 
makeup, paint my eyes like a boll weevil, and "do something with 
your hair," preferably helmet hair. She kept telling me that was the 
only way to catch a man. I told her I didn't want to catch one, I 
wanted to find one who liked me for how I was. She was positive I 
would never marry. But I did, and we still are, and my sister who 
wore more makeup masks and slept in beer-can rollers is on her third 
husband.


I would never buy a girlie computer. Besides, I've never in my life 
had long fingernails.




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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 08/14/2018 04:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you 


I think Richmond was aiming at a different target audience...


On 8/14/18 4:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

Dear Jacque,

I was appealing to the male


...Richmond, we're all fond of you, but I wouldn't go so far as to call 
you 'appealing'...


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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
FWIW, I thought it was extremely funny! I think you should consider stand-up 
comedienne as a second career.

Roger

> On Aug 14, 2018, at 4:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you in 
> mind...it's a story I tell often because my mother was so convinced that the 
> old stereotypes were still valid and that I was a lost cause, which I never 
> believed. :) And I think it's amusing when I look back and see how desperate 
> she was to make a proper lady out of me at the same time it was going out of 
> vogue. The times were changing, but she didn't get it.
> 
> I probably didn't put enough smileys in there, it didn't come off the same 
> way it does in my head, which is fond amusement.
> 
> On 8/14/18 4:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>> Dear Jacque,
>> I was appealing to the male contributors to this Use-List.
>> As a man who won prizes for sewing, cooking, flower-arranging, woodwork
>> and was a Sergeant in the school Cadet Force I am the last person to have any
>> truck with daft social stereotypes.
>> I am aware as the next person who has their head reasonably well screwed on 
>> that
>> there are male, female and in-between "Paris Hiltons".
>> You do not need to prove to me how "butch" you were; any more than my 
>> football teacher had to
>> start calling me  a "pansy" when he found me making daisy chains round the 
>> back of the goal
>> while other boys managed to score 3 goals because I wasn't there.
>> Love, Richmond.
>> On 15/8/2018 12:04 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>>> On 8/14/18 11:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
 That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5
>>> 
>>> A brief diversion:
>>> 
>>> I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and read 
>>> books up there as soon as I was able.
>>> 
>>> When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a chemistry set for my 
>>> birthday. My mom was shocked, didn't I want a nice doll? No, I wanted a 
>>> chemistry set. I got one, but was disappointed that the most advanced thing 
>>> it would do was write with "invisible ink" made from lemon juice. I wanted 
>>> to blow up the bathroom.
>>> 
>>> When I was approaching puberty I asked for a Kenner Girder and Panel set. 
>>> This was a bunch of preformed, snap-together plastic pieces that allowed 
>>> you to construct buildings and skyscrapters. My mom was appalled. Wouldn't 
>>> a nice play kitchen be better? No, it wouldn't.
>>> 
>>> When I went to college my mom nagged me constantly to wear more makeup, 
>>> paint my eyes like a boll weevil, and "do something with your hair," 
>>> preferably helmet hair. She kept telling me that was the only way to catch 
>>> a man. I told her I didn't want to catch one, I wanted to find one who 
>>> liked me for how I was. She was positive I would never marry. But I did, 
>>> and we still are, and my sister who wore more makeup masks and slept in 
>>> beer-can rollers is on her third husband.
>>> 
>>> I would never buy a girlie computer. Besides, I've never in my life had 
>>> long fingernails.
>>> 
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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
I like your story. I get it. Too many smileys make me drool.
.Jerry

> On Aug 14, 2018, at 4:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you in 
> mind...it's a story I tell often because my mother was so convinced that the 
> old stereotypes were still valid and that I was a lost cause, which I never 
> believed. :) And I think it's amusing when I look back and see how desperate 
> she was to make a proper lady out of me at the same time it was going out of 
> vogue. The times were changing, but she didn't get it.
> 
> I probably didn't put enough smileys in there, it didn't come off the same 
> way it does in my head, which is fond amusement.
> 
> On 8/14/18 4:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
>> Dear Jacque,
>> I was appealing to the male contributors to this Use-List.
>> As a man who won prizes for sewing, cooking, flower-arranging, woodwork
>> and was a Sergeant in the school Cadet Force I am the last person to have any
>> truck with daft social stereotypes.
>> I am aware as the next person who has their head reasonably well screwed on 
>> that
>> there are male, female and in-between "Paris Hiltons".
>> You do not need to prove to me how "butch" you were; any more than my 
>> football teacher had to
>> start calling me  a "pansy" when he found me making daisy chains round the 
>> back of the goal
>> while other boys managed to score 3 goals because I wasn't there.
>> Love, Richmond.
>> On 15/8/2018 12:04 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>>> On 8/14/18 11:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
 That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5
>>> 
>>> A brief diversion:
>>> 
>>> I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and read 
>>> books up there as soon as I was able.
>>> 
>>> When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a chemistry set for my 
>>> birthday. My mom was shocked, didn't I want a nice doll? No, I wanted a 
>>> chemistry set. I got one, but was disappointed that the most advanced thing 
>>> it would do was write with "invisible ink" made from lemon juice. I wanted 
>>> to blow up the bathroom.
>>> 
>>> When I was approaching puberty I asked for a Kenner Girder and Panel set. 
>>> This was a bunch of preformed, snap-together plastic pieces that allowed 
>>> you to construct buildings and skyscrapters. My mom was appalled. Wouldn't 
>>> a nice play kitchen be better? No, it wouldn't.
>>> 
>>> When I went to college my mom nagged me constantly to wear more makeup, 
>>> paint my eyes like a boll weevil, and "do something with your hair," 
>>> preferably helmet hair. She kept telling me that was the only way to catch 
>>> a man. I told her I didn't want to catch one, I wanted to find one who 
>>> liked me for how I was. She was positive I would never marry. But I did, 
>>> and we still are, and my sister who wore more makeup masks and slept in 
>>> beer-can rollers is on her third husband.
>>> 
>>> I would never buy a girlie computer. Besides, I've never in my life had 
>>> long fingernails.
>>> 
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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you 
in mind...it's a story I tell often because my mother was so convinced 
that the old stereotypes were still valid and that I was a lost cause, 
which I never believed. :) And I think it's amusing when I look back and 
see how desperate she was to make a proper lady out of me at the same 
time it was going out of vogue. The times were changing, but she didn't 
get it.


I probably didn't put enough smileys in there, it didn't come off the 
same way it does in my head, which is fond amusement.


On 8/14/18 4:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

Dear Jacque,

I was appealing to the male contributors to this Use-List.

As a man who won prizes for sewing, cooking, flower-arranging, woodwork
and was a Sergeant in the school Cadet Force I am the last person to 
have any

truck with daft social stereotypes.

I am aware as the next person who has their head reasonably well screwed 
on that

there are male, female and in-between "Paris Hiltons".

You do not need to prove to me how "butch" you were; any more than my 
football teacher had to
start calling me  a "pansy" when he found me making daisy chains round 
the back of the goal

while other boys managed to score 3 goals because I wasn't there.

Love, Richmond.

On 15/8/2018 12:04 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 8/14/18 11:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5


A brief diversion:

I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and 
read books up there as soon as I was able.


When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a chemistry set for my 
birthday. My mom was shocked, didn't I want a nice doll? No, I wanted 
a chemistry set. I got one, but was disappointed that the most 
advanced thing it would do was write with "invisible ink" made from 
lemon juice. I wanted to blow up the bathroom.


When I was approaching puberty I asked for a Kenner Girder and Panel 
set. This was a bunch of preformed, snap-together plastic pieces that 
allowed you to construct buildings and skyscrapters. My mom was 
appalled. Wouldn't a nice play kitchen be better? No, it wouldn't.


When I went to college my mom nagged me constantly to wear more 
makeup, paint my eyes like a boll weevil, and "do something with your 
hair," preferably helmet hair. She kept telling me that was the only 
way to catch a man. I told her I didn't want to catch one, I wanted to 
find one who liked me for how I was. She was positive I would never 
marry. But I did, and we still are, and my sister who wore more makeup 
masks and slept in beer-can rollers is on her third husband.


I would never buy a girlie computer. Besides, I've never in my life 
had long fingernails.




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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Dear Jacque,

I was appealing to the male contributors to this Use-List.

As a man who won prizes for sewing, cooking, flower-arranging, woodwork
and was a Sergeant in the school Cadet Force I am the last person to 
have any

truck with daft social stereotypes.

I am aware as the next person who has their head reasonably well screwed 
on that

there are male, female and in-between "Paris Hiltons".

You do not need to prove to me how "butch" you were; any more than my 
football teacher had to
start calling me  a "pansy" when he found me making daisy chains round 
the back of the goal

while other boys managed to score 3 goals because I wasn't there.

Love, Richmond.

On 15/8/2018 12:04 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 8/14/18 11:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5


A brief diversion:

I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and 
read books up there as soon as I was able.


When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a chemistry set for my 
birthday. My mom was shocked, didn't I want a nice doll? No, I wanted 
a chemistry set. I got one, but was disappointed that the most 
advanced thing it would do was write with "invisible ink" made from 
lemon juice. I wanted to blow up the bathroom.


When I was approaching puberty I asked for a Kenner Girder and Panel 
set. This was a bunch of preformed, snap-together plastic pieces that 
allowed you to construct buildings and skyscrapters. My mom was 
appalled. Wouldn't a nice play kitchen be better? No, it wouldn't.


When I went to college my mom nagged me constantly to wear more 
makeup, paint my eyes like a boll weevil, and "do something with your 
hair," preferably helmet hair. She kept telling me that was the only 
way to catch a man. I told her I didn't want to catch one, I wanted to 
find one who liked me for how I was. She was positive I would never 
marry. But I did, and we still are, and my sister who wore more makeup 
masks and slept in beer-can rollers is on her third husband.


I would never buy a girlie computer. Besides, I've never in my life 
had long fingernails.




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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 8/14/18 11:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5


A brief diversion:

I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and read 
books up there as soon as I was able.


When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a chemistry set for my 
birthday. My mom was shocked, didn't I want a nice doll? No, I wanted a 
chemistry set. I got one, but was disappointed that the most advanced 
thing it would do was write with "invisible ink" made from lemon juice. 
I wanted to blow up the bathroom.


When I was approaching puberty I asked for a Kenner Girder and Panel 
set. This was a bunch of preformed, snap-together plastic pieces that 
allowed you to construct buildings and skyscrapters. My mom was 
appalled. Wouldn't a nice play kitchen be better? No, it wouldn't.


When I went to college my mom nagged me constantly to wear more makeup, 
paint my eyes like a boll weevil, and "do something with your hair," 
preferably helmet hair. She kept telling me that was the only way to 
catch a man. I told her I didn't want to catch one, I wanted to find one 
who liked me for how I was. She was positive I would never marry. But I 
did, and we still are, and my sister who wore more makeup masks and 
slept in beer-can rollers is on her third husband.


I would never buy a girlie computer. Besides, I've never in my life had 
long fingernails.


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RE: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
42

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:17 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Richmond Mathewson
Subject: Re: Fun with Windows 10

6 x 7

On 14/8/2018 7:30 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
> On 08/14/2018 07:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> How long do we have?
>>
>> Bob S
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:23 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> So long, and thanks for all the fish.
>
> 8.5 x 11
>

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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

6 x 7

On 14/8/2018 7:30 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 08/14/2018 07:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

How long do we have?

Bob S


On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:23 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:


So long, and thanks for all the fish.


8.5 x 11



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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 08/14/2018 07:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

How long do we have?

Bob S



On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:23 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:

So long, and thanks for all the fish.


8.5 x 11

--
 Mark Wieder
 ahsoftw...@gmail.com

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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"Once you get beyond how cute they are, you'll find that netbooks can do 
a lot more than check your e-mail."


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30709961/ns/technology_and_science-digital_home/t/lets-market-pcs-its/#.W3MB7Edj0mI

I've never felt the need to have a cute computer; mainly 'cos I'm so 
cute even without a computer . . .


That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5:

https://youtu.be/2dEmWvVfEts

Bet you all want one too.

Richmond.

On 14/8/2018 5:39 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

If only Apple could be more like Dell, huh? 

Bob S



On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:33 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:

*Apple got too big for their boots and fell in love with marketing their 
expensive toys to Paris Hilton knock-offs.*



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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If only Apple could be more like Dell, huh? 

Bob S


> On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:33 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> *Apple got too big for their boots and fell in love with marketing their 
> expensive toys to Paris Hilton knock-offs.*
> 


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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
How long do we have?

Bob S


> On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:23 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> So long, and thanks for all the fish.


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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode



Howdy Richmond,


Read my previous reply


Your reply was not previous (to my message, that is); it was 10 minutes 
later.



That would have been very difficult indeed
as I was 100% unable to get at anything.


In the same message I addressed that possibility. So, if your student 
ever comes back with a legit copy of the OS, you can refer back here.



soothing my troubled breast


I'm glad! Enjoy. :)

Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/

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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Read my previous reply . . .

On 14/8/2018 4:13 pm, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:


Quickest route might be LC 6.7.

No matter which version, 6 8 9, if you can, turn off ALL update 
preferences/options.


*That would have been very difficult indeed as I was 100% unable to get 
at anything.**
**On launching LC 8, after the splash screen there was nothing. I could 
not even raise the MessageBox**
**even though the Windows resource manager told me LiveCode was still 
running.**

**
**The simple fact was that all versions of LiveCode did not come up with 
any of the GUI**

**because:**
**
**1. Pirate version of Windows 10 with NO anti-virus anything: probably 
had great big holes in its underpants.**

**
**2. System loaded with tons of pirated games.**
**
**3. Returned the machine, said a fair few strong words anent piracy, 
and will NOT touch any kid's machines**

**with Windows in Bulgaria again: learnt a nasty lesson.*


Check Task Manager and end any stray LC processes, especially an 
"Installer" or "Setup" process which is usually just an update check, 
but causes tons of issues. Furthermore I often deleted that setup file 
(it's .setup.exe in each IDE folder) and that's what you can do if you 
can't access the prefs.


Sometimes LC on Windows didn't launch correctly right after install - 
just end any processes, don't reinstall, and normally launch. Then it 
works.


Note that none of this "fun" is actually about Windows itself, it's 
just less LC familiarity and support for Windows, and perhaps fewer LC 
users on that side.


I switched to Windows soon after the point when Mac abandoned its 
original rigorous human interface research, because I have a little 
less fine motor control than the average person and Window provides a 
little more real estate for some of the controls.


*I switched to Linux when I couldn't afford the vast expense of buying 
Macintosh machines . . .**

**
**and found that Linux is much, much better than either Macintosh or 
Windows insofar as it allows**
**even uncoordinated types like myself very "fine motor control" with 
tweaking the system to the way I like things.*


That made Windows easier for me to use, just as the original HIG-aware 
Mac was easier than Windows. Yes, it was that simple! And very 
affordable, another helpful factor. Both companies have sort of lost 
the plot, so besides human interface and affordability, I don't have a 
dog in that race otherwise. :)


*Apple got too big for their boots and fell in love with marketing their 
expensive toys to Paris Hilton knock-offs.*


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

*Thanks for your best wishes: but at the moment a stiff cup of strong 
black coffee and a blast of music by Thomas Arne**

**are already soothing my troubled breast.**
**
**Richmond.*
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RE: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
6.76 thru 9.01 on a 1709 VM is OK.

I would have him blow away the prefs to
start==>\users\\AppData\Roaming\RunRev\Preference In that folder
delete or rename the Livecode*.rev files.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 5:20 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Richmond Mathewson
Subject: Fun with Windows 10

Not really, to be honest!

I have a pupil who has a PC running Windows 10 which he has stuffed "to the
gills" with just about everything he can lay his sweaty paws on . . .

He is supposed to be working on his LiveCode project for the Summer course
but has the following problem:

He has installed both 8.1.10 and 9.0 (even though I told him to stick with
8).

ON clicking on the symbolic link on the Windows desktop for LC 8.1.10
LiveCode starts up and shows the Start Center: no revMenubar and no revTools
bar.

I have tried ctrl-M to get the message box to tell the thing to show the
menubar and the Tools to no avail.

On dismissing the Start Center one is left with NOTHING.

Firing up LC 9  shows the squashed-caterpillar-green '9' splash screen
followed by NOTHING.

Obviously this won't do . . .

Richmond.
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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

I honestly don't know what would show up anything because . . .

I connected the boy's computer up to the internet at which point it 
asked me to register the OS & I put 2 & 2
together: disconnected the machine, popped down the road with it and 
gave the boy's Mum "a wigging"
about Pirate software and told her that until they installed either 
legit. Windows or an open source

OS on their machine they could "paddle their own canoe".

It was quite obvious this woman did not even begin to understand any of 
the ways pirate software might be wrong.


This is an "ongoing situation" in Bulgaria . . .

I suspected the woman would not understand the problem because she is a 
paralegal!


So long, and thanks for all the fish.

I'll just stick with Xubuntu and Mac OS.

Richmond.

On 14/8/2018 3:13 pm, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:

I tried both 8.1.1 and 9.0.1 in Windows 10 Home version 1803, and they were ok.

If you get Properties on the EXE, and “Run compatibility tourbleshooter”, does 
that show up anything?
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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode



Quickest route might be LC 6.7.

No matter which version, 6 8 9, if you can, turn off ALL update 
preferences/options.


Check Task Manager and end any stray LC processes, especially an 
"Installer" or "Setup" process which is usually just an update check, 
but causes tons of issues. Furthermore I often deleted that setup file 
(it's .setup.exe in each IDE folder) and that's what you can do if you 
can't access the prefs.


Sometimes LC on Windows didn't launch correctly right after install - 
just end any processes, don't reinstall, and normally launch. Then it works.


Note that none of this "fun" is actually about Windows itself, it's just 
less LC familiarity and support for Windows, and perhaps fewer LC users 
on that side.


I switched to Windows soon after the point when Mac abandoned its 
original rigorous human interface research, because I have a little less 
fine motor control than the average person and Window provides a little 
more real estate for some of the controls.


That made Windows easier for me to use, just as the original HIG-aware 
Mac was easier than Windows. Yes, it was that simple! And very 
affordable, another helpful factor. Both companies have sort of lost the 
plot, so besides human interface and affordability, I don't have a dog 
in that race otherwise. :)


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
LiveCode Training and Consulting
http://livecodeconsulting.com/

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Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I tried both 8.1.1 and 9.0.1 in Windows 10 Home version 1803, and they were ok.

If you get Properties on the EXE, and “Run compatibility tourbleshooter”, does 
that show up anything?
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