Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)
Yesterday I had LC hang when using the red dot on the same line as the breakpoint command. LC 9.5.1 Peter > On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:33 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > It was a hardcoded breakpoint in this form. > > If x<0 then breakpoint > > I wonder if inadvertently triggered "red dot" breakpoints when exiting can > cause the same hang? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Martin Koob via use-livecode > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:53 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Martin Koob > Subject: Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group > in Windows 10) > > Hi Ralph > > I generally experience IDE hang when exiting in all versions of LC 9.x i have > used so far (using a Mac however). I haven’t had time to delve into figuring > out a recipe I could report as a bug. I just force quit and relaunched > LiveCode. That is just part of my work flow now. Sometimes it does quit > with no hang. Some things I have tried is closing the script editor, or > close and remove from memory before quitting. I still don’t get consistent > results from this though. > > It happens with various stacks I work on from simple to complex. I thought > it may be an extension I have installed that ties up the IDE during the > quitting process. I plan one day to remove all extensions to a bare minimum > and see if it still happens. > > Interesting idea about the breakpoint. Is it a ‘red dot’ soft breakpoint or > hard coded ‘breakpoint’ in a line of the script? > > The behaviour of the soft breakpoints I have found inconsistent. Sometimes > they don’t trigger unless I have the script open for at least the first > breakpoint I want to trigger. Again I have never really tried to get to the > cause, just did workarounds. > > I probably have way to many breakpoints left sitting around. Maybe I should > just delete all breakpoints and start fresh. > > Thanks for the idea. Maybe that will solve the other problem I am having > with the DataGrid. > > Martin > >> On Oct 22, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Martin, >> >> I don’t have an answer for that but this post perked my interest in a hang I >> was getting. I just found out why the IDE hangs in an apparently tight loop >> when it's closing. This happened only on one card of the stack. It had a >> closeCard handler in the behavior. A "breakpoint" statement triggered. It >> was from early debugging and does not get triggered anymore. It only >> triggers if all is not well. There is reference to a property in the main >> stack. Could that stack already be closed and the property returns as empty? >> Because that would trigger the breakpoint. >> >> Is this a bug or user error? >> >> Win 10 >> LC 9.6.1 >> >> Thanks for pushing me(more like a poke) to finally solve this annoyance. >> >> Ralph DiMola >> IT Director >> Evergreen Information Services >> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >> >> -Original Message- >> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf >> Of Martin Koob via use-livecode >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:19 PM >> To: use-livecode list >> Cc: Martin Koob >> Subject: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10 >> >> Hi all >> >> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the >> group that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the >> DataGrid. So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the >> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ >> menu item. >> >> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode >> 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the >> script editor opens but it does not load the script. In fact LiveCode >> becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor >> when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows is the >> hour glass cursor. >> >> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that >> says. >> >> LiveCode for Windows is not responding >> If you close the program, you might lose information. >> —>Close the Program >> —>Wait for the program to respond. >> >> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never >> responds. >> >> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened >> the group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen >> it so it does work in a simple scenario. >> >> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script. >> On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines. So it seems the longer >> code is a contributing factor. >> >> Has anyone else experienced
RE: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)
It was a hardcoded breakpoint in this form. If x<0 then breakpoint I wonder if inadvertently triggered "red dot" breakpoints when exiting can cause the same hang? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Martin Koob via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:53 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Martin Koob Subject: Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10) Hi Ralph I generally experience IDE hang when exiting in all versions of LC 9.x i have used so far (using a Mac however). I haven’t had time to delve into figuring out a recipe I could report as a bug. I just force quit and relaunched LiveCode. That is just part of my work flow now. Sometimes it does quit with no hang. Some things I have tried is closing the script editor, or close and remove from memory before quitting. I still don’t get consistent results from this though. It happens with various stacks I work on from simple to complex. I thought it may be an extension I have installed that ties up the IDE during the quitting process. I plan one day to remove all extensions to a bare minimum and see if it still happens. Interesting idea about the breakpoint. Is it a ‘red dot’ soft breakpoint or hard coded ‘breakpoint’ in a line of the script? The behaviour of the soft breakpoints I have found inconsistent. Sometimes they don’t trigger unless I have the script open for at least the first breakpoint I want to trigger. Again I have never really tried to get to the cause, just did workarounds. I probably have way to many breakpoints left sitting around. Maybe I should just delete all breakpoints and start fresh. Thanks for the idea. Maybe that will solve the other problem I am having with the DataGrid. Martin > On Oct 22, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > Martin, > > I don’t have an answer for that but this post perked my interest in a hang I > was getting. I just found out why the IDE hangs in an apparently tight loop > when it's closing. This happened only on one card of the stack. It had a > closeCard handler in the behavior. A "breakpoint" statement triggered. It was > from early debugging and does not get triggered anymore. It only triggers if > all is not well. There is reference to a property in the main stack. Could > that stack already be closed and the property returns as empty? Because that > would trigger the breakpoint. > > Is this a bug or user error? > > Win 10 > LC 9.6.1 > > Thanks for pushing me(more like a poke) to finally solve this annoyance. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Martin Koob via use-livecode > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:19 PM > To: use-livecode list > Cc: Martin Koob > Subject: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10 > > Hi all > > Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group > that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the > DataGrid. So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the > Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ > menu item. > > This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode > 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the > script editor opens but it does not load the script. In fact LiveCode > becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor > when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows is the > hour glass cursor. > > If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that > says. > >LiveCode for Windows is not responding >If you close the program, you might lose information. >—>Close the Program >—>Wait for the program to respond. > > Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds. > > I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the > group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so > it does work in a simple scenario. > > In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script. > On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines. So it seems the longer code > is a contributing factor. > > Has anyone else experienced this? > > It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ > Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour? > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Martin Koob > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to
Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)
Hi Ralph I generally experience IDE hang when exiting in all versions of LC 9.x i have used so far (using a Mac however). I haven’t had time to delve into figuring out a recipe I could report as a bug. I just force quit and relaunched LiveCode. That is just part of my work flow now. Sometimes it does quit with no hang. Some things I have tried is closing the script editor, or close and remove from memory before quitting. I still don’t get consistent results from this though. It happens with various stacks I work on from simple to complex. I thought it may be an extension I have installed that ties up the IDE during the quitting process. I plan one day to remove all extensions to a bare minimum and see if it still happens. Interesting idea about the breakpoint. Is it a ‘red dot’ soft breakpoint or hard coded ‘breakpoint’ in a line of the script? The behaviour of the soft breakpoints I have found inconsistent. Sometimes they don’t trigger unless I have the script open for at least the first breakpoint I want to trigger. Again I have never really tried to get to the cause, just did workarounds. I probably have way to many breakpoints left sitting around. Maybe I should just delete all breakpoints and start fresh. Thanks for the idea. Maybe that will solve the other problem I am having with the DataGrid. Martin > On Oct 22, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > Martin, > > I don’t have an answer for that but this post perked my interest in a hang I > was getting. I just found out why the IDE hangs in an apparently tight loop > when it's closing. This happened only on one card of the stack. It had a > closeCard handler in the behavior. A "breakpoint" statement triggered. It was > from early debugging and does not get triggered anymore. It only triggers if > all is not well. There is reference to a property in the main stack. Could > that stack already be closed and the property returns as empty? Because that > would trigger the breakpoint. > > Is this a bug or user error? > > Win 10 > LC 9.6.1 > > Thanks for pushing me(more like a poke) to finally solve this annoyance. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Martin Koob via use-livecode > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:19 PM > To: use-livecode list > Cc: Martin Koob > Subject: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10 > > Hi all > > Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group > that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the > DataGrid. So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the > Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ > menu item. > > This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode > 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the > script editor opens but it does not load the script. In fact LiveCode > becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor > when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows is the > hour glass cursor. > > If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that > says. > >LiveCode for Windows is not responding >If you close the program, you might lose information. >—>Close the Program >—>Wait for the program to respond. > > Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds. > > I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the > group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so > it does work in a simple scenario. > > In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script. > On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines. So it seems the longer code > is a contributing factor. > > Has anyone else experienced this? > > It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ > Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour? > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Martin Koob > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
