> ... it is always a good idea when developing for public consumption to
> develop for the (reasonably) lowest common denominator.
This works with the public. Not so much with a massive set of corporate
enterprises where IT departments (all of them) will choose to test and roll out
Just to diverge a bit (as I am wont to do), when new browsers and features
began to be prolific, a lot of web devs would initially develop sites using the
new features. What resulted however is that they excluded vast numbers of
visitors who could not view their web sites, or had reduced
Hi Panos
Thank you for your lengthy descriptive explanation. It’s appreciated.
Perhaps this should be written in the Release Notes - you know, for
clarification. So that a newbie or even an oldie knows what to expect. If the
RN says it’s not supported then they/we will be ‘scared off from
Hello all,
Just a clarification, as this has been a source of confusion for a long
time.
The current LC 9.x versions do support MacOS Catalina. Also, with the
latest LiveCode versions (9.5.1 and 9.6 DP-2 - and possibly earlier
versions too) you can still deploy apps for iOS 13.x - and these apps
Sean Cole wrote:
> I've added updates to this bug relating to the script editor issues
> and crashes
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22389
Thank you, Sean. I'm signed onto the report, and will add any notes I
can if I see this on my Mac.
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Richard Gaskin
Fourth World
On 3/12/20 9:12 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
I was able to reproduce the issue (continually) so I did another screen
recording. It's either the auto-type suggestion thing or it's the error
bullet it puts on the numbers (which would then tie up with the breakpoint
and other SE
I was able to reproduce the issue (continually) so I did another screen
recording. It's either the auto-type suggestion thing or it's the error
bullet it puts on the numbers (which would then tie up with the breakpoint
and other SE errors). Interesting!
Sean
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 03:47, Sean
I've added updates to this bug relating to the script editor issues and
crashes
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22389
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I see now. I confess that I stopped reading the subject itself after a
while when the thread took off on a tangent. You make a valid point. LC
actually did what you describe when 64-bit started to be required on OS X.
They released a rapid update and made the deadline but it was close. I
heard
The clue is in the subject heading, Jacque. At least, I thought it was plain
enough. The script editor and HTML issues I mentioned were just ‘mind wind’ in
the process of bemoaning the speed of uptake to current OS and Xcode support.
Here’s the big issue. Essential updates that all users are
This one was okay. :) You sound a little more relaxed.
I frequently have the same frustrations as you do, but knowing a little
about the team helps moderate my posts. I think this long thread could have
been shorter if you had just said what roadblocks in particular are
preventing you from
Pi Digital wrote:
> I had posted this originally to the dev-livecode list but I thought
> (accurately) I wouldn’t get a reponse from that.
Yep, the dev list has been more or less retired since LC went open
source. I'm not sure why it's still even up, except that a few people
wanted it when
No offence taken at all, Matthias. I felt you hit ‘the nail’ on the head, not
me. ;)
I do regret bringing up my last ‘incident’ at all. It’s a bit of a splinter
that just won’t go away for me and hard not to be reminded of far to often when
I face the near same issues of failure I did back
Hi all
Thank you for all your kind words. Sorry, you said ‘no’ sarcasm. Oops. My bad.
I had posted this originally to the dev-livecode list but I thought
(accurately) I wouldn’t get a reponse from that. I’m sooo sorry (oops, I did it
again) that this is viewed potentially by newbies. Although
Not just dropped APIs.
It starts already with Apple deciding if the functionality of an iOS App is
worth to be approved for the Appstore or not.
I had created 3 apps for a customer which were not accepted by Apple by the
"lack" of functionality. At least that was the reason they told us,
> Am 13.03.2020 um 00:09 schrieb hh via use-livecode
> :
>
>> Matthias wrote:
>> I did NOT refer to any personal problems. So please do not impute
>> such an intention to me.
>
> Sorry Matthias, I obviously misinterpreted "your problems last year".
> Hopefully Sean Cole didn't also
I hesitate to opine, but there's so much here. I think anytime a product is
dependent on a Google API, long term support is uncertain. For example,
recently Google dropped support for Google Docs. The copier companies have
written plugins to their copiers SPECIFICALLY to work with Google Docs.
> Matthias wrote:
> I did NOT refer to any personal problems. So please do not impute
> such an intention to me.
Sorry Matthias, I obviously misinterpreted "your problems last year".
Hopefully Sean Cole didn't also misinterpret this.
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> Am 12.03.2020 um 23:15 schrieb hh via use-livecode
> :
>
>
> What I woud like to see is that Sean Cole(pi digital) can write here his
> opinion without being attacked just for writing that: No content-based
> attack, but using the most nasty kind of attack, using (supposed) personal
>
> Richard G. wrote at Mike K.:
> The rest of us are having conversations with none other than the lead
> engineer, right here on this list this morning.
Yes the CTO was in the last two weeks probably more often here than in the
last two years before that two weeks. But he's now more often
it really has been, by multiple people, over multiple years. i'm not going
to repeat myself, or them.
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Mike Kerner wrote:
> there is a difference between complaining and flameing
> badgering over the status of qr's shouldn't be necessary. badgering
> over comms shouldn't be necessary.
Agreed, but there have been two posts with abstractions about
"communications" and neither has expressed what
i'm kind-of annoyed. i have spent enough of my company's funds and my
personal time doing lc sessions for beginners. the two years before the lc
global sessions, we had a similar level of communication from hq as we do
now.
there is a difference between complaining and flameing
badgering over
Well said, Jacqueline!
Bill
William A. Prothero
Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
http://earthlearningsolutions.org/
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 11:58 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> On 3/12/20 12:39 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:
>> The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have
On 3/12/20 12:39 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:
The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have the freedom of speech
everybody can say whether he is contented with LC or not. And nothing written
does
change anything*with LC*, also not your positive-only (and excellent) posts ...
As to my contentedness with LC, let me say that without LC, my options would be
Javascript, Python or a host of other script based languages, or else some
variant of C. That is to say I would be out of options because I simply am too
lazy and otherwise occupied with my real job to justify the
LC = Less Cheese ;-)
Rick
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> It went on for so many days Heather eventually stepped in and kindly asked us
> to please stop the cheese conversation so those interested in LiveCode could
> have more LC and less cheese
hh wrote:
>> Bob S. wrote:
>> I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I
>> begin to speak of fermented dairy products, I will certainly be
>> censured!
>> And well I should be!!!
>
> I wonder why you want to speak of fermented dairy products in order to
> express
Bob Sneidar wrote:
> I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I
> begin to speak of fermented dairy products, I will certainly be
> censured! And well I should be!!!
>
> Also, and seriously, Freedom of Speech is something that is unique to
> a handful of cultures. It
> > hh wrote:
> > The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have the freedom of
> > speech everybody can say whether he is contented with LC or not.
>
> Bob S. wrote:
> I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I begin
> to speak of fermented dairy products, I
I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I begin to
speak of fermented dairy products, I will certainly be censured! And well I
should be!!!
Also, and seriously, Freedom of Speech is something that is unique to a handful
of cultures. It is by no means global.
Bob
+10
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 09:41 , matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Posting here about a real problem/bug makes sense, because others might jump
> in and confirm the same experience or might help to solve the problem
> As always, a good recipe, if possible, makes it even easier to
> > hh wrote:
> > Some people are very angry about deficiencies of LC, what I can understand
> > from
> > their view, and *we should hear what they have to say*.
>
> Matthias wrote:
> Why. Posting here won´t change anything.
The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have the freedom
> Am 12.03.2020 um 17:08 schrieb hh via use-livecode
> :
>
> Some people are very angry about deficiencies of LC, what I can understand
> from
> their view, and *we should hear what they have to say*.
>
Why. Posting here won´t change anything.
> Especially when they get angry about the
Some people are very angry about deficiencies of LC, what I can understand from
their view, and *we should hear what they have to say*.
Especially when they get angry about the whitewashing of bugs by some list
members.
What's wrong that's wrong, no matter who tries to whitewash bugs or even
> Am 12.03.2020 um 01:08 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
> :
>
> Tired and ill. My business is constantly lagging behind my competitors
> because we're always on the backfoot waiting for LC to frikin' work! I'm
> going to end up losing all my new customers again since the last LC epic
>
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