Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-19 Thread Dan Brown via use-livecode 
Hi Tom,

Word of caution on using Fiber, it only uses a subset of the http/1.1
standard (i.e. it's not standards compliant) and doesn't support http2

Have used the below libs in production and can recommend their usage if the
above is an issue

Echo - https://echo.labstack.com/guide
Chi - https://github.com/go-chi/chi

Regards

Dan

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:58 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Yes!! that is an important distinction.  It explains some of the results of
> my testsEven though I can send them out asynchronously, they can only
> come back in sequence.
>
> Basically I have a core binary component that must be fast and efficient in
> serving and digesting api requests...I couldn't use LC for that.  I am
> using Go with the fiber library to be the core service and push all results
> to livecode front-end.
> So I am testing the throughput abilities of Livecode (both community and
> indy) to this local service.
> I anticipate crazy speeds with Fiber when I test this with TSNet.
>
> I will share my results, when I have completed all my tests.
>
> Thanks Again
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:50 AM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > On 8/19/20 8:08 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> > > I get a 404 error on the download.
> >
> > Change the directory to "tsnet" instead of "tsNet"
> >
> > <
> >
> https://downloads.techstrategies.com.au/tsnet/tsNet_libUrl_loadUrl.livecode
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > Bob S
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 18, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> https://downloads.techstrategies.com.au/tsNet/tsNet_libUrl_loadUrl.livecode
> >
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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-19 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode 
Yes!! that is an important distinction.  It explains some of the results of
my testsEven though I can send them out asynchronously, they can only
come back in sequence.

Basically I have a core binary component that must be fast and efficient in
serving and digesting api requests...I couldn't use LC for that.  I am
using Go with the fiber library to be the core service and push all results
to livecode front-end.
So I am testing the throughput abilities of Livecode (both community and
indy) to this local service.
I anticipate crazy speeds with Fiber when I test this with TSNet.

I will share my results, when I have completed all my tests.

Thanks Again

Tom





On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:50 AM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
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> On 8/19/20 8:08 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> > I get a 404 error on the download.
>
> Change the directory to "tsnet" instead of "tsNet"
>
> <
> https://downloads.techstrategies.com.au/tsnet/tsNet_libUrl_loadUrl.livecode
> >
>
> >
> > Bob S
> >
> >
> > On Aug 18, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> https://downloads.techstrategies.com.au/tsNet/tsNet_libUrl_loadUrl.livecode
>
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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode 

On 8/19/20 8:08 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I get a 404 error on the download.


Change the directory to "tsnet" instead of "tsNet"





Bob S


On Aug 18, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:



https://downloads.techstrategies.com.au/tsNet/tsNet_libUrl_loadUrl.livecode



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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-19 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
I get a 404 error on the download.

Bob S


On Aug 18, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hi Tom,

Using unique URLs for multiple load URL requests against the same server with 
the standard libUrl library allows you to *initiate* multiple requests at once, 
but the requests will still only be sent to the server one at a time in the 
background.

tsNet will send the requests to the server in parallel, which can significantly 
decrease the time taken to perform the requests (assuming the server can cope 
with the load).

If you want to see what I mean, download the following stack:

https://downloads.techstrategies.com.au/tsNet/tsNet_libUrl_loadUrl.livecode

Open this up in LC Indy edition, and click the “Get Foreign Exchange Rates” 
button several times to get an average total time.

Then disable tsNet by running the following command in a message box:

dispatch “revunloadlibrary” to stack “tsnetliburl”

Then click the button several more times and compare the time difference.

Regards,

Charles

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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-18 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
Hi Tom,

Using unique URLs for multiple load URL requests against the same server with 
the standard libUrl library allows you to *initiate* multiple requests at once, 
but the requests will still only be sent to the server one at a time in the 
background.

tsNet will send the requests to the server in parallel, which can significantly 
decrease the time taken to perform the requests (assuming the server can cope 
with the load).

If you want to see what I mean, download the following stack:

https://downloads.techstrategies.com.au/tsNet/tsNet_libUrl_loadUrl.livecode

Open this up in LC Indy edition, and click the “Get Foreign Exchange Rates” 
button several times to get an average total time.

Then disable tsNet by running the following command in a message box:

dispatch “revunloadlibrary” to stack “tsnetliburl”

Then click the button several more times and compare the time difference.

Regards,

Charles


> On 19 Aug 2020, at 2:39 am, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> Thanks for that tip, I suspect that will work to improve those failures on
> TSNET
> 
> My rest API is local ...written in Golang using the Fiber Library..
> which is very impressive performance wise, and super easy to implement.
> 
> An interesting side note... .liburl has this 'one at a time' limitation but
> its possible to get around it by having a unique enough URL. which my use
> case gives me automatically.
> 
> So as a result I can actually launch a lot of requests asynchronously.
> 
> I need to really test these components well.   so i will be posting
> some results. I just got it to work reliably yesterday.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:02 PM Charles Warwick via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> If you want to stress test an API using the tsNet library, try adding a:
>> 
>> tsNetLibUrlReuseConnection false
>> 
>> Before issuing the loadUrl commands to see if that makes any difference.
>> 
>> Also note that with tsNet, multiple load URL commands can occur at the
>> same time against a single server, where as without tsNet, I think that
>> libUrl will wait for one to complete before sending the next one.
>> 
>> So it is also possible that you are hitting the remote server harder when
>> you are using tsNet than with the standard libUrl.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>>> On 18 Aug 2020, at 8:23 am, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you sir. That worked.
>>> 
>>> I will try to diagnose the difference between the 2 libraries in this
>>> scenario.. if only to understand why its happening and not get burned
>>> elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Tom,
 
 Your problem with tsNet could be a timeouts. See tsNetSetTimeouts
 
 Disable tsNet:
 dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
 
 Enable tsNet:
 dispatch "revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
 
 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Behalf
 Of Tom Glod via use-livecode
 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:32 PM
 To: How to use LiveCode
 Cc: Tom Glod
 Subject: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 I am  stress testing a rest api using liburl, I will also do TSNET
 
 But when I open my stack in Livecode Indy, the load URL command uses
>> TSNET
 
 Whats funny is that half the requests are failing when it tries to use
 TSNET. With liburl, 100% success rate using LC Community.
 
 I am also calling a custom liburlcallback handler.
 
 Is there any way to prevent indy from using TSNET by default?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-18 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode 
Hi Charles,

Thanks for that tip, I suspect that will work to improve those failures on
TSNET

My rest API is local ...written in Golang using the Fiber Library..
which is very impressive performance wise, and super easy to implement.

An interesting side note... .liburl has this 'one at a time' limitation but
its possible to get around it by having a unique enough URL. which my use
case gives me automatically.

So as a result I can actually launch a lot of requests asynchronously.

I need to really test these components well.   so i will be posting
some results. I just got it to work reliably yesterday.

Thanks again,

Tom



On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:02 PM Charles Warwick via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> If you want to stress test an API using the tsNet library, try adding a:
>
> tsNetLibUrlReuseConnection false
>
> Before issuing the loadUrl commands to see if that makes any difference.
>
> Also note that with tsNet, multiple load URL commands can occur at the
> same time against a single server, where as without tsNet, I think that
> libUrl will wait for one to complete before sending the next one.
>
> So it is also possible that you are hitting the remote server harder when
> you are using tsNet than with the standard libUrl.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles
>
> > On 18 Aug 2020, at 8:23 am, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you sir. That worked.
> >
> > I will try to diagnose the difference between the 2 libraries in this
> > scenario.. if only to understand why its happening and not get burned
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Tom,
> >>
> >> Your problem with tsNet could be a timeouts. See tsNetSetTimeouts
> >>
> >> Disable tsNet:
> >> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
> >>
> >> Enable tsNet:
> >> dispatch "revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
> >>
> >> Ralph DiMola
> >> IT Director
> >> Evergreen Information Services
> >> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Tom Glod via use-livecode
> >> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:32 PM
> >> To: How to use LiveCode
> >> Cc: Tom Glod
> >> Subject: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy
> >>
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> I am  stress testing a rest api using liburl, I will also do TSNET
> >>
> >> But when I open my stack in Livecode Indy, the load URL command uses
> TSNET
> >>
> >> Whats funny is that half the requests are failing when it tries to use
> >> TSNET. With liburl, 100% success rate using LC Community.
> >>
> >> I am also calling a custom liburlcallback handler.
> >>
> >> Is there any way to prevent indy from using TSNET by default?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Tom
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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-17 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
Hi Tom,

If you want to stress test an API using the tsNet library, try adding a:

tsNetLibUrlReuseConnection false

Before issuing the loadUrl commands to see if that makes any difference.

Also note that with tsNet, multiple load URL commands can occur at the same 
time against a single server, where as without tsNet, I think that  libUrl will 
wait for one to complete before sending the next one.

So it is also possible that you are hitting the remote server harder when you 
are using tsNet than with the standard libUrl.

Regards,

Charles

> On 18 Aug 2020, at 8:23 am, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you sir. That worked.
> 
> I will try to diagnose the difference between the 2 libraries in this
> scenario.. if only to understand why its happening and not get burned
> elsewhere.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Your problem with tsNet could be a timeouts. See tsNetSetTimeouts
>> 
>> Disable tsNet:
>> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>> 
>> Enable tsNet:
>> dispatch "revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Tom Glod via use-livecode
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:32 PM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Tom Glod
>> Subject: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I am  stress testing a rest api using liburl, I will also do TSNET
>> 
>> But when I open my stack in Livecode Indy, the load URL command uses TSNET
>> 
>> Whats funny is that half the requests are failing when it tries to use
>> TSNET. With liburl, 100% success rate using LC Community.
>> 
>> I am also calling a custom liburlcallback handler.
>> 
>> Is there any way to prevent indy from using TSNET by default?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Tom
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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-17 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
Hey hey! I’m back on the list again. Turns out my account DID get deleted 
somehow. 

Bob S


> On Aug 17, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you sir. That worked.
> 
> I will try to diagnose the difference between the 2 libraries in this
> scenario.. if only to understand why its happening and not get burned
> elsewhere.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Your problem with tsNet could be a timeouts. See tsNetSetTimeouts
>> 
>> Disable tsNet:
>> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>> 
>> Enable tsNet:
>> dispatch "revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Tom Glod via use-livecode
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:32 PM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Tom Glod
>> Subject: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I am  stress testing a rest api using liburl, I will also do TSNET
>> 
>> But when I open my stack in Livecode Indy, the load URL command uses TSNET
>> 
>> Whats funny is that half the requests are failing when it tries to use
>> TSNET. With liburl, 100% success rate using LC Community.
>> 
>> I am also calling a custom liburlcallback handler.
>> 
>> Is there any way to prevent indy from using TSNET by default?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Tom
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Re: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-17 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode 
Thank you sir. That worked.

I will try to diagnose the difference between the 2 libraries in this
scenario.. if only to understand why its happening and not get burned
elsewhere.

Thanks.

Tom



On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:41 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Your problem with tsNet could be a timeouts. See tsNetSetTimeouts
>
> Disable tsNet:
> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>
> Enable tsNet:
> dispatch "revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Tom Glod via use-livecode
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:32 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Tom Glod
> Subject: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am  stress testing a rest api using liburl, I will also do TSNET
>
> But when I open my stack in Livecode Indy, the load URL command uses TSNET
>
> Whats funny is that half the requests are failing when it tries to use
> TSNET. With liburl, 100% success rate using LC Community.
>
> I am also calling a custom liburlcallback handler.
>
> Is there any way to prevent indy from using TSNET by default?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom
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RE: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

2020-08-17 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
Tom,

Your problem with tsNet could be a timeouts. See tsNetSetTimeouts

Disable tsNet: 
dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl

Enable tsNet: 
dispatch "revloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl

Ralph DiMola
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 4:32 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Tom Glod
Subject: LibURL and TSNet in LC Indy

Hi Folks,

I am  stress testing a rest api using liburl, I will also do TSNET

But when I open my stack in Livecode Indy, the load URL command uses TSNET

Whats funny is that half the requests are failing when it tries to use
TSNET. With liburl, 100% success rate using LC Community.

I am also calling a custom liburlcallback handler.

Is there any way to prevent indy from using TSNET by default?

Thanks

Tom
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