Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> Jacque wrote: > > But while I agree completely with your definition, it got me concerned that > if I were to marry a very tall, large man, I would be a bigamist. A 24 carat post! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 9/9/21 8:53 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: The former. Yay. Thanks. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

RE: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
code [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 11:47 AM To: Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Cc: Mark Wieder Subject: Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features? On 9/8/21 10:40 PM, Mark Waddingham via

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-09-09 16:47, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 9/8/21 10:40 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:   put [1, 2, 3] into tVar2 is equivalent to:   put 1 into tVar2[1]   put 2 into tVar2[2]   put 3 into tVar2[3] That's still ambiguous, though. Is put [4, 5, 6] into

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 9/8/21 10:40 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:   put [1, 2, 3] into tVar2 is equivalent to:   put 1 into tVar2[1]   put 2 into tVar2[2]   put 3 into tVar2[3] That's still ambiguous, though. Is put [4, 5, 6] into tVar2 equivalent to put 4 into tVar2[1] put 5 into

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Any thread in which two LC team members participate cannot possibly be considered off-topic and subsequently banned. But while I agree completely with your definition, it got me concerned that if I were to marry a very tall, large man, I would be a bigamist. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi Heather The mention of carrots was mine. I agree with your logic “couple" is a fuzzy number which I am fine with (though when it comes to carrots themselves fuzzy is not good.) Yesterday the carrots were very small and striving to be a sensible husband I chopped 5 up. I of course I

RE: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
ecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andre Garzia via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 6:27 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Andre Garzia Subject: Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features? I’ll just add that a couple of pints never means exactly two pints….

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Ok, I cannot help myself. Somewhere in this thread was mentioned "a couple of carrots" and this was defined as two. It is in fact not two. It is the equivalent amount of carrots to about 2, if the carrots are well sized but not enormous. If you have small carrots, please chop 3. If they are

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-09 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
I’ll just add that a couple of pints never means exactly two pints…. Language is a very fluid thing. Sent from my iPhone > On 8 Sep 2021, at 23:14, matthias rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > Btw. this is how Merriam-Webster thinks about couple, few and several. > >

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-09-09 00:37, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: On 2021-09-08 01:33, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: But put [1, 2, 3 ] into tVar2 isn't clear to me. If it was in Python it would be a list - but LC doesn't have 'lists'. Is it equivalent to    put true into tVar2[1]    put

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> Matthias wrote: > > 'ein paar' means two or three or somewhere in the range. Ich kann Deutsch. Aber nur ein paar Wörter. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 9/8/21 4:37 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: I think that    put [4, 5, 7] into tV is actually equivalent to    put 4 into tV[1]    put 5 into tV[2]    put 7 into tV[3] But I'm happy to wait and try it out in the DP. I would certainly be happier if that turns out to be the

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 2021-09-08 01:33, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: But put [1, 2, 3 ] into tVar2 isn't clear to me. If it was in Python it would be a list - but LC doesn't have 'lists'. Is it equivalent to    put true into tVar2[1]    put true into tVar2[2]    put true into tVar2[3]    ?? and

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 9/8/21 3:03 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: This actually touches on the arbitrary nature of language. A word only means something because all the parties who want to use that word, agree (whether or not they think they do) that this word will mean this thing. If over time, a

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 08/09/2021 22:43, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: However, if applied to something which is continuous (and perhaps more importantly something humans are not that great at accurately estimating - eg time) it rarely means two exactly... After all when was the last time you said to

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
This reminds me of the counting instructions for the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. https://montypython.fandom.com/wiki/Holy_Hand_Grenade_of_Antioch 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Btw. this is how Merriam-Webster thinks about couple, few and several. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/couple-few-several-use > Am 09.09.2021 um 00:08 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode > : > > More

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
More than three. > Am 09.09.2021 um 00:04 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > Then what does a few mean? > > Bob S > > >> On Sep 8, 2021, at 14:49 , matthias rebbe via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> How lucky we Germans are with having to write some words in capitals. ;) >>

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Then what does a few mean? Bob S > On Sep 8, 2021, at 14:49 , matthias rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > How lucky we Germans are with having to write some words in capitals. ;) > > 'ein Paar' (a couple) means 2 > 'ein Paar Schuhe' means a pair of shoes > > 'ein paar' means two or

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Okay I told you don't make me come over there and separate you two! ;-) This actually touches on the arbitrary nature of language. A word only means something because all the parties who want to use that word, agree (whether or not they think they do) that this word will mean this thing. If

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
How lucky we Germans are with having to write some words in capitals. ;) 'ein Paar' (a couple) means 2 'ein Paar Schuhe' means a pair of shoes 'ein paar' means two or three or somewhere in the range. 'ein paar Schuhe' means 2 or 3 or somewhere in the range shoes In the English lessons in

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Heh - I think you are both right in different contexts... For sure, when used as a noun in isolation (a couple) it refers to two - specifically either a pair of parallel but opposing forces (physics) or a pair of (usually romantically) involved individuals (some might wryly suggest that these

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 9/8/21 3:20 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Ah, the problem with calling things “facts” where the data isn’t actually knowable. The number of hairs on my head is a fact but not one that can be accurately known. Kind of like the number of people who watched the Super Bowl. In

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 9/8/21 3:39 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 9/8/21 1:20 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Ah, the problem with calling things “facts” where the data isn’t actually knowable.  The number of hairs on my head is a fact but not one that can be accurately known.  Kind of like

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The number of hairs on your head at a given point in space and time are a fact, and can be theoretically known. I always say that once we know everything about a subject, there can be no ambiguity, no "alternate point of view". A fact, or "the truth" about a thing is singular. Whether or not we

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi Jacqueline That’s funny, I was assuming that it was a male / female language usage issue. It would be odd if coders saw ‘couple’ not being an arbitrary number but one with some flexibility and not coders not. (Although if your husband is also a coder that would blow that theory out of the

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 9/8/21 1:20 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Ah, the problem with calling things “facts” where the data isn’t actually knowable. The number of hairs on my head is a fact but not one that can be accurately known. Kind of like the number of people who watched the Super Bowl. In

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Ah, the problem with calling things “facts” where the data isn’t actually knowable. The number of hairs on my head is a fact but not one that can be accurately known. Kind of like the number of people who watched the Super Bowl. In that context, true fact makes sense (also “cold hard fact”).

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
My husband said the same when I told him about this thread. "Couple" means two. I said yes, but colloquially it can mean "two or three or somewhere in that range." We almost started a longer discussion about it, but I reminded him of our 30+ years of ongoing talk about a "fact" so we both

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-09-08 16:48, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: It requires an explicit '...': Ahah! Not being a javascripter, I completely missed that, and thought you were just omitting some text for clarity! [Sidenote: what idiot decided to use ellipsis as an operator?? And not even the

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
On 08/09/2021 14:20, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I also wonder whether this might be the moment to introduce another bit of (completely non-breaking) syntactic sugar: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8945 Hehe - with integers being unbounded, there are plenty more

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
> It requires an explicit '...': Ahah! Not being a javascripter, I completely missed that, and thought you were just omitting some text for clarity! [Sidenote: what idiot decided to use ellipsis as an operator?? And not even the ellipsis character, but three dots???]. > Interesting your

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-09-08 13:09, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode wrote: I'm also excited by the items in this list, at least the ones that I understand. I am a bit disturbed by the Tail Expressions one, because to the extent that I do understand it, I don't see how this doesn't break existing code that

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-09-08 11:35, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: I just don't understand this one, so no comment. As I understand, this is LC version of the “spread operator”. It allows you to spread the elements of an array as the arguments to a handler. The code: put “an...@example.com

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
I'm also excited by the items in this list, at least the ones that I understand. I still haven't fully understood the one Alex raises below, but I'm content that it won't bother me until I do. I am a bit disturbed by the Tail Expressions one, because to the extent that I do understand it, I

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
> On Sep 7, 2021, at 11:04 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode > wrote: > > My wife and I have an ongoing disagreement about the term 'couple of’ in > terms of counting. I say it means around 2 or 3ish. She says it means 2. > Further she says if you wanted to say 3 or 4 you would say ‘a few’.

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hi Alex, > On 8 Sep 2021, at 01:33, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode > wrote: > > I just don't understand this one, so no comment. As I understand, this is LC version of the “spread operator”. It allows you to spread the elements of an array as the arguments to a handler. The code: put

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-09-08 01:33, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: But put [1, 2, 3 ] into tVar2 isn't clear to me. If it was in Python it would be a list - but LC doesn't have 'lists'. Is it equivalent to    put true into tVar2[1]    put true into tVar2[2]    put true into tVar2[3]    ?? Yes. A

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-08 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
It does look exciting, but, as usual, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and I am sure, initially at least, there will be a few bits of nutshell left in there for us to jag our teeth on: but that's to be expected, and our job is to report back any nutty bits to LiveCode centre. My

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-07 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 07/09/2021 23:01, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote: Hi all. There has been lots of discussion on the list and forums about the one part of Kevin’s announcement regarding the changes in licensing but nothing that I see on the other major part of the announcement — the new features coming

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-07 Thread kee nethery via use-livecode
Still looking for a way to do in-app payments for macOS App Store apps. Thanks for the list of all the new stuff. Kee > On Sep 7, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode > wrote: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-07 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Hi Martin I'm interested in the web assembly for HTML5. I had actually written two different apps which I would have done as HTML5 but the loading time alone was just to slow. The increased loading speed alone should now make these possible as HTML5. There are still a lot of other things that

Re: LiveCode 10 - what are your thoughts on the new features?

2021-09-07 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Brand New Web Deployment Experience usingWeb Assembly (WASM) > - I have no idea what WASM is. There have always been complaints about > web deployment in the past. Do you think this will make a difference? > https://www.qt.io/qt-examples-for-webassembly