Re: OFF TOPIC virtualize windows on mac
I like Parallels, especially because it is capable of creating multiple network adapters and assigning a real adapter to it very easily. This would allow you to connect a server to two different networks for example. It's entirely possible to set up a virtual software router like that. I now have all my Windows Servers running in Parallels VM's on a couple of Intel Apple Servers. The main thing to keep in mind is system resources. Make sure you have plenty of memory and drive space. Creating fixed (not expanding) virtual drives is recommended as well. Also, if running Active Directory in a replication environment, disable the snapshots feature on both the replica and the master. Restoring a snapshot in this scenario will create a syncing issue called a USN rollback between the replica and the master which is not easy to resolve. Some say it is impossible, but I have recovered before. Bob On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:45 AM, jva...@1234web.net wrote: Hello, starting with an old Macbook would like to know your expert opinion about what is the best virtualization solution to run Windows on Mac, from a developer point of view. Thanks and Happy New Year -- Jose ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OFF TOPIC virtualize windows on mac
jvalle wrote: starting with an old Macbook would like to know your expert opinion about what is the best virtualization solution to run Windows on Mac, from a developer point of view. With any VM the key is RAM. The more the merrier. Anything less than 2GB will make VMs really difficult to work with. I'm surprised no one here has mentioned VirtualBox: https://www.virtualbox.org/ I'd used Parallels for years, even met the devs at a MacTech conference and have been very impressed. But then Mark Wieder suggested I try VirtualBox, and in my experience it loads VMs from a saved state so much faster than Parallels that I've switched all my VMs to it. Extra bonus points: it's free an open source, so you can try it out at no cost, and if it doesn't do what you need you'll lose nothing. But I'd be surprised if you weren't impressed with it. VirtualBox may not have all of the features of Parallels, but with the shared Clipboard, shared folders, and so many other useful options I've found it very satisfying. And the performance has been pretty much unmatched on the three machines I use it on (Mac Mini, MacBook Pro, and Dell laptop). Since this is an older Mac, if RAM is scarce you might consider picking up a used PC from Craig's List or Ebay. I've bought quite a few computers through each, and have saved a great deal of money. And if you've been curious about learning more on the hardware side of things, building your own PC can save you even more. Consider this DIY rig from NewEgg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.752616 A Sandy Bridge CPU in an expandable case for just $188. Add a hard drive and you're good to go with a fairly nice little system. Heck, that's pretty much the cost of Parallels, and you get an whole computer instead. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OFF TOPIC virtualize windows on mac
Richard, VirtualBox was mentioned at least 3 times. I like Parallels too, but I like VirtualBox just as much feature-wise and it beats Parallels because of the price. I agree that a PC might be a better solution, but it isn't always possible to fit a PC in your backpack :-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/1bq Start selling Color Converter today. 20% commission! On 3 jan 2012, at 18:59, Richard Gaskin wrote: jvalle wrote: starting with an old Macbook would like to know your expert opinion about what is the best virtualization solution to run Windows on Mac, from a developer point of view. With any VM the key is RAM. The more the merrier. Anything less than 2GB will make VMs really difficult to work with. I'm surprised no one here has mentioned VirtualBox: https://www.virtualbox.org/ I'd used Parallels for years, even met the devs at a MacTech conference and have been very impressed. But then Mark Wieder suggested I try VirtualBox, and in my experience it loads VMs from a saved state so much faster than Parallels that I've switched all my VMs to it. Extra bonus points: it's free an open source, so you can try it out at no cost, and if it doesn't do what you need you'll lose nothing. But I'd be surprised if you weren't impressed with it. VirtualBox may not have all of the features of Parallels, but with the shared Clipboard, shared folders, and so many other useful options I've found it very satisfying. And the performance has been pretty much unmatched on the three machines I use it on (Mac Mini, MacBook Pro, and Dell laptop). Since this is an older Mac, if RAM is scarce you might consider picking up a used PC from Craig's List or Ebay. I've bought quite a few computers through each, and have saved a great deal of money. And if you've been curious about learning more on the hardware side of things, building your own PC can save you even more. Consider this DIY rig from NewEgg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.752616 A Sandy Bridge CPU in an expandable case for just $188. Add a hard drive and you're good to go with a fairly nice little system. Heck, that's pretty much the cost of Parallels, and you get an whole computer instead. :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OFF TOPIC virtualize windows on mac
Aye. Where virtualization really begins to pay off for me is running multiple vm's on a single hardware platform, or else the convenience of having several operating systems at my fingertips at once. As an IT manager that has really been a huge boon for me. I should also mention that in a Windows dominated environment, it is a great way to introduce the MAC OS without others thinking you are trying to take over the world, which of course I really am, but no one needs to know that just yet. Otherwise I agree totally that for a single vm, why not just have a computer for that? Bob On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: And if you've been curious about learning more on the hardware side of things, building your own PC can save you even more. Consider this DIY rig from NewEgg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.752616 A Sandy Bridge CPU in an expandable case for just $188. Add a hard drive and you're good to go with a fairly nice little system. Heck, that's pretty much the cost of Parallels, and you get an whole computer instead. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OFF TOPIC virtualize windows on mac
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:45 AM, jva...@1234web.net wrote: Hello, starting with an old Macbook would like to know your expert opinion about what is the best virtualization solution to run Windows on Mac, from a developer point of view. Thanks and Happy New Year -- Jose If the Mac is PPC rather than intel, then I wouldn't recommend virtialization as it would be 'emulation', which is unproductively slow. You would be better off buying a low-end PC. However, if the Mac has an intel cpu, then start with the FREE Virtualbox, and see if it meets your needs. If not, VMware Fusion is very good, and also Parallels Desktop for Mac. If intel, and your OS is at least Leopard, SnowLeo, or Lion, you could install Windows using BootCamp (in Utililies). This would allow you to boot natively in Windows, and would be as close to the real thing as you can get while using Apple hardware. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/ http://www.parallels.com/download/ http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3986 ˜Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OFF TOPIC virtualize windows on mac
If not, VMware Fusion is very good, and also Parallels Desktop for Mac. Just FYI, I've read a ton of comparisons on these two, and own both, and over the last year or two, Parallels has always come out ahead of VMWare in the published reviews. I can back that up with personal experience, too. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if VMWare jumps ahead of Parallels this year and the two get into a leap frog contest, but either one is great for virtualization, IMHO. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OFF TOPIC virtualize windows on mac
Virtualbox works always as expected in about apps or web apps testing tasks. Le 2 janv. 2012 à 14:45, jva...@1234web.net a écrit : Hello, starting with an old Macbook would like to know your expert opinion about what is the best virtualization solution to run Windows on Mac, from a developer point of view. Thanks and Happy New Year -- Jose ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
