Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Actually, I really appreciate Adobe Illustrator's object properties dialog. Sometimes I LIKE being able to define an object's dimensions by typing in coordinates. CAD designers do this all the time. Of course, advanced features like snap to point make this mostly obsolete, but if you need a

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The software should allow you to select the handle of the foreground object if only one is selected, and if multiple objects are selected, the nearest neighbor to your click point. If anchors are so close as to conflict, you should be able to zoom in. I think this is a non-issue. Bob S > On

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Just a general agreement here, I also have some issues with the new design for selections. The circular handles look strange to me but it's an adjustment I can deal with. The dotted outline bothers me more because it is harder to see the edges of the object, though I suspect it was implemented

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
That's why I do 95% of my graphic design "elsewhere" (Gimp, Inkscape, and so on). Doing the "application dance" seems to take up an awful lot of time, and that along with the eternal import-export-import thing can get a wee bit tedious. If all the graphic stuff could be done on-board things

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Ditto what Dan, Richard, Craig said (letting off just a little steam here too) Ali: "provide examples" Adobe illustrator see: http://wiki.hindu.org/uploads/square-small-selection-handles.jpg Ali: "justification" -- I've been ranting for 2 decades about how LC IDE needs to be optimized for

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Ali Lloyd wrote: > The code hit-detects as if the handles were square, so the > hit-detection area is actually bigger than it used to be. And there's the difference between engineering and user experience: It may be bigger, but if it's visually ambiguous user's won't be able to know that. A

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
> So do you see any advantage to having handles outboard? Yes, it is impossible to resize an object's width or height to zero (or within (size of handle) of zero) when the handles are inside the object. Also, you could not previously make a line straight using the selection handles inside an

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
The code hit-detects as if the handles were square, so the hit-detection area is actually bigger than it used to be. On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 4:51 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Ali Lloyd wrote: > > > Instead of declaring that this is how it should

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread dunbarx via use-livecode
Ali. I was presumptuous. But having handles fully within their object makes them easy to grab without possibly selecting a near neighbor instead. I have this issue all the time, aligning and adjusting closely spaced controls. I often just select a control, nudge it a few times with an arrowKey

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Ali Lloyd wrote: > Instead of declaring that this is how it should be, it's much better > to provide examples and justification. I just checked, and every > application I have on this computer does selection handles with the > center of the handle on the boundary of the object. Centering the

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-28 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
code <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Cc: Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> > Sent: Mon, Mar 27, 2017 3:39 pm > Subject: Re: Object Selection Handles > > Dan Friedman wrote: > Is there a property to change the shape of the > selection handles when >

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-27 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
, and that looks and feels wrong. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> To: use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 27, 2017 3:39 pm Subject: Re: Object

Re: Object Selection Handles

2017-03-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dan Friedman wrote: > Is there a property to change the shape of the selection handles when > using the selection tool? In LC 9 (and 8), they are round circles > that protrude outside the edge of the control. In previous versions, > they were squares that remained within the rect of the