Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-21 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thanks for bringing that to my attention, Matthias. I've sent a note to Kevin suggesting clarification on that FAQ item. Most hosting companies make MySQL available under its GPL license, and the Free Software Foundation created the AGPL specifically for the use case described. I suspect

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-21 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> Am 21.11.2017 um 01:59 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > >: > > > True, the GPL does not consider access across a network to be "distribution" > per se. After all, the code never leaves the server. This is how

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Alex Tweedly wrote: > P.S. I'm not convinced by the original claim either. To me, "integral > part" cannot be implied by use of a web api. If it can, I look forward > to writing an app with the Community version that uses Google's maps > api - and the subsequent claim that Google's code is all

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Matthias said (quoting the LC FAQs): Another difference is you do not require your code be distributed under GPL. But with community version of LcServer you have to do so "in case your server code is an integral part of making your LC based software work". But that (as far as I can see) is

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Ralph & Matthias, I am well aware of the GPL limitations of the community version with respect to the license. I never use password protected stacks. I do see how that could be useful though. The encryption functionality is important too. The tsNet external is also nice for sending emails

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Rick, the commercial version of LcServer supports encryption, the use of password protected stacks and you can use the tsNet external with it, but you have to install these externals manually, because the build process currently doesn´t include them into to builds. Another difference is you do

RE: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Hey Rick, The only difference I have seen is the ability to open password protected stacks. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Rick

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Ralph, It looks to me that they did it this way because there isn’t any automatic way to check for a valid license the same way as the paid version of LiveCode works. As you say, the commercial version of LC server lacks the GUI which would make that auto-validation step possible. A list of

RE: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
There is no license registration for LC server because there is no GUI. You only have the rights to use the commercial server if you have paid version of LC. This way only account holders with the proper license can download the commercial server. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-20 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Matthias, I have been downloading everything from the downloads page for so long that I hardly ever visit my Livecode account page. Apparently now there is a separate tab just for server which has a password attached. Why this appears to be the exception to the rule of getting everything

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Rick, if you have an Indy or Business license of Livecode , then you should find the commercial license of LcServer in your Livcode account. Regards, Matthias > Am 19.11.2017 um 22:30 schrieb Rick Harrison via use-livecode >

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-19 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Matthias, I thought there was only the Community Version of LiveCode Server available. Where would I be able to get the Commercial Version, because if there is one, I am indeed entitled to use it! Thanks, Rick > On Nov 19, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode >

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-19 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> Am 19.11.2017 um 02:17 schrieb Alex Tweedly via use-livecode > >: > > For anyone who doesn't use HostM - they use the latest released version for > .lc scripts (currently 8.1.7), but by default support script file

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-18 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Thanks Matthias. See my reply to Ralf re. where to find ArrayToJSON etc. I guess I could install my own version of LC server in each cgi-bin - but I play around with a lot of add-on and sub-domains - some within public-html, some not - and it just feels like unnecessay extra work to install

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-18 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Hi Ralf, Thanks - but that's actually a different  JSON extension :-) That is an LCB library that defines JsonExport and JsonImport. However, I looked around some more, and found Tools/Ext/mergJSON-1.0.38 That's an external which defines mergJSONEncode and mergJSONDecode But the docs for it 

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-18 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Hi Alex, you should find the JSON extension in: Tools/Extensions/com.livecode.library.json/module.lcm If you use revIgniter create a folder “extensions” in your application folder and place the “com.livecode.library.json” folder including the “module.lcm” file there. Then load the

Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)

2017-11-18 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Alex, you are not alone. I noticed something similar with LcServer 7.10 on the On-Rev server Tio. $_post arrays where empty when data was formatted with libUrlMultipartFormData, while $_post_raw showed the content. So it was not possible to post larger binary data to LcServer. I send a