Re: SE Show Globals inverted

2021-09-08 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Yes. I've also seen crashes on non-conditional breakpoints.  I literally
save before any test run. Then at suitable junctures I intercept savestack
(+ controlKey down) to write the stack out as Json + script only stack and
commit it all to my VCS.

But again I haven't (yet) noticed a pattern with these things. I did notice
that the remote debugger prevents all IDE stack breakpoints from working
until the app is closed on a test device.  For a long time I couldn't
understand why breakpoints had stopped working and why no-one else was
having this problem.  Then finally it struck me that there may only be a
small group of us using remote debugger (+ Android).

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 8:50 PM Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> And while we're confessing laziness, my more shameful confession is about
> a
> crashing bug when using conditional breakpoints. I've become used to being
> very wary as soon as I start using these, and saving very often. Have
> others
> seen this issue?
>
>
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Re: SE Show Globals inverted

2021-09-08 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
And when it happens, all the LC globals show up too regardless of the "Show IDE Stacks in 
Lists" setting.


On 9/8/21 12:56 PM, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode wrote:

I've seen it for years too. I never worked out what caused it.  But I'm an
inveterate user of the message box when debugging. I will look out for a
pattern to it now.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 6:32 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
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This has been going on for years but I never reported it because... lazy.
For me, it happens when I'm stepping through a handler and I change or
query something in the message box.

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On September 8, 2021 11:25:24 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
 wrote:


Here's a new one. I've noticed this before, that globals were appearing
when show globals checkbox was not hilited. I just noticed that during

this

condition, checking the show globals checkbox hides the globals! LOL!

I'll

toss up a bug report later.

Bob S


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Re: SE Show Globals inverted

2021-09-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode
I've not knowingly seen this issue. But while we're discussing viewing global 
variables, I still mourn this regression introduced in LC 8, when the message 
box stopped allowing inspection of arrays in global variables (the SE still does):

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17478

And while we're confessing laziness, my more shameful confession is about a 
crashing bug when using conditional breakpoints. I've become used to being 
very wary as soon as I start using these, and saving very often. Have others 
seen this issue?


Ben

On 08/09/2021 18:31, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
This has been going on for years but I never reported it because... lazy. For 
me, it happens when I'm stepping through a handler and I change or query 
something in the message box.


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On September 8, 2021 11:25:24 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Here's a new one. I've noticed this before, that globals were appearing when 
show globals checkbox was not hilited. I just noticed that during this 
condition, checking the show globals checkbox hides the globals! LOL! I'll 
toss up a bug report later.


Bob S


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Re: SE Show Globals inverted

2021-09-08 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
I've seen it for years too. I never worked out what caused it.  But I'm an
inveterate user of the message box when debugging. I will look out for a
pattern to it now.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 6:32 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> This has been going on for years but I never reported it because... lazy.
> For me, it happens when I'm stepping through a handler and I change or
> query something in the message box.
>
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On September 8, 2021 11:25:24 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
>  wrote:
>
> > Here's a new one. I've noticed this before, that globals were appearing
> > when show globals checkbox was not hilited. I just noticed that during
> this
> > condition, checking the show globals checkbox hides the globals! LOL!
> I'll
> > toss up a bug report later.
> >
> > Bob S
> >
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Re: SE Show Globals inverted

2021-09-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Good to know. Not a knockout blow by any means, and at least now I know the 
workaround. :-)

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> On Sep 8, 2021, at 10:33, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This has been going on for years but I never reported it because... lazy. 
> For me, it happens when I'm stepping through a handler and I change or query 
> something in the message box.
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> On September 8, 2021 11:25:24 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Here's a new one. I've noticed this before, that globals were appearing when 
>> show globals checkbox was not hilited. I just noticed that during this 
>> condition, checking the show globals checkbox hides the globals! LOL! I'll 
>> toss up a bug report later.
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
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Re: SE Show Globals inverted

2021-09-08 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
This has been going on for years but I never reported it because... lazy. 
For me, it happens when I'm stepping through a handler and I change or 
query something in the message box.


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On September 8, 2021 11:25:24 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Here's a new one. I've noticed this before, that globals were appearing 
when show globals checkbox was not hilited. I just noticed that during this 
condition, checking the show globals checkbox hides the globals! LOL! I'll 
toss up a bug report later.


Bob S


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