Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Dear Håkan,
Please accept my apologies at not replying to you before, and many thanks for
contacting me and the suggestion. For our current use we can manually set the
tab positions in a field, and now that we have learnt to combine "open printing
to pdf" and “ evPrintField" we can easily output formatted .pdf docs. Why this
is not identified in the dictionary I don’t know, but like a lot of things in
LC, and all of its predecessors, the dictionary leaves a lot to be desired and
really you have to use it a lot to get proficient, to use the expertise of the
user lists !!
Again, many thanks for the help, I hope I can reciprocate at some time.
Kind regards, Bob...
> On Apr 11, 2019, at 07:01, ha...@exformedia.se wrote:
>
> If you want the tab stops to be included in the file I guess you need to add
> them manually to the rtf file. There is a \tx command in rtf that sets the
> tab size. I used it long time ago so I don’t remember of it was relative or
> absolut positions but I do think it should be doable…
>
> :-Håkan
> On 8 Apr 2019, 18:25 +0200, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode
> , wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply Paul. Yes, tried that but there are problems. It saves
>> a .rtf file but when you open that in MSWord (OS X or Windows) the tabs are
>> changed to underscores. If you open the file in OS X TextEdit it does have
>> tabs but the position/spacing is not retained. I’ve created a sample/test
>> stack if anybody wants to play ;-)
>>
>> Our project is supposed to create a formatted file that external to the LC
>> project, gets assembled with other documents/files to make a presentable
>> report. The other docs/files are .rtf (created in MSWord or Pages or
>> TextEdit) and an .eps file. The final report will be a .pdf and Acrobat is
>> likely what will get used to manually assemble the final report.
>>
>> To quote my valued colleague (RogerG) on this problem, and who has spent
>> inordinate hours trying to find a solution, tabs have turned out to be
>> tricky little devils in LC !!
>>
>> best, Bob...
>>
>>> From: Paul Dupuis mailto:p...@researchware.com>>
>>> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its
>>> formatting
>>> Message-ID: >> <mailto:ce0de0c4-5daa-22c0-bf46-cfeceb79a...@researchware.com>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> I take it your have tried:
>>>
>>> put the rtfText of field "X" into URL
>>> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>>>
>>> And then reading it back to a new field with:
>>>
>>> set the rtfText of field "Y" to URL
>>> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>>>
>>> and the tab spacing is not preserved?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/7/2019 7:57 PM, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode wrote:
>>>> Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want to
>>>> save that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file format
>>>> ideally should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats such as .pdf
>>>>
>>>> Anybody got any ideas how to do this ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> best, Bob?
>>>>
>>>> Bob Earp - White Rock, BC, Canada
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Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Why? I already have that for Mac via Applescript and Javascript. You can also populate a .fdf file if it's properly formatted, and the PDF is configured to access it upon opening. Also there is the qrtPDFLib. Bob S > On Apr 9, 2019, at 09:00 , Robert J. Earp via use-livecode > wrote: > > RogerG and I are currently mousing around creating a LC tool to output a > fields content to .pdfIt’s looking promising and we’ll let you know of > our success or not !! > > best, Bob… > > Bob Earp - White Rock, BC ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
If you want the tab stops to be included in the file I guess you need to add
them manually to the rtf file. There is a \tx command in rtf that sets the tab
size. I used it long time ago so I don’t remember of it was relative or absolut
positions but I do think it should be doable…
:-Håkan
On 8 Apr 2019, 18:25 +0200, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode
, wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Paul. Yes, tried that but there are problems. It saves a
> .rtf file but when you open that in MSWord (OS X or Windows) the tabs are
> changed to underscores. If you open the file in OS X TextEdit it does have
> tabs but the position/spacing is not retained. I’ve created a sample/test
> stack if anybody wants to play ;-)
>
> Our project is supposed to create a formatted file that external to the LC
> project, gets assembled with other documents/files to make a presentable
> report. The other docs/files are .rtf (created in MSWord or Pages or
> TextEdit) and an .eps file. The final report will be a .pdf and Acrobat is
> likely what will get used to manually assemble the final report.
>
> To quote my valued colleague (RogerG) on this problem, and who has spent
> inordinate hours trying to find a solution, tabs have turned out to be tricky
> little devils in LC !!
>
> best, Bob...
>
> > From: Paul Dupuis mailto:p...@researchware.com>>
> > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> > Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its
> > formatting
> > Message-ID: > <mailto:ce0de0c4-5daa-22c0-bf46-cfeceb79a...@researchware.com>>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > I take it your have tried:
> >
> > put the rtfText of field "X" into URL
> > ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
> >
> > And then reading it back to a new field with:
> >
> > set the rtfText of field "Y" to URL
> > ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
> >
> > and the tab spacing is not preserved?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/7/2019 7:57 PM, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode wrote:
> > > Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want to
> > > save that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file format
> > > ideally should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats such as
> > > .pdf
> > >
> > > Anybody got any ideas how to do this ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
> > >
> > > best, Bob?
> > >
> > > Bob Earp - White Rock, BC, Canada
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Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Have you tried revPrintField? It's an oldie but goodie.
From: use-livecode on behalf of Robert
J. Earp via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:24 PM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Robert J. Earp
Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Thanks for the reply Paul. Yes, tried that but there are problems. It saves a
.rtf file but when you open that in MSWord (OS X or Windows) the tabs are
changed to underscores. If you open the file in OS X TextEdit it does have
tabs but the position/spacing is not retained. I’ve created a sample/test
stack if anybody wants to play ;-)
Our project is supposed to create a formatted file that external to the LC
project, gets assembled with other documents/files to make a presentable
report. The other docs/files are .rtf (created in MSWord or Pages or TextEdit)
and an .eps file. The final report will be a .pdf and Acrobat is likely what
will get used to manually assemble the final report.
To quote my valued colleague (RogerG) on this problem, and who has spent
inordinate hours trying to find a solution, tabs have turned out to be tricky
little devils in LC !!
best, Bob...
> From: Paul Dupuis mailto:p...@researchware.com>>
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its
> formatting
> Message-ID: <mailto:ce0de0c4-5daa-22c0-bf46-cfeceb79a...@researchware.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I take it your have tried:
>
> put the rtfText of field "X" into URL
> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>
> And then reading it back to a new field with:
>
> set the rtfText of field "Y" to URL
> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>
> and the tab spacing is not preserved?
>
>
>
> On 4/7/2019 7:57 PM, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode wrote:
>> Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want to
>> save that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file format
>> ideally should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats such as .pdf
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas how to do this ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>>
>> best, Bob?
>>
>> Bob Earp - White Rock, BC, Canada
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Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Robert J. Earp wrote: > Many thanks Paul and to Ron Metzker who kindly contacted me off-list > with a comprehensive handler of what he does using revPrintField. > I must admit that the Dictionary still leaves a lot to be desired and > without the valued members of this and other lists LC would not be so > successful ;-) I find communities invaluable for everything I learn. What could we do with the Dictionary to make it more useful in this case? > We will need a cross platform (OS X / Windows) solution for our > project and although things seem to work great to both print and > save a .pdf using revPrintField, I’m not sure if Windows supports > a print to .pdf feature. The Dictionary describes the PDF print option as being available on macOS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. I've used it on everything but iOS - works like a champ. > As with Ron, I too am OS X based so I can’t check it A $80 copy of Windows and this fine VM will change your life: https://www.virtualbox.org/ Free, open source, fast, simple and flexible: best VM I've ever used (thanks to Mark Wieder for getting me to try it). You'll be able to share folders with the PC instance, as well as Clipboard contents, networking, and more. Sometimes installing on metal is necessary, but for most day-to-day stuff a good VM inside the OS of your choice is a developer's workflow dream come true. > but I’m led to believe that Windows 10 supports such, but does anybody > know if previous versions of Windows does ? It's not dependent on OS PDF drivers, so it should work on any supported Windows version. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Robert J. Earp wrote: > Richard wrote: >> > Would LC's built-in print to PDF support not be an option? > > Richard, many thanks for the thought. If you mean the built-in > “printing to pdf” then yes, but as far as I could see it only prints > cards, not just field content. Is there other pdf support ? All printing in LC is based on a card, but has some very flexible options like printing a header into one rect, a footer into another, and the body into the middle before closing the page. Coupled with the nifty metrics we can get for field rendering, even styled text can be printed quite nicely. But all that can be tedious work. Nice if you have specialized needs, but if you have a field ready to go the folks at LC have already done the work for you: see the revPrintField command. LC's PDF generator will take any output LC can produce, so using that in conjunction with revPrintField may be just what you're looking for. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Many thanks Paul and to Ron Metzker who kindly contacted me off-list with a comprehensive handler of what he does using revPrintField. I must admit that the Dictionary still leaves a lot to be desired and without the valued members of this and other lists LC would not be so successful ;-) We will need a cross platform (OS X / Windows) solution for our project and although things seem to work great to both print and save a .pdf using revPrintField, I’m not sure if Windows supports a print to .pdf feature. As with Ron, I too am OS X based so I can’t check it, but I’m led to believe that Windows 10 supports such, but does anybody know if previous versions of Windows does ? Thanks, Bob… White Rock, BC > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 13:23:50 -0400 > From: Paul Dupuis mailto:p...@researchware.com>> > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its > formatting > > Look at "revPrintField" in the Dictionary. If I recall, I think this can > be used with the open printing to pdf command ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Look at "revPrintField" in the Dictionary. If I recall, I think this can be used with the open printing to pdf command On 4/10/2019 12:46 PM, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode wrote: Richard, many thanks for the thought. If you mean the built-in “printing to pdf” then yes, but as far as I could see it only prints cards, not just field content. Is there other pdf support ? So, we’re having to mess around with creating a series of cards with a single field on each with their rects set to US Letter size, copying the desired field content into these and then printing to a pdf file. With the current project where the field to print remains roughly the same character count it’s not a biggy to get pagination right, but I was hoping to build a tool that could take any size of field content with whatever tabs and output that automatically to a .pdf of letter size that may be one or more pages. I haven’t got into controlling fonts yet, meaning does the “printing to pdf” use the font attributes that are displayed in the field on the card or ? My simple test suggests yes. best, Bob... Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting Robert J. Earp wrote: I?m not sure if the HTMLText solution will work for us as by default the output file would open in a browser and we need to get it into .pdf format to assemble (in Acrobat) with the other parts of the report. RogerG and I are currently mousing around creating a LC tool to output a fields content to .pdfIt?s looking promising and we?ll let you know of our success or not !! Would LC's built-in print to PDF support not be an option? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Richard, many thanks for the thought. If you mean the built-in “printing to pdf” then yes, but as far as I could see it only prints cards, not just field content. Is there other pdf support ? So, we’re having to mess around with creating a series of cards with a single field on each with their rects set to US Letter size, copying the desired field content into these and then printing to a pdf file. With the current project where the field to print remains roughly the same character count it’s not a biggy to get pagination right, but I was hoping to build a tool that could take any size of field content with whatever tabs and output that automatically to a .pdf of letter size that may be one or more pages. I haven’t got into controlling fonts yet, meaning does the “printing to pdf” use the font attributes that are displayed in the field on the card or ? My simple test suggests yes. best, Bob... > Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its > formatting > > Robert J. Earp wrote: > >> I?m not sure if the HTMLText solution will work for us as by default >> the output file would open in a browser and we need to get it into >> .pdf format to assemble (in Acrobat) with the other parts of the >> report. >> >> RogerG and I are currently mousing around creating a LC tool to output >> a fields content to .pdfIt?s looking promising and we?ll let you >> know of our success or not !! > > Would LC's built-in print to PDF support not be an option? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Robert J. Earp wrote: > I’m not sure if the HTMLText solution will work for us as by default > the output file would open in a browser and we need to get it into > .pdf format to assemble (in Acrobat) with the other parts of the > report. > > RogerG and I are currently mousing around creating a LC tool to output > a fields content to .pdfIt’s looking promising and we’ll let you > know of our success or not !! Would LC's built-in print to PDF support not be an option? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Many thanks for all of the great response and from such experts !! I’m not sure if the HTMLText solution will work for us as by default the output file would open in a browser and we need to get it into .pdf format to assemble (in Acrobat) with the other parts of the report. RogerG and I are currently mousing around creating a LC tool to output a fields content to .pdfIt’s looking promising and we’ll let you know of our success or not !! best, Bob… Bob Earp - White Rock, BC > Our project is supposed to create a formatted file that external to the LC > project, gets assembled with other documents/files to make a presentable > report. The other docs/files are .rtf (created in MSWord or Pages or > TextEdit) and an .eps file. The final report will be a .pdf and Acrobat is > likely what will get used to manually assemble the final report. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
On 2019-04-08 18:27, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: No tabstops using the styledText property either. This is the one I would have expected to include the tab stops/widths. Both styledText and htmlText representations do include the tabStops (and tabAlign) settings - however both those formats (by default) only encode the field content (e.g. paragraph styles, character styles and text). If you want the properties inherited into the field content (i.e. from all ancestor objects, including the field itself) then you can use the 'effective' adjective. In contrast, rtfText is always generated as if 'effective' is specified (as you can't encode the notion of inheritance of property values in RTF) - however, as has been noticed, it does not support the tabStops nor tabAlign properties). Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
This is a bit more useful. Pass the long id of the field object:
function fieldToHTMLTable pFieldID
if not there is a field pFieldID then return "ERROR: Field object does not
exist!"
put the htmltext of pFieldID into ht
put the effective textSize of pFieldID into fs
put the tabstops of pFieldID into tStops
put the width of pFieldID into fw
put empty into tabbs
-- we need tabstops relative, not absolute
put item 1 of tStops into tabbs[1]
repeat with i=2 to the num of items of tStops
put item i of tStops - item (i-1) of tStops into tabbs[i]
end repeat
set itemdel to ("&" & "#9;");
set linedel to ""
replace "" with empty in ht
put ""into s0
repeat for each line L in ht
put empty into s
repeat with i=1 to the num of items of L
put item i of L into II
put "" &II& "" after s
end repeat
if s is not empty then put cr&""&s&"" after s0
end repeat
put "" & cr & \
"" & \
s0 & cr & "" into htm
return htm
end fieldToHTMLTable
Bob S
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 09:07 , hh via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> -- Converts a simple table field with tabstops to a html
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RE: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
No tabstops using the styledText property either. This is the one I would have expected to include the tab stops/widths. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 11:56 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Richard Gaskin Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting Robert J. Earp wrote: > Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want > to save that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file > format ideally should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats > such as .pdf > > Anybody got any ideas how to do this ? Short answer: Not directly just yet, but with RTF being a text format you could write a function to add column widths to RTF on export. Longer answer: Exporting the contents of a field does not export the properties of a field object itself. But with the enhancements of v5.4 we now have MANY more paragraph-level properties. So we would expect that setting the tabStops (or the newer tabWidths, sometimes a more useful alternative) of each line within the field would produce rtFText that includes those column specifiers. But alas, I just tried it and it does not. If someone has time to catalog those RTF features that LC now supports with fields but does not include in rtfText it may be helpful to file an enhancement request to bring rtfText current with the full range of relevant text properties. RtfText is not designed to be able to reproduce an LC field with complete fidelity (that's htmlText's role), but should include all attributes common to both LC and RTF, and AFAIK did cover almost all of them until v5.4 introduced all the new paragraph and inline styling properties. For now, a workaround would be to write a function that walks through the rows and columns of a field, including column width specifiers as you go. Tedious, but doable. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Thanks for the reply Paul. Yes, tried that but there are problems. It saves a
.rtf file but when you open that in MSWord (OS X or Windows) the tabs are
changed to underscores. If you open the file in OS X TextEdit it does have
tabs but the position/spacing is not retained. I’ve created a sample/test
stack if anybody wants to play ;-)
Our project is supposed to create a formatted file that external to the LC
project, gets assembled with other documents/files to make a presentable
report. The other docs/files are .rtf (created in MSWord or Pages or TextEdit)
and an .eps file. The final report will be a .pdf and Acrobat is likely what
will get used to manually assemble the final report.
To quote my valued colleague (RogerG) on this problem, and who has spent
inordinate hours trying to find a solution, tabs have turned out to be tricky
little devils in LC !!
best, Bob...
> From: Paul Dupuis mailto:p...@researchware.com>>
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
> Subject: Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its
> formatting
> Message-ID: <mailto:ce0de0c4-5daa-22c0-bf46-cfeceb79a...@researchware.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I take it your have tried:
>
> put the rtfText of field "X" into URL
> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>
> And then reading it back to a new field with:
>
> set the rtfText of field "Y" to URL
> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>
> and the tab spacing is not preserved?
>
>
>
> On 4/7/2019 7:57 PM, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode wrote:
>> Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want to
>> save that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file format
>> ideally should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats such as .pdf
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas how to do this ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
>>
>> best, Bob?
>>
>> Bob Earp - White Rock, BC, Canada
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Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Robert J. Earp wrote: > Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want > to save that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file > format ideally should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats > such as .pdf > > Anybody got any ideas how to do this ? Short answer: Not directly just yet, but with RTF being a text format you could write a function to add column widths to RTF on export. Longer answer: Exporting the contents of a field does not export the properties of a field object itself. But with the enhancements of v5.4 we now have MANY more paragraph-level properties. So we would expect that setting the tabStops (or the newer tabWidths, sometimes a more useful alternative) of each line within the field would produce rtFText that includes those column specifiers. But alas, I just tried it and it does not. If someone has time to catalog those RTF features that LC now supports with fields but does not include in rtfText it may be helpful to file an enhancement request to bring rtfText current with the full range of relevant text properties. RtfText is not designed to be able to reproduce an LC field with complete fidelity (that's htmlText's role), but should include all attributes common to both LC and RTF, and AFAIK did cover almost all of them until v5.4 introduced all the new paragraph and inline styling properties. For now, a workaround would be to write a function that walks through the rows and columns of a field, including column width specifiers as you go. Tedious, but doable. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
I just tested with htmltext. Tab stops are NOT preserved.
Bob S
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 07:55 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> On 4/7/2019 9:00 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
>> I take it your have tried:
>>
>> put the rtfText of field "X" into URL
>> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>>
>> And then reading it back to a new field with:
>>
>> set the rtfText of field "Y" to URL
>> ("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
>>
>> and the tab spacing is not preserved?
>>
>
> If the rtfText does nto preserve the tabstops, the htmlText should preserve
> the tabstops. See the dictionary entry for the htmlText property of a field.
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Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Because the tab stops are not part of the data of any formatted text properties. You can test this by creating a table field, setting the tab stops to whatever you want, typing some information, setting the clipBoardData ["rtftext"] to the rtftext of the table field, then pasting into a word document as formatted text. Word retains it's own tab stops, because none of the tab stops set in the table field are in the rtf text copied to the clipboard. Bob S > On Apr 8, 2019, at 06:25 , dunbarxx via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi. > > I am always missing something. Why is there an issue retaining tabs in a > body of ordinary text? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
On 4/7/2019 9:00 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
I take it your have tried:
put the rtfText of field "X" into URL
("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
And then reading it back to a new field with:
set the rtfText of field "Y" to URL
("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
and the tab spacing is not preserved?
If the rtfText does nto preserve the tabstops, the htmlText should
preserve the tabstops. See the dictionary entry for the htmlText
property of a field.
If neither the rtfText property of a field, nor the htmlText property of
a field preserve the tabstops (again, not sure about rtfText, but the
Dictionary implies htmlText does), you can use
put the arralEncode(the styledText of field "X") into URL
("binfile:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.bin")
And then reading it back to a new field with:
put URL
("binfile:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.bin")into
tFieldData
set the styledText of field "Y" to arrayDecode(tFieldData)
But this later approach does not produce an RTF or HTML file that can be
opened in other software tools like Microsoft Word
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Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
I am usually very good at describing problems. I am not so good at describing solutions. Craig -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
That is a very clear explanation of what I think the problem is. Roger > On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:03 AM, dunbarxx via use-livecode > wrote: > > But that is a property of a field, not of text, and I do not think such > information can be similarly "transmitted", regardless of how that text is > formatted. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Aha. TabStops. Unless I am missing something, is it that the data in a tabStop formatted field is to be copied somehow, so that if loaded into a brand new field, the tabStops property is also "loaded" into that field? But that is a property of a field, not of text, and I do not think such information can be similarly "transmitted", regardless of how that text is formatted. I could be wrong. Craig -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
I don’t think it is the tab character but rather the tab stops that are the problem. Brian On Apr 8, 2019, 9:26 AM -0400, dunbarxx via use-livecode , wrote: > Hi. > > I am always missing something. Why is there an issue retaining tabs in a > body of ordinary text? > > I have a table field with "A" & tab & "B" & tab & "C" in it. If I write that > text into a file on my desktop and then load it back into the second line of > that field: > > on mouseUp > get fld 1 > > open file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" for text write > write it to file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" > close file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" > > open file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" for read > read from file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" until EOF > close file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" > > put it into line 2 of fld 1 > end mouseUp > > The identical text is now in line 2, all tabs intact. No rtf stuff needed. > > I am always missing something. > > Craig Newman > > > > -- > Sent from: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
Hi. I am always missing something. Why is there an issue retaining tabs in a body of ordinary text? I have a table field with "A" & tab & "B" & tab & "C" in it. If I write that text into a file on my desktop and then load it back into the second line of that field: on mouseUp get fld 1 open file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" for text write write it to file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" close file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" open file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" for read read from file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" until EOF close file "/users/craignewman/desktop/xxx" put it into line 2 of fld 1 end mouseUp The identical text is now in line 2, all tabs intact. No rtf stuff needed. I am always missing something. Craig Newman -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
I take it your have tried:
put the rtfText of field "X" into URL
("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
And then reading it back to a new field with:
set the rtfText of field "Y" to URL
("file:"&specialFolderPath("desktop")&slash&"savedfield.rtf")
and the tab spacing is not preserved?
On 4/7/2019 7:57 PM, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode wrote:
Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want to save
that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file format ideally
should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats such as .pdf
Anybody got any ideas how to do this ?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
best, Bob…
Bob Earp - White Rock, BC, Canada
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Re: Saving a tab formatted field to a file and retaining its formatting
I sent a similar message some time ago to no avail. Let’s see if you are more successful. R > On Apr 7, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Robert J. Earp via use-livecode > wrote: > > Dear all, we have a field that is formatted nicely with tabs and want to save > that as a file, retaining the tab formatting. The saved file format ideally > should be .rtf but we may be able to use other formats such as .pdf > > Anybody got any ideas how to do this ? > > Thanks in advance for your suggestions. > > best, Bob… > > Bob Earp - White Rock, BC, Canada > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
