RE: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-14 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:20 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant... On 12/12/18 1:20 PM, Paul Dupuis via use

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2018-12-13 Thread JB via use-livecode
That is good! So, what is the process of selling with Apple? 1. Pay for a developers license 2. Create standalone 3. Get a certificate 4. Strip out all of the 32-bit files 5. Code sign the app with terminal or another app 6. Place app on the app store or wherever JB > On Dec 13, 2018,

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-13 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
I, myself am right now trying to figure out Apple’s system so I can publish my (not-mobile, not-App Store) program which is distributed from my website, and not have the user see dire warnings. I’m in the Dev program, have the certificate, but am still having the issue. So I am very interested

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2018-12-13 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
For anyone interested, my OSX Code Signing nightmare has been resolved. Only one person contacted me with an offer of consulting on an online meeting, Sean Cole of Pi Digital Products Ltd. A huge thank you to Sean. Our online meeting lasted 15 minutes. As I expected, in a few minutes he

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-13 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 12/12/18 1:20 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: Either there are not enough people willing to pay for 3rd party developer services for 3rd party developers to make a living at it OR the market of people wanting LC related developer expertise is larger than the available number of

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-12 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Thanks for the kind words Marty! I’m glad it has been a worthwhile transition for you. The Sparkle and WinSparkle helpers are great examples of what the Foreign Function Interface in LCB makes available to LiveCode. And by using the “helper” component in Levure a developer can combine complex LCB

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-12 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Tips from LiceCode.com or from Google searches or Apple articles or on 3rd party web sites (like Trevor's) are great ... for the people who want to setup code signing themselves. For LiveCode to be really considered an effective development environment for building commercial application, a

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I really want to switch to Levure too, but my main project is quite complicated, and it will take a goodly amount of time. Plus, since I implemented chained behaviors for my datagrids, I'm not sure I can incorporate that into Levure. Bob S > On Dec 12, 2018, at 09:56 , Knapp Martin via

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-12 Thread Knapp Martin via use-livecode
In my experience, it’s easy to make a mess of your certificates from Apple. Then, if you’re like me, you finally get it set up but when you need to renew them a few years later you’ve forgotten what you did the last time to get it right (or is that just me?). I’d like to give a plug here for

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-12 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Google kows how to find some interesting topics about this too. BTW i'm on mojave and it run with double clicking it, so i assumed it was not really neccessary. But for the store you need it, same as for windows store you need to sign it too. Maybe this can help some people too:

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I would love to know if you accomplished your goal and what the price tag ended up being, I'm interested in the same service...or at least be taught how to do it. Lots of tips in this thread as well, but I too would rather save the research in the learning curve in this respect esp for mac.

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2018-12-11 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Hi Paul I was unable to look properly at your email earlier as I was working on something else but noted the subject as something to follow up on. I’m sorry that no one else seemed to be of help. It is unusual as I was sure that someone would have offered. If you are still in need I have some

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
> 11. des. 2018 kl. 23:40 skrev Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > I'm on High Sierra, and that is how it works for me. > > Bob S I am on Mojave now, so I may remember wrongly about High Sierra, but the contextual menu method works on both of them anyhow. Tore

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm on High Sierra, and that is how it works for me. Bob S > On Dec 11, 2018, at 14:33 , Tore Nilsen via use-livecode > wrote: > >> 11. des. 2018 kl. 23:28 skrev Bob Sneidar via use-livecode >> : >> >> I think if you double click it and get the unsafe app dialog, you can open >> Security

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Knapp Martin via use-livecode
I agree Bob. But there really does need to be a basis of trust or you’re asking for trouble. I did that once and very much regretted it - downloaded a demo installer for an app I was interested in. What I got was a trojan horse that attempted to divert my internet connection in an ploy to send

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
> 11. des. 2018 kl. 23:28 skrev Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > I think if you double click it and get the unsafe app dialog, you can open > Security & Privacy, and there should be a button to approve the most recent > "unsafe" app. Not in High Sierra or Mojave. The only options are

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Agreed, but for a local deployment, like the company I work for, I should never be forced to sign my apps. That would be onerous in my opinion. Bob S > On Dec 11, 2018, at 14:26 , Knapp Martin via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think on Sierra and older there was a 3rd option in the security

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
You are right, there was this third option prior to High Sierra. I agree that if you distribute an application as a professional developer, you need to code sign it. Tore Nilsen > 11. des. 2018 kl. 23:26 skrev Knapp Martin via use-livecode > : > > I think on Sierra and older there was a

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think if you double click it and get the unsafe app dialog, you can open Security & Privacy, and there should be a button to approve the most recent "unsafe" app. Bob S > On Dec 11, 2018, at 14:24 , Tore Nilsen via use-livecode > wrote: > > You can easily run an unsigned app on High

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Knapp Martin via use-livecode
I think on Sierra and older there was a 3rd option in the security section to choose from “Anywhere” but that is gone in High Sierra and Mojave. There is a trick to get around this, outlined here: https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/mac-software/mac-app-unidentified-developer-3669596/ But you

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
You can easily run an unsigned app on High Sierra or Mojave. But you can not start the application by double clicking it the first time you run it. You need to open it from a contextual menu (right click or ctrl click) and then choose «Open» in the resulting dialog window. Afterwards you can

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2018-12-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Can't you do a one time approval for an unsigned app? Also, I think you can turn that feature off in Security & Privacy. > On Dec 11, 2018, at 13:58 , Knapp Martin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Maybe you can run unsigned apps downloaded on older Mac OSs but you cannot do > it on either High

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Knapp Martin via use-livecode
Maybe you can run unsigned apps downloaded on older Mac OSs but you cannot do it on either High Sierra or Mojave. The app has to be either from the "App Store" or from "Identified developers” (code signed). You can run an app you build on your own computer but to distribute and download they

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread JJS via use-livecode
just made a quick test with the MacOsx standalone i just runs you don't need to code sign as far as i could see just try it, and if you don't have a MAC but have a fairly new PC then try to create a multiboot with hackintosh look on tonymacx86.com on how to do it Op 11-12-2018 om 22:46

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Is it then needed to code sign it? (i'm not really sure but) Did you already try to run a macos standalone on a mac? And you mean the signature where is set? I f i'm correct you can just run the standalone on mac. I also develop on windows, but i think i jump to macos for the android

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I do appreciate the tips. However, the reason we want to PAY someone who knows this is to avoid the learning time. Also, we do not develop for iOS nor do we deploy to the Mac App store, so hopefully none of the lessons pertaining to those apply to us. As stated in my initial email, we

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Did you do these lessons on lessons.livecode.com ? http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4069/l/308242-how-do-i-create-a-development-profile-for-ios http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4069/l/1009412-how-to-create-a-free-ios-development-provisioning-profile

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 12/10/2018 3:32 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I have a Macbook Pro with El Capitn (10.11) and XCode 8.2.1. I also have AppWrapper 3 by Ohanaware. I need help setting up to be able to code sign OSX applications for distribution from our web site (NOT via the MacOS App Store). I am

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-11 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 12/10/2018 9:57 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Does the Xcode option for it to manage certificates help?  So far I just compile for iOS testing (don’t have a paid dev account yet), but it automatically updates the cert when needed. Thanks, Brian On Dec 10, 2018, 8:40 PM -0600,

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Does the Xcode option for it to manage certificates help?  So far I just compile for iOS testing (don’t have a paid dev account yet), but it automatically updates the cert when needed. Thanks, Brian On Dec 10, 2018, 8:40 PM -0600, prothero--- via use-livecode , wrote: > Folks, > This is sooo

Re: Seeking OSX Code signing consultant...

2018-12-10 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Folks, This is sooo needed. I had to shake my head at the situation where so many certificates have been downloaded that you (me too) lose track of what’s what. My best strategy was to delete them all and start over. But, they seem to be stored in multiple locations, so it wasn’t easy to find