Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Also.for anyone who is interested...I received a very reasonable and fair quote from Livecode Inc. to develop the driver library. Its going into our spreadsheet and some meetings in September. will keep y'all posted. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Tom Glod wrote: >

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Hi Richard, thanks for sharing more thoughts on this subject... its interesting to hear about your experience with the IT departments. I am anticipating just about anything and your message reminded me to literally be ready for all kinds of things. Its the beautiful thing about a web app

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Tom Glod wrote: > The plan so far is to work with the IT dept (guy or gal) and help them > to set up safely and securely based on their particular requirements. No disrespect to IT staff keeping businesses running safely, but FWUW the main reason we ported one of our apps from native to

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The plan so far is to work with the IT dept (guy or gal) and help them to set up safely and securely based on their particular requirements. Never considered providing our own boxes. but i might think about it now. There'd be an increased cost, but decreased costs elsewhere. Decisions

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Tom Glod wrote: Hi Richard the software we build is all self-hosted, so our customers are going to be running the db servers on their own LAN. Much simpler indeed. Will you be providing the box as well? Or automating the installation/setup? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems

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Hi Richard the software we build is all self-hosted, so our customers are going to be running the db servers on their own LAN. Definately when we build cloud services for them they will be communicating via an extra layer or two between the db and the world. Thanks for weighing inI'll

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Yeah, I started to skim the security notes at , but when I got to this: The best way to secure a RethinkDB cluster is to run it on a protected network that doesn’t allow access from the outside world. However, this may not always be feasible.

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to answer your question, the database cluster will be accepting connections and queries from clients directly. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Tom Glod wrote: > Hi Richard . like Alex said, there is no Rest api for RethinkDB. The > folks at RethinkDB didn't want to

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Hi Richard . like Alex said, there is no Rest api for RethinkDB. The folks at RethinkDB didn't want to expose the whole query language using a rest api, (if i recall correctly they said it is too powerful to do so)...so the driver only accepts queries via driver port and streams resulting

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I was thinking the same thing. This isn't a database function per se, it's more like a sockets function. Bob S > On Aug 5, 2017, at 16:42 , Tom Glod via use-livecode > wrote: > > If you go to this page . the specs say that it all happens through an >

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Rethinkdb doesn't have authentication baked in so you have to lock down the ports and use an ssh tunnel to access it on a remote server. Firebase and Parse server (open source) do pub sub and have auth from the get go On 7 Aug 2017 5:10 am, "Mark Wieder via use-livecode" <

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On 08/06/2017 05:20 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: If so, do you plan on connecting the DB directly to the open Internet, or use a middleware supplying a REST API for clients? i would presume not. The USP of RethinkDB (at least from my very quick skim over the website :-) was the

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On 08/05/2017 11:26 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: Mark W.. I know it shouldn't be this difficult, but would you mind sending your handshake code? I'm probably overthinking but can't figure out how to get it to work. email sent -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

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On 07/08/2017 00:39, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Hello Tom - ReThinkDB seems like a good project. I'm assuming this is for client-server over the Internet, yes? If so, do you plan on connecting the DB directly to the open Internet, or use a middleware supplying a REST API for

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Hello Tom - ReThinkDB seems like a good project. I'm assuming this is for client-server over the Internet, yes? If so, do you plan on connecting the DB directly to the open Internet, or use a middleware supplying a REST API for clients? If the latter, you'd only need a means of connecting

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Mark W.. I know it shouldn't be this difficult, but would you mind sending your handshake code? I'm probably overthinking but can't figure out how to get it to work. On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/05/2017 01:36 PM,

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

On 08/05/2017 01:36 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Err - given that revDB is an *SQL* database wrapper and MongoDB is not an SQL database you can imagine that creating an abstraction layer to deal with both might be 'quite' hard - if not impossible. Not so much. What I was

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

On 08/05/2017 04:42 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: So it doesn't really need to have anything to do with the current revdatabase functionswhich the posts seem to be talking about. I'm not asking for a rewrite of db layer. Ah. In that case, I'm a bit confused. What does this have to

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Fantastic. I look forward to the details of the quote. Thanks On Aug 5, 2017 9:58 PM, "Mark Waddingham via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Hi Tom, Nothing in my previous post was to do with your request - we will get back to you as quickly as we can with a quote for

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Hi Tom, Nothing in my previous post was to do with your request - we will get back to you as quickly as we can with a quote for what you asked. Whether that is a driver for revDB or a direct wrapper for the low-level C API raised to a suitable level of abstraction will depend on the analysis

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Hi Mark, I don't really know what to make of that thread and I wouldn't pretend to understand everything thats being talked about here or thereso i'm jst thinking out loud. I believe I might have mis-spoken by calling it a driver. its really a LC external that acts as a driver. If you

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

Err - given that revDB is an *SQL* database wrapper and MongoDB is not an SQL database you can imagine that creating an abstraction layer to deal with both might be 'quite' hard - if not impossible. So, given that we've now been open source for over four years and as such that code has been

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

On 08/04/2017 05:38 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: I have to admit that rethinkdb sounds really interesting - I hadn't heard of it until your posting. Might be worth a crowdfunding / donation request to spread the cost; while I don't have a *need* for it, it might be a worthy target

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Thats definately an option. I'm actually kind of clueless about what the price will be I literally don't have any idea, but the specs don't look that complicated. So i'm optimistic that its semi straight forward. I've made up my mind on this pretty much. Its getting done, no matter what.

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

I have to admit that rethinkdb sounds really interesting - I hadn't heard of it until your posting. Might be worth a crowdfunding / donation request to spread the cost; while I don't have a *need* for it, it might be a worthy target for (a small amount) of my optional spending of my 'pocket

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Thanks Charles. I did hear back from Livecode and they are preparing a quote for me. I will keep you in mind if anything doesn't work there. On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Tom Glod wrote: > nahI need the driver for many reasons. I do plan to donate the > driver to

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nahI need the driver for many reasons. I do plan to donate the driver to the open-source community version once its completed. I don't have any reason why not, I really just need the driver, its an investment for my company for many years to come. On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Mike

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

I don't know the first thing about Rethink, but have you thought about using odbc? On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > 2017-08-03 17:00 GMT+02:00 Bob Sneidar: > > I poked around on their web site. > > What is the advantage of

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

2017-08-03 17:00 GMT+02:00 Bob Sneidar: I poked around on their web site. What is the advantage of this db over other SQL db's? Price? Speed? Ease of > config? > > ​Hi Bob, Here is 1 minute of rethinkDB​... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKPKsBNw604 Regards, Thierry > > On Aug 2,

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Hi Bob... It's a real time dB with push notifications. .. So your application does not query the dB to be updated... The updates are pushed to the clients when there is a change. So you subscribe to a query. So it's way more scalable than traditional databases and way easier to distribute.

Re: Taking quotes on building LC external for RethinkDB

I poked around on their web site. What is the advantage of this db over other SQL db's? Price? Speed? Ease of config? Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 14:12 , Tom Glod via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi folks, my company is currently taking quotes on building an LC