Re: Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

2020-09-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode


> Am 24.09.2020 um 23:20 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> The ability to preserve the original stack file version is a setting in 
> Preferences. I have that turned on too. You can either turn it off, or 
> override it in the Save dialog by choosing a version from the pop up button 
> at the bottom of the dialog.
> 
Here it was not turned on. I turned it on now.

> I also looked at system prefs when trying to resolve the problem to make sure 
> LC was permitted to use internet or sockets or whatever Apple calls it, I 
> can't remember exactly. That didn't fix it though.
> 
It works with newer stacks and their standalones, only the old stack shows this 
behaviour.

> Like you, I also asked on the list here but no one knew the answer. I know 
> that's not much help.
> 
I will bother the Pro Support tomorrow. Let's see, if they can help.

Thanks again

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> On September 24, 2020 2:28:21 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Jacque,
>> 
>> thanks for your answer.
>> 
>> I tried 'Save As' already, but interestingly the value of the 
>> stackfileversion property  remains unchanged.
>> 
>> I've tried all variations. Including tsNet and Internet, only tsNet   and 
>> also just Internet after disabling  tsNet using
>> dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl
>> 
>> Regarding the remote debugger... First i thought a protected substack 
>> (Zygodact register stack) would cause this. But even without the sub tack i 
>> do not get Remote Debugger working.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>>> Am 24.09.2020 um 18:12 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I haven't had the internet problem but I went a whole year once where I 
>>> couldn't get remote debugging to work. I never did figure out why. Then it 
>>> started to work again by itself. I never thought to check the stack file 
>>> version. You could Save As with the latest LC version and see if that helps.
>>> 
>>> I always include both the internet library and TSNet when I need internet 
>>> connections. Did you try using both?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>> On September 23, 2020 6:40:58 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
 created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
 updates as my time allows.
 
 In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select 
 inclusions. I am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 
 9.5.1 on Mac OS 10.14.6
 
 1. I've added some code to call a url using
 put URL "https:.." into tInfo
 
 This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
 INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
 In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I 
 tried also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.
 Tried with tsNet and without.
 
 Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.
 
 
 2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" 
 standalone" or using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not 
 initiated, although i have set red breakpoints and even used the 
 Breakpoint keyword in the script and selected RemoteDebugger to be 
 included in Standalone Settings.
 
 Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.
 
 
 Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. 
 Or does anyone have an idea what might cause this?
 
 What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there 
 is a property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.
 But changing this or removing that property completely does not help 
 either.
 
 
 Regards,
 Matthias
 
 
 
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Re: Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

2020-09-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The ability to preserve the original stack file version is a setting in 
Preferences. I have that turned on too. You can either turn it off, or 
override it in the Save dialog by choosing a version from the pop up button 
at the bottom of the dialog.


I also looked at system prefs when trying to resolve the problem to make 
sure LC was permitted to use internet or sockets or whatever Apple calls 
it, I can't remember exactly. That didn't fix it though.


Like you, I also asked on the list here but no one knew the answer. I know 
that's not much help.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On September 24, 2020 2:28:21 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Jacque,

thanks for your answer.

I tried 'Save As' already, but interestingly the value of the 
stackfileversion property  remains unchanged.


I've tried all variations. Including tsNet and Internet, only tsNet   and 
also just Internet after disabling  tsNet using

dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl

Regarding the remote debugger... First i thought a protected substack 
(Zygodact register stack) would cause this. But even without the sub tack i 
do not get Remote Debugger working.




-
Matthias Rebbe
Life Is Too Short For Boring Code

Am 24.09.2020 um 18:12 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
:


I haven't had the internet problem but I went a whole year once where I 
couldn't get remote debugging to work. I never did figure out why. Then it 
started to work again by itself. I never thought to check the stack file 
version. You could Save As with the latest LC version and see if that helps.


I always include both the internet library and TSNet when I need internet 
connections. Did you try using both?


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On September 23, 2020 6:40:58 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Hello,

i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
updates as my time allows.


In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select inclusions. 
I am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 9.5.1 on Mac OS 
10.14.6


1. I've added some code to call a url using
put URL "https:.." into tInfo

This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I tried 
also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.

Tried with tsNet and without.

Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.


2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" 
standalone" or using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not 
initiated, although i have set red breakpoints and even used the Breakpoint 
keyword in the script and selected RemoteDebugger to be included in 
Standalone Settings.


Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.


Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. Or 
does anyone have an idea what might cause this?


What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there 
is a property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.

But changing this or removing that property completely does not help either.


Regards,
Matthias



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Re: Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

2020-09-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Jacque,

thanks for your answer.

I tried 'Save As' already, but interestingly the value of the stackfileversion 
property  remains unchanged.

I've tried all variations. Including tsNet and Internet, only tsNet   and also 
just Internet after disabling  tsNet using
dispatch "revunloadlibrary" to stack tsnetliburl

Regarding the remote debugger... First i thought a protected substack (Zygodact 
register stack) would cause this. But even without the sub tack i do not get 
Remote Debugger working.



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Matthias Rebbe
Life Is Too Short For Boring Code

> Am 24.09.2020 um 18:12 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I haven't had the internet problem but I went a whole year once where I 
> couldn't get remote debugging to work. I never did figure out why. Then it 
> started to work again by itself. I never thought to check the stack file 
> version. You could Save As with the latest LC version and see if that helps.
> 
> I always include both the internet library and TSNet when I need internet 
> connections. Did you try using both?
> 
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On September 23, 2020 6:40:58 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
>> created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
>> updates as my time allows.
>> 
>> In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select inclusions. 
>> I am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 9.5.1 on Mac OS 
>> 10.14.6
>> 
>> 1. I've added some code to call a url using
>> put URL "https:.." into tInfo
>> 
>> This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
>> INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
>> In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I tried 
>> also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.
>> Tried with tsNet and without.
>> 
>> Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.
>> 
>> 
>> 2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" standalone" 
>> or using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not initiated, 
>> although i have set red breakpoints and even used the Breakpoint keyword in 
>> the script and selected RemoteDebugger to be included in Standalone Settings.
>> 
>> Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. Or 
>> does anyone have an idea what might cause this?
>> 
>> What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there 
>> is a property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.
>> But changing this or removing that property completely does not help either.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>> 
>> 
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Re: Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

2020-09-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I haven't had the internet problem but I went a whole year once where I 
couldn't get remote debugging to work. I never did figure out why. Then it 
started to work again by itself. I never thought to check the stack file 
version. You could Save As with the latest LC version and see if that helps.


I always include both the internet library and TSNet when I need internet 
connections. Did you try using both?


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On September 23, 2020 6:40:58 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Hello,

i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
updates as my time allows.


In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select inclusions. 
I am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 9.5.1 on Mac OS 
10.14.6


1. I've added some code to call a url using
put URL "https:.." into tInfo

This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I tried 
also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.

Tried with tsNet and without.

Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.


2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" 
standalone" or using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not 
initiated, although i have set red breakpoints and even used the Breakpoint 
keyword in the script and selected RemoteDebugger to be included in 
Standalone Settings.


Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.


Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. Or 
does anyone have an idea what might cause this?


What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there 
is a property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.

But changing this or removing that property completely does not help either.


Regards,
Matthias



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Some problems with an old stack that gets regular updates

2020-09-23 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Hello,

i have some problems with a stack which i update very often. The stack was 
created 4 or 5 years ago, maybe even some more years ago. The gets regular 
updates as my time allows.

In Standalone Settings i have set the option to manually select inclusions. I 
am working with LC 9.6.1, but tried also with 9.6.0 and 9.5.1 on Mac OS 10.14.6

1. I've added some code to call a url using  
put URL "https:.." into tInfo

This works in the IDE, but not in the standalone, although i have selected 
INTERNET and SSL&Encryption to be included in the standalone
In the standalone the URL is not fetched and tInfo always is empty. I tried 
also with http:// instead of https:// but also without success.
Tried with tsNet and without.

Trying this with a new stack works w/o problems.


2. Trying to use the remote debugger, regardless if  in a "real" standalone" or 
using the test button, does not work. The debugger is not initiated, although i 
have set red breakpoints and even used the Breakpoint keyword in the script and 
selected RemoteDebugger to be included in Standalone Settings.

Trying to use the Remote Debugger with a newer stack works w/o a problem.


Did anyone else ever ran into any of these problems with an older stack. Or 
does anyone have an idea what might cause this?

What i noticed is, that in the cRevGeneral Property Set of the stack there is a 
property stackfileversion with a value of 5.5.
But changing this or removing that property completely does not help either.


Regards,
Matthias



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