Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Might this be a reason to think about working tighter integration between
LC and some other text editor?  Then the TE can do what TE's do best, and
LC can worry less about adding TE features.  OR, what about taking one of
the OSS TE's and working on integrating them into LC, eventually removing
the SE as a separate codebase?

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode <
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>
> > On 11 May 2017, at 10:32 pm, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> > requesting such a feature?
>
> I have wanted something like this for a while. Xcode has it and I use it
> all the time. But I think "go to definition" creating a breadcrumb would
> also be handy. There’s lots of things that would be handy… complete project
> tree in the script editor for one.
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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> On 11 May 2017, at 10:32 pm, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?

I have wanted something like this for a while. Xcode has it and I use it all 
the time. But I think "go to definition" creating a breadcrumb would also be 
handy. There’s lots of things that would be handy… complete project tree in the 
script editor for one.

Cheers

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

J. Landman Gay wrote:
> Well, I don't usually jump only once. If I do, I just use the
> built-in trick I described. But what I usually need to do is follow
> script flow from one handler to the one that called it, to the one
> that called that, the back to the second one until I see another
> reference, then jump to that one, see what it does, then back to the
> first one, then on to another one.

Yes, quite different from the original problem statement, and more 
reflective of my own needs as well.


Right now I make liberal use of the "Lookup Definition" item in the 
context menu, but that only goes one way.


I once considered making a static analysis tool that would provide a 
list of handlers with specific line numbers for a flow of execution.


Not surprisingly, I also decided the time it would take to do that would 
exceed the time it would save me. :)


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Phil Davis via use-livecode]

Maybe show something like the executionContexts as a list in a palette, 
and be able to go back and forth to the referenced lines by clicking the 
lines?


Phil Davis


On 5/11/17 12:18 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 5/11/17 2:09 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?


That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


Yes, that's what I'm thinking of: what could be better than jumping back
and forth than not having to jump at all?



Well, I don't usually jump only once. If I do, I just use the built-in 
trick I described. But what I usually need to do is follow script flow 
from one handler to the one that called it, to the one that called 
that, the back to the second one until I see another reference, then 
jump to that one, see what it does, then back to the first one, then 
on to another one.


How many split windows would that take?



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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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On 5/11/17 2:09 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?


That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


Yes, that's what I'm thinking of: what could be better than jumping back
and forth than not having to jump at all?



Well, I don't usually jump only once. If I do, I just use the built-in 
trick I described. But what I usually need to do is follow script flow 
from one handler to the one that called it, to the one that called that, 
the back to the second one until I see another reference, then jump to 
that one, see what it does, then back to the first one, then on to 
another one.


How many split windows would that take?

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?


That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


Yes, that's what I'm thinking of: what could be better than jumping back 
and forth than not having to jump at all?


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Tiemo Hollmann wrote:


When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it.
Afterwords I have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep
in mind, at which handler I was coming from and click at it in the
list of handlers. Wouldn't it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward"
button, (like in a browser) to get back to the last visited line (not
like in a browser) or again forward, where I 've already been?


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?



That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for 
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Randy Hengst wrote:

> I’m a little late to this party, but I’ve thought it would be handy
> to have a “sort by most recent” button on the handler list… like in
> apple mail and desktop folders.

With all due respect to those who've worked on the SE, the last thing 
I'd want to see added to is more metadata and the complexity inherent in 
keeping it up to date.


This may be another reason this need is most commonly handled in other 
editors with a split view.


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

I’m a little late to this party, but I’ve thought it would be handy to have a 
“sort by most recent” button on the handler list… like in apple mail and 
desktop folders.


be well,
randy


> On May 11, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Richmond via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will, Thanks.
> 
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> 
> On 11.05.2017 20:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>> No. Try it. I use it all the time.
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 11, 2017 11:23:32 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
 limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to
 definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
 script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
 remains hilited so you can find it again easily.
 
 But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the
 list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much
 is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
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 On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
> Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
> forward,
> where I 've already been?
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richmond via use-livecode]

I will, Thanks.


Richmond.


On 11.05.2017 20:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

No. Try it. I use it all the time.
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On May 11, 2017 11:23:32 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?


On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose 
"go to

definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
remains hilited so you can find it again easily.

But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, 
the
list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that 
much

is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
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On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. 
Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, 
at which

handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a 
browser) to

get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo







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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

No. Try it. I use it all the time.
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On May 11, 2017 11:23:32 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?


On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to
definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
remains hilited so you can find it again easily.

But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the
list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much
is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
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On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on

handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo







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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[pink via use-livecode]

Have you looked into lcTaskList?

I often use it to give myself quick bookmarks/placeholders, so long as you
already know where you are going to want to be.

It is reasonably priced and tops my listed of recommended plugins.



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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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On 05/11/2017 07:51 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

GLX2 had a neat concept called breadcrumbs. Maybe someone could dig into the 
code and see what made breadcrumbs work, then incorporate it into the main 
script editor.

Bob S


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?


On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
> limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to
> definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
> script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
> remains hilited so you can find it again easily.
>
> But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the
> list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much
> is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>
>
>
> On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
>> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
>> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
>> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
>> Wouldn't
>> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
>> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
>> forward,
>> where I 've already been?
>>
>> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
>> requesting such a feature?
>>
>> Tiemo
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very 
limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to 
definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new 
script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list 
remains hilited so you can find it again easily.


But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the 
list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much 
is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.

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 wrote:



When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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GLX2 had a neat concept called breadcrumbs. Maybe someone could dig into the 
code and see what made breadcrumbs work, then incorporate it into the main 
script editor. 

Bob S


> On May 11, 2017, at 05:32 , Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
> where I 've already been?
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
> 
> Tiemo

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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Tiemo Hollmann wrote:

> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it.
> Afterwords I have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep
> in mind, at which handler I was coming from and click at it in the
> list of handlers. Wouldn't it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward"
> button, (like in a browser) to get back to the last visited line (not
> like in a browser) or again forward, where I 've already been?

Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split views?

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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Tiemo,
+1
Bill P

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> On May 11, 2017, at 6:16 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This would be a great enhancement. Coming from VB land I really miss the VB
> IDE right click "Last position" menu option in LC.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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> -Original Message-
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> Of Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
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> Subject: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script
> editor?
> 
> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
> where I 've already been?
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

This would be a great enhancement. Coming from VB land I really miss the VB
IDE right click "Last position" menu option in LC.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Subject: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script
editor?

When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo

 

 

 

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AW: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode]

Done: 19683
You can vote for it :)
Tiemo

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Betreff: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script
editor?

Tiemo,

This feature would be really really useful. Please feel free to file an
enhancement request.

Panos
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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on 
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. 
> Afterwords I have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep 
> in mind, at which handler I was coming from and click at it in the 
> list of handlers. Wouldn't it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" 
> button, (like in a browser) to get back to the last visited line (not 
> like in a browser) or again forward, where I 've already been?
>
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain 
> requesting such a feature?
>
> Tiemo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Tiemo,

This feature would be really really useful. Please feel free to file an
enhancement request.

Panos
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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
> where I 've already been?
>
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
>
> Tiemo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode]

When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo

 

 

 

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