Re: alumin(i)um

2022-09-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I mean first before Alunimium.

Bob S


On Sep 6, 2022, at 15:22 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

On 9/6/22 13:53, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

So the theoretical substance was dubbed Aluminum first

That's "alumium" first.

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Re: alumin(i)um

2022-09-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 9/6/22 13:53, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:


So the theoretical substance was dubbed Aluminum first


That's "alumium" first.

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Re: alumin(i)um

2022-09-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well, in Scots it's "alumeenium", which just sounds like a Scot suffered
from bad spelling.

On Tue, 6 Sept 2022, 23:54 Bob Sneidar via use-livecode, <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Excerpt from WordOrigins.org:
>
> In 1808, British chemist Humphry Davy postulated the existence of a
> metallic form of alumina ore, which he dubbed alumium.
>
> Davy later changed the name to aluminum. He writes in his 1812 Elements of
> Chemical Philosophy: "As yet Aluminum has not been obtained in a perfectly
> free state."
>
> Yet that same year, other British chemists settled on the name aluminium,
> the ending of which they thought was more consistent with the other
> elements.
>
> So the theoretical substance was dubbed Aluminum first, but other
> scientists decided to call it Aluminium, even though no one knew if it
> existed or could exist yet.
>
> Bob S
>
>
>
> > On Sep 6, 2022, at 13:38 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/6/22 13:19, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
> >
> >> or the way they spell "favourites", or pronounce "Aluminum". Do you see
> an
> >> extra "i" in there? No? It's invisible, that's why.
> >
> > Yeah. About that.
> > The "aluminium" version actually preceded "aluminum" by several years,
> so if anything the U.S. version is actually the weird one. There are very
> few other elements that veer from the standard "ium" suffix into just "um":
> molybdenum, lanthanum,, tantalum, platinum, and all of those are transition
> metals.
> >
> > https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/aluminum-vs-aluminium
> >
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> > ahsoftw...@gmail.com
>
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Re: alumin(i)um

2022-09-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Excerpt from WordOrigins.org: 

In 1808, British chemist Humphry Davy postulated the existence of a metallic 
form of alumina ore, which he dubbed alumium. 

Davy later changed the name to aluminum. He writes in his 1812 Elements of 
Chemical Philosophy: "As yet Aluminum has not been obtained in a perfectly free 
state."

Yet that same year, other British chemists settled on the name aluminium, the 
ending of which they thought was more consistent with the other elements. 

So the theoretical substance was dubbed Aluminum first, but other scientists 
decided to call it Aluminium, even though no one knew if it existed or could 
exist yet. 

Bob S



> On Sep 6, 2022, at 13:38 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 9/6/22 13:19, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> or the way they spell "favourites", or pronounce "Aluminum". Do you see an
>> extra "i" in there? No? It's invisible, that's why.
> 
> Yeah. About that.
> The "aluminium" version actually preceded "aluminum" by several years, so if 
> anything the U.S. version is actually the weird one. There are very few other 
> elements that veer from the standard "ium" suffix into just "um": molybdenum, 
> lanthanum,, tantalum, platinum, and all of those are transition metals.
> 
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/aluminum-vs-aluminium
> 
> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com


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alumin(i)um

2022-09-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 9/6/22 13:19, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote:


or the way they spell "favourites", or pronounce "Aluminum". Do you see an
extra "i" in there? No? It's invisible, that's why.


Yeah. About that.
The "aluminium" version actually preceded "aluminum" by several years, 
so if anything the U.S. version is actually the weird one. There are 
very few other elements that veer from the standard "ium" suffix into 
just "um": molybdenum, lanthanum,, tantalum, platinum, and all of those 
are transition metals.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/aluminum-vs-aluminium

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