Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Earlier today I commented to the improve-rev list: If there is any group who should understand it isn't ready until it's ready, it's software developers. Anyone in the mood to suggest other candidates? I've come up with two: * house painters

Re: GifBuilder iDraw, and real animation

2002-11-21 Thread Klaus Major
Hi all, again i hit the send button before thinking ;-) Hi Wolfgang and all, here is a great URL that will give you fantastic hints on how to use MOHO effectively. Here is the missing URL: http://www.gippsland.monash.edu.au/~myles/catnap/mohotips/index.html Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL

Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread James Richards
on 20 Nov 2002 11:33:23, Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is any group who should understand it isn't ready until it's ready, it's software developers. Anyone in the mood to suggest other candidates? I've come up with two: * house painters * chefs printers -- James J

Re: Digest Authentification

2002-11-21 Thread Dave Cragg
At 9:20 pm -0500 20/11/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I think I have just enough brain cells left to figure out 80% of the Digest Authentification in Revolution - - - I just need a little nudge over a few small potholes. A huge thanks to Yennie, who probably saved me 3 weeks of work trying to

Re: Six vs Half a Dozen

2002-11-21 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question: Is there any functional difference between (in a script): on processThis toThis doThis toThis end processThis [No doThis handler in the script] and on processThis toThis send doThisvalue(toThis) to me end processThis

Re: GifBuilder iDraw, and real animation

2002-11-21 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Donnerstag, November 21, 2002, at 10:20 Uhr, Klaus Major wrote: Hi Wolfgang and all, here is a great URL that will give you fantastic hints on how to use MOHO effectively. Here is the missing URL: http://www.gippsland.monash.edu.au/~myles/catnap/mohotips/index.html Thanks. These are

Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
If there is any group who should understand it isn't ready until it's ready, it's software developers. Anyone in the mood to suggest other candidates? I've come up with two: * house painters * chefs digesting..? regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy with trainingsmapsĀ© INTERNETTRAINER

Re: Valentina and OS-X (Darwin) revisited...

2002-11-21 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Mittwoch, November 20, 2002, at 06:36 Uhr, Scott Raney wrote: As an aside, and not that you need yet another thing to learn, but using vi for application development is strictly for lightweights IMHO. Real programmers use Emacs ;-) What is vi? regards Wolfgang M. Bereuter Learn easy

Re: DDE - Dynamic Data Exchange

2002-11-21 Thread Roger Kingston (OmniBus - Stanford)
Ken Ray wrote: Where is this old Externals Collection for Windows? I don't see it on runrev.com. OK is this it? http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/external.htm ? I found it in the list archives. Maybe it should be added to the runrev.com site? Roger Kingston wrote: Thanks Ken - I found it and

docs for writing external commands

2002-11-21 Thread Brad Allen
I couldn't find any info on this at runrev.com or within the built-in documentation. Where can I find out more about what it takes to write XCMDs that will work with a Rev standalone? Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MS Access db via ODBC on Mac?

2002-11-21 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Hello all, I am developing an application that makes a real estate magazine from text data in an MS Access database. The layout part is already working - I'm using AppleScript to communicate with Adobe InDesign. But the ODBC connection gives me a headache. I can connect RR to the database on a

ftp: how to prevent access to file currently being accessed?

2002-11-21 Thread Oliver Hardt
hello: i really have not much knowledge about how ftp works, so forgive the question in case it was just too obvious. problem: a file is kept on a ftp-server. this file is being accessed by n clients, and all clients will modify the file and upload it to the server. question: how can i

Re: Digest Authentification

2002-11-21 Thread RGould8
Ok, things are going well with the Digest Authorization - - - still haven't "cracked the response code", but I'm close. This is starting to get a bit off topic, but I am doing this in Revolution, so it's semi-topical. Can someone who's familiar with the Digest Authorization rfc tell me what the

Re: ftp: how to prevent access to file currently being accessed?

2002-11-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Get the filesize of the file Get the filesize of the same file 1 second later If both of them are the same then it is complete, otherwise chack the filesize again... This should work T. From: Oliver Hardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:18:49 -0700

RE: 31142 lines/cards/records

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Cozens
constant left = 1 constant mid = 2 constant right = 3 put leftValue into myArray_c left] put midValue into myArray_c[mid] put rightValue into myArray_c[right] get myArray_c[alignBy] -- assumes alignBy is left, mid, or right Sorry Doug: I let you astray here. In the above example alibnBy

Applescript or?

2002-11-21 Thread Bob Arnold
Help! Toast permits me to create a CD with an application that will automatically launch when booted (MacOS) but how can I get it to distinguish between the Classic and OSX app? Can an Applescript do this? If so, I could have the Applescript script run automatically, and launch either the classic

Re: Six vs Half a Dozen

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Cozens
Why send the message to me only to pass it elsewhere? Thanks for testing this, Richard. Example: ClickClock, a scripted animated gif that can be placed in any stack. The image sends a clickClockTime message. I don't know whether a developer is going to place the image as an individual

Re: Six vs Half a Dozen

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Cozens
The args to the command in the send string are evaluated in the context of the send. The command may be built-in. A send to me without time is probably the same as calling a handler directly. Cool Dar, Another case where I'm scripting to avoid a problem that doesn't exist. :{`) I don't

Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Cozens
do not try this on the MC list. Guess no one there has a sense of humor, eh Erik? -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne

Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Cozens
Anyone in the mood to suggest other candidates? I can up with three more groups overnight: * surgeons * parachute packers * bungee jump operators Thanks to everyone who responded, you gave me a light moment + a smile... and maybe imparted a little patience upon certain members of the

Re: Digest Authentication

2002-11-21 Thread Yennie
It's from the first line of the request... i.e. "GET" or "POST" (there are others, but these are the most common two). For example, your first line from your request headers may be something like: HTTP/1.1 GET /mypage.html HTH, Brian Can someone who's familiar with the Digest Authorization rfc

Re: MS Access db via ODBC on Mac?

2002-11-21 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 07:53 AM, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Hello all, I am developing an application that makes a real estate magazine from text data in an MS Access database. The layout part is already working - I'm using AppleScript to communicate with Adobe InDesign. But the ODBC

Re: Six vs Half a Dozen

2002-11-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:30 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: I've had problems using send someMessage in x seconds (no target)? Am I doing something wrong or does send...in require a target? Specify the target when using time. I use this in untargeted callbacks: send someMessage to me in

Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread miscdas
Rob Cozens writes: [snip] Anyone else want to play? -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm Isn't this whole thread a big waste of valuable bandwidth? miscdas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL

Re: Six vs Half a Dozen

2002-11-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:45 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Another case where I'm scripting to avoid a problem that doesn't exist. :{`) I went embarrassingly far down that bunny trail. I now put literal strings in constants and write simple sends. I now wonder... For single commands

Re: Six vs Half a Dozen

2002-11-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 10:13 AM, Dar Scott wrote: send someMessage to me in 0 seconds I forgot an important part that might apply. With this approach, there doesn't have to be a handler. Specifically there doesn't have to be a handler for clickClockTime if the developer wants

Re: ftp: how to prevent access to file currently being accessed?

2002-11-21 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Oliver Hardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello: i really have not much knowledge about how ftp works, so forgive the question in case it was just too obvious. problem: a file is kept on a ftp-server. this file is being accessed by n clients, and all clients will modify the file

Re: MS Access db via ODBC on Mac?

2002-11-21 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Donnerstag, November 21, 2002, at 06:13 Uhr, Alex Rice wrote: If it can't be done, could I connect to that Windows PC in any way? There is a LAN connection with that PC using PC-MAC LAN 8. That should give you access to the filesystem and printers on the Windows machine, and not much

Re: Valentina and OS-X (Darwin) revisited...

2002-11-21 Thread David Vaughan
On Thursday, Nov 21, 2002, at 22:10 Australia/Sydney, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: On Mittwoch, November 20, 2002, at 06:36 Uhr, Scott Raney wrote: Real programmers use Emacs ;-) What is vi? UNIX 1970s editor for full screen terminals, superseding ed, the line editor for teletypes and

Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread David Vaughan
On Friday, Nov 22, 2002, at 04:20 Australia/Sydney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Cozens writes: [snip] Anyone else want to play? -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm Isn't this whole thread a big waste of valuable bandwidth? No. 1. It was

Re: MS Access db via ODBC on Mac?

2002-11-21 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 11:39 AM, Wolfgang M. Bereuter wrote: Not sure if you all saw Gary Rathbone's post about Inter Application Communication, but check out his site: http://www.garyrathbone.net/repgen/ He was nice enough to email me an example stack (and give me permission

Re: ftp: how to prevent access to file currently being accessed?

2002-11-21 Thread Oliver Hardt
hello: thank you for this good idea -- i'll give this a try, since i have full control over the access. best, olli. 11/21/02, Jan Schenkel wrote: --- Oliver Hardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Oliver, If you control _all_ client access, you could create a file in the same directory on the

General Lists vs Special Lists

2002-11-21 Thread Rob Cozens
sn't this whole thread a big waste of valuable bandwidth? Anonymous quote from my college days: Generalist: A person who learns less and less about more and more, and ends up knowing nothing about everything. Specialist: A person who learns more and more about less and less, and ends up

Controls of Stack

2002-11-21 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi All Does everyone know that repeat with x=1 to the number of controls of stack y only enumerates the controls on the current card? Bit of a bugger..eh? How does one parse all the controls of a stack ensuring that those in a background only get parsed once unless they are fields with the

Re: Off Topic Group Quiz

2002-11-21 Thread erik hansen
Isn't this whole thread a big waste of valuable bandwidth? No. 1. It was entertaining, except to Erik i WAS entertained! = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Ā– Powerful. Affordable. Sign

Re: General Lists vs Special Lists

2002-11-21 Thread erik hansen
--- Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sn't this whole thread a big waste of valuable bandwidth? Special List: A list where people talk more and more about less and less, and end up saying everything about nothing. The MetaCard List? Erik's comment seems to imply it; ... but I don't

Video Editing

2002-11-21 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi All Are there any video editing externals? Monte Goulding B.App.Sc. (Hons.) Executive Director Sweat Technologies email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.sweattechnologies.com mobile (International): +61 421 138 274 (Australia): 0421 138 274

Re: internanl Icons with Standalone

2002-11-21 Thread Robert Presender
Hi Jan and Andre, Don't know if this is what you are looking for.. but anyway. I just open the stack revicons.rev of Revolution UI Stacks(in Application Overview) and found all kinds of icons including the ToolBar Icons, etc. There are five cards. Using 1.1.1 and OS 10.2.2. I took a

RE: internanl Icons with Standalone

2002-11-21 Thread Monte Goulding
One of the first questions I asked Kevin when I got rev was about the IDE icons and he said it's fine to use them. I doubt he would have changed his mind. I just opened the stack revIcons and imported them into a new image library for my use. If it were me and I was allowing people to use

Re: Can a mouseclick simultaneously send a message as it ends a repeat until the mouseclick loop?

2002-11-21 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am in a (repeat until the mouseclick) loop, is it possible to have the same mouseclick that ends the repeat also send a mouseUp event to another button? I have a repeating slide show that I'd like the user to be able to change simply by

RE: Controls of Stack

2002-11-21 Thread Monte Goulding
set the wholeMatches to true repeat with i = 1 to the number of controls put the long ID of control i into tLongID if (word 1 of tLongID is group) or \ (word 5 of tLongID is group) then if lineOffset(tLongID, tKnownGroupItems) 0 then next repeat else put

Re: Can a mouseclick simultaneously send a message as it ends arepeat until the mouseclick loop?

2002-11-21 Thread Mark Swindell
on 11/21/02 10:24 PM, Jan Schenkel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am in a (repeat until the mouseclick) loop, is it possible to have the same mouseclick that ends the repeat also send a mouseUp event to another button? I have a repeating slide