[OT] Bug tracking systems

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
I need to implement a bug-tracking system for a couple clients. Requirements include: - MySQL backend - simple interface (so Bugzilla's out of the running) - simple installation - should have the ability to merge reports (as for handling duplicates without losing info; another non-Bugzilla) -

Re: Setting 'it' in caller

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On May 16, 2005, at 9:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: How do I put a value into the instance of 'it' in the calling function? For example, suppose I want to create a custom command 'getCurrentRobotName' that returns an error in the result and the current name in 'it'. This is 'it' in the handler

Re: OT : PearPC

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On Apr 30, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote: My Panther license says this: 2.A This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one

Re: [OT] Bug tracking systems

2005-05-17 Thread Brian Yennie
Richard, I can't give much of a review for it, but I've had ZenTrack recommended to me in the past and used it very lightly. Apparently it is meant to be a little simpler than BugZilla- and I can attest to getting it up and running in an hour or so with MySQL. Like BugZilla it's not so pretty,

Re: [OT] Bug tracking systems

2005-05-17 Thread Monte Goulding
I need to implement a bug-tracking system for a couple clients. Requirements include: - MySQL backend - simple interface (so Bugzilla's out of the running) - simple installation - should have the ability to merge reports (as for handling duplicates without losing info; another non-Bugzilla) -

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 14 May 2005, at 2:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all the other things fields have to do to display text in addition to storing it. This topic has come up a few times lately, so I decided it was time

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread xbury . cs
Sarah, Did you try also with a hidden field? cheers Xavier On 17.05.2005 08:26:40 use-revolution-bounces wrote: On 14 May 2005, at 2:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Compared to a field nearly anything else will be faster because of the overhead associated with all the other things fields have

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sarah Reichelt wrote: Here are my test results: using a field740 ticks using a field (with locked screen)405 ticks using a field from sub stack230 ticks using a field from a sub stack locking the screen235 ticks The sub-stack's window was not open for these tests. Opening it made

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try also with a hidden field? In my earlier tests the times for a hidden field were not much different than for a visible one. Tuviah that the bigger difference is whether a field is on an open card or not, as even hidden fields on open cards are initialized

Re: why are custom properties so fast? RAM?

2005-05-17 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using a custom property 1.9 ticks using a custom property with messages locked 0.3 ticks This is almost 2500 times faster than the field method! so is the custom property in RAM and the field contents on the hard drive? [EMAIL

Re: why are custom properties so fast? RAM?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Erik Hansen wrote: --- Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using a custom property 1.9 ticks using a custom property with messages locked 0.3 ticks This is almost 2500 times faster than the field method! so is the custom property in RAM and the field contents on the hard drive? When a

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try also with a hidden field? I have now :-) For the same test, hiding the field first brought the time down to about 500 ticks i.e. not as fast as just locking the screen. When using the sub-stack, it made no difference. BTW, in case anyone actually tries the

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread xbury . cs
Maybe we should make a machine benchmark stack to test all the rev features across all platforms and cpu configurations... Another use for an sql engine maybe (although Im working on an alternative and this Sarah's benchmark may change lots of my plans - for the better of performance naturally.

Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One issue that seems evident now is that if we store styled text in a field and need to save that to a custom prop, there's 1) loss of data possible (the rev-html converter - or rather stripper), 2) the overhead of saving extra style tags... True. If you need to store

Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Re: why are custom properties so fast?

2005-05-17 Thread xbury . cs
On 17.05.2005 09:35:29 use-revolution-bounces wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One issue that seems evident now is that if we store styled text in a field and need to save that to a custom prop, there's 1) loss of data possible (the rev-html converter - or rather stripper), 2) the overhead of

Re: [OT] Bug tracking systems

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Gaskin wrote: I need to implement a bug-tracking system for a couple clients. Requirements include: - MySQL backend - simple interface (so Bugzilla's out of the running) - simple installation - should have the ability to merge reports (as for handling duplicates without losing info;

Anyone interested in runrev to palm pdb?

2005-05-17 Thread rev
Hi All. I'm developing a shareware app for some palm developers and can read and write to a palm pdb. Win only at the moment. Anyone interested in this? Cheers bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Anyone interested in runrev to palm pdb?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm developing a shareware app for some palm developers and can read and write to a palm pdb. Win only at the moment. Anyone interested in this? Many I'm sure, myself included, but I there's a stack floating around somewhere which includes a library that does this

Re: Anyone interested in runrev to palm pdb?

2005-05-17 Thread sims
Hi All. I'm developing a shareware app for some palm developers and can read and write to a palm pdb. Win only at the moment. Anyone interested in this? Yes! ciao, sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Anyone interested in runrev to palm pdb?

2005-05-17 Thread sims
At 2:42 AM -0700 5/17/05, Richard Gaskin wrote: Many I'm sure, myself included, but I there's a stack floating around somewhere which includes a library that does this already. Sorry, but I don't have the URL and can no longer find it at RunRev.com Anyone else know where to find this? try

Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Anyone interested in runrev to palm pdb?

2005-05-17 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Bob, Im quite intersted in the pdb format... It's currently at the very very bottom of the project pile (uh, stack) but any advance on it is welcome!!! cheers Xavier On 17.05.2005 11:30:54 use-revolution-bounces wrote: Hi All. I'm developing a shareware app for some palm developers and can

Re: Anyone interested in runrev to palm pdb?

2005-05-17 Thread rev
Quoting Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm developing a shareware app for some palm developers and can read and write to a palm pdb. Win only at the moment. Anyone interested in this? Many I'm sure, myself included, but I there's a stack floating around

Applescript DreamCard

2005-05-17 Thread Serge Sgu
Hello, Is the scriptability of DreamCard (like was HyperCard) planned in the next versions ? Regards Serge -- http://wirinum.free.fr ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Anyone interested in runrev to palm pdb?

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm developing a shareware app for some palm developers and can read and write to a palm pdb. Win only at the moment. Anyone interested in this? Many I'm sure, myself included, but I there's a stack

UI challenge: icon menu

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
While many developers have been doing this for years, the OS X HIG now officially sanctions using icon buttons as pull-down menus within a window -- you can see this in action with the Finder's Tools menu. I can live with the look of a rectangle button over the roundRect look normally used by

Re: UI challenge: icon menu

2005-05-17 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Richard, You might separate the menu from the button using an icon button and a popUp menu hidden button. At the end of the handler in the icon button which call the menu: put the bottomLeft of me into tLoc if the platform = MacOS then add 2 to item 2 of tLoc else subtract 2 from item

Hard Disk Serial Numbers String shuffler

2005-05-17 Thread Thomas McCarthy
This rev list is great. Very helpful. So I want to make a small contribution. Recently there were some threads about serial numbers – getting them from disks and generating them to protect your work. One mentioned taking a line and reversing it to help mask it. I recently made a code generator

Downloading Updates --the current stack?

2005-05-17 Thread Thomas McCarthy
Mark Wieder recently gave a great piece of advice, i.e. putting a text file on the web wit the latest version-- I've gone to town with that. put all my project's info on there--up to date email addresses, ip addresses, file locations...Thanks Mark. My two bits-- you don't have to keep the

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2005-05-17 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi everyone, If you had a couple of minuts, could some of you test the speed of this internet connexion function from different places around the world and tell me the results? Just email me off list (address below): I won't to pollute :-) I shall be grateful. on mouseUp put the

Re:

2005-05-17 Thread Klaus Major
Bonjour Eric, Hi everyone, If you had a couple of minuts, could some of you test the speed of this internet connexion function from different places around the world and tell me the results? Just email me off list (address below): I won't to pollute :-) I shall be grateful. on mouseUp put

RE:

2005-05-17 Thread MisterX
Salut Eric, i improved a little the script because i saw lots of variations in timings on mouseUp hilite me repeat 100 times put the milliseconds into tStart put InternetConnected() into temp put the milliseconds - tStart comma after tlist end repeat put average(tlist) ,

Re: Downloading Updates --the current stack?

2005-05-17 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 9:43 AM -0400 5/17/05, Thomas McCarthy wrote: Now my question. Can I download and replace the currently running stack? Like, 1. use libURLDownloadToFile to download the file to disk 2. go to the file (the same stack as is currently running) 3. save the new stack If it's not the main stack of

Text Alignment

2005-05-17 Thread Levi Kendall
Hello All, I'm trying to program an application in revolution which has some word processing type of features. One of these features is text alignment, meaning either left, center, or right aligned. What I want to do is set the textAlign of a selectedChunk rather than that of an entire

Re: Text Alignment

2005-05-17 Thread Peter T. Evensen
I know Kevin said adding paragraph-specific formatting is on their near-term todo list. Do we need to enter this as an enhancement request on bugzillla, or is it really that near term? At 09:43 AM 5/17/2005, you wrote: Hello All, I'm trying to program an application in revolution which has

Re: Proportional Scrollbar?

2005-05-17 Thread Malte Brill
Hi all, I´ve just uploaded a stack to revOnline: User: Malte Stack: propscroll Category: Programming The script needs to be cleared up a bit, but works... Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Use an another player that XAnim

2005-05-17 Thread Damien Girard
Hi All, I am using revolution under Linux, and about video and audio feature, this isn't very great for now. So, I have seen that there are the vcplayer command in runrev. So, I want to choose an another player that Xanim (who aren't supported anymore since 1999). But I didn't know a player who

NOTTOT: RE: Text Alignment

2005-05-17 Thread MisterX
[NOTTOT:not totally OT] X's prognostic for a Rev release[s]* to come: Paragraph independent alignment, font smoothing (along with graphic smoothing too) text patterns (or is that in already the OS or IDE?) Table-full cell coloring (doesn't still do) Will they have though of shading, wysywig

Re: WAY OT: Apple V Apple. Legal lunacy?

2005-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Reynolds
Alan, I wish you were here in the states to use! I agree on all your points, expect them of council, and wish my experiences followed these conditions better. I also agree that the reason these large deal contracts end up in lawsuits so much is from the business practice to always feel like

ANN: Rotate image about arbitrary point

2005-05-17 Thread Jim Hurley
Someone has surely done this, but if not, the stack below allows you to rotate an image about an arbitrary pivot point. Run this in the message box: go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/RotateImage.rev; (Do not click on this link.) Jim ___

RE: Use an another player that XAnim

2005-05-17 Thread MisterX
Damien, you can always use an invisible shell to play the wavs you need. i dont know much about linux but im sure it's possible, i've seen the tools out there on the net... Linux is not my speciliaty mind you but im convinced this exists. Alternatively since python runs on Linux, there's a way

RE: Rotate image about arbitrary point

2005-05-17 Thread MisterX
Jim, Clicking on the link works fine! Why not fix the MIMEs? mine in firefox is set to ask what to do... safest ever precaution... it's true it's smarter to paste the link into the message box, but then why not ask people to do so? cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: Downloading Updates --the current stack?

2005-05-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Jeanne- Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 7:36:53 AM, you wrote: JAED If it's not the main stack of the running application, you can JAED download the file, replacing the outdated file, then use the revert JAED command to load the new version from disk. I wouldn't have thought of this perverted use of the

Re: Use an another player that XAnim

2005-05-17 Thread Mark Talluto
On May 17, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Damien Girard wrote: Hi All, I am using revolution under Linux, and about video and audio feature, this isn't very great for now. So, I have seen that there are the vcplayer command in runrev. So, I want to choose an another player that Xanim (who aren't supported

Re: Downloading Updates --the current stack?

2005-05-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Thomas- Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 6:43:18 AM, you wrote: TM email addresses, ip addresses, file locations...Thanks Mark. My TM two bits-- you don't have to keep the version number in the first TM line, just do a lineoffset search for it (or any info you need) I didn't think of lineoffset. In my

Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
I need to dive into Unicode and it seems there are a number of limitations, among these the loss of chunk expressions when working with double-byte languages. Is that correct? The app I'm working on for that makes extensive use of chunk expressions -- am I back to the old-school-language

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Richard, The consensus was the 'some' chunks could work with useunicode but that a lot do not work. It was suggested to use htmltext with the unicode fields but I have not tried that yet. Others have and said they got it to work. HTH Tom On May 17, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I need

Re: WAY OT: Apple V Apple. Legal lunacy?

2005-05-17 Thread Alan Golub
Jeff -- I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences -- honestly, a lawyer who uses unnecessary language just because it might appear unprofessional to lose it should go back and take a basic legal writing class. In my practice, we toss out archaic legalese all the time -- if it's in Latin, or

Internet speed test (was.. without title :-)

2005-05-17 Thread Eric Chatonet
Thanks to all who replied to my internet speed test request. The results show that the average is about 250/300 milliseconds from Europa and North America, seems to be a bit longer from Japan :-) My aim was to know the internet connexion status of an user with reliability: that's necessary

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Thomas McGrath III wrote: Richard, The consensus was the 'some' chunks could work with useunicode but that a lot do not work. It was suggested to use htmltext with the unicode fields but I have not tried that yet. That's an interesting idea but I'm unclear on how it would work. If char 1 of

Re: WAY OT: Apple V Apple. Legal lunacy?

2005-05-17 Thread Chipp Walters
I learned some valuable lessons at my last job. 1) Businesspeople should draw up the terms of an agreement. Typically people try and get lawyers involved at first. This is wrong. When you hear someone say, I'll have my lawyer draw up a contract, you should respond, Let's first iron-out this deal

Re: Downloading Updates --the current stack?

2005-05-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/17/05 12:04 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jeanne- Tuesday, May 17, 2005, 7:36:53 AM, you wrote: JAED If it's not the main stack of the running application, you can JAED download the file, replacing the outdated file, then use the revert JAED command to load the new version from disk. I wouldn't have

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On May 17, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I need to dive into Unicode and it seems there are a number of limitations, among these the loss of chunk expressions when working with double-byte languages. Is that correct? The app I'm working on for that makes extensive use of chunk

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I need to dive into Unicode and it seems there are a number of limitations, among these the loss of chunk expressions when working with double-byte languages. Is that correct? The app I'm working on for that makes extensive

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On May 17, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Dar Scott wrote: You can convert to UTF8 and then work with the chunk expression for line and item and (maybe word). I forgot to say not char. In UTF8, all characters in the ASCII range including the chunking syntax characters have the high-bit zero. All other

Re: Internet speed test (was.. without title :-)

2005-05-17 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Hi Eric, I think your plan is a good one provided your web site is hosted on a very reliable server. You may have problems if your site is down but the person is connected. If the plugins require access to your web site then this is a vlid check, however if you are just checking for an

Re: Downloading Updates --the current stack?

2005-05-17 Thread Malte Brill
Could there be trouble with file permissions? E.g. If the stack is inside the bundle on OsX? Cheers, Malte JAED If it's not the main stack of the running application, you can JAED download the file, replacing the outdated file, then use the revert JAED command to load the new version from

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On May 17, 2005, at 3:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but how can UTF8 be used with two-byte systems like Chinese? I was under the impression those had to be UTF16. Unicode is universal in that characters from many languages, language families, special use domains are all

Re: Internet speed test (was.. without title :-)

2005-05-17 Thread Alex Tweedly
Sarah Reichelt wrote: Hi Eric, As regards speed, you are downloading a tiny file, but I wonder is it faster just to try opening a socket and not actually downloading anything? In my experience, all these methods are fast enough if the connection is OK, but you need to test the timeouts if there

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote: On May 17, 2005, at 3:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but how can UTF8 be used with two-byte systems like Chinese? I was under the impression those had to be UTF16. Unicode is universal in that characters from many languages, language families, special use

Re: WAY OT: Apple V Apple. Legal lunacy?

2005-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Reynolds
Chipp, Wise words, thanks. That is basically how I now have evolved into doing my own business. Get the agreement client or vendor hammered out first then, if necessary, the lawyer(s) tighten it up. Most of my bad experiences have been with the lawyers getting some terms from the client then

Re: WAY OT: Apple V Apple. Legal lunacy?

2005-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Reynolds
Alan, Whoops, thought i saw an european return address on you! That is really great to hear! I really wish this was going on all over! Even though this got off topic i think it is probably useful talk for the list with all of us doing all sorts of big and little deals with our software

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On May 17, 2005, at 4:58 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Have you by chance made a nifty tutorial on Unicode like the ultra-cool one you did about messages? That's a cool idea. I have not made one. I have been collecting some functions along the way so maybe something will happen. Someday. I have

Re: Unicode and chunk expressions

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On May 17, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The app I'm working on for that makes extensive use of chunk expressions -- am I back to the old-school-language methods of walking through every character to parse it? I had suggested UTF-8. Other folks have had success with htmlText.

Global variables lost in space

2005-05-17 Thread Mark Talluto
During the the online session Script Anatomy 101 and individual named Rory asked why his/her stack's global variables were not showing up in the MB. I just got bitten by the same thing and came to realize that if you create a new global variable and put a number into it, it will not now

Re: Global variables lost in space

2005-05-17 Thread Dar Scott
On May 17, 2005, at 5:49 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: I just got bitten by the same thing and came to realize that if you create a new global variable and put a number into it, it will not now up. This works for me: on mouseUp global a put 0+5 into a put [ a ] end mouseUp I even changed the

Re: why are custom properties so fast? RAM?

2005-05-17 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a stack is opened, the whole thing is in RAM, field properties and all. The difference is the overhead associated with each storage mechanism: While fields appear to us to be simple to work with, that's all smoke and mirrors -- under

ANN: PenTool v3

2005-05-17 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi developers, Download the stack: Pen Tool v3 from: http://geocities.com/capellan2000/penToolv3.zip _http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/penToolv3.zip_ This stack shows five buttons: a pen tool,two Selection Tools, and EXIT and Help buttons. (These nice icons are from the collection of

RE: Rotate image about arbitrary point

2005-05-17 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Jim Hurley wrote: Someone has surely done this, but if not, the stack below allows you to rotate an image about an arbitrary pivot point. It's the first time that i see an image rotating around an arbitrary point in a stack. But, did you noticed how the border of the image change while

Re: interesting Crash

2005-05-17 Thread Hershel Fisch
On 5/16/05 10:48 PM, Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, it did the trick. Thanks, Hershel On May 16, 2005, at 6:42 PM, Hershel Fisch wrote: I have a stack with flds, the fld script is On closeField go to stack abc End closeField Every time when I enter the fld it goes to