Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Ken Ray
Just passing along an interesting tidbit of information that I just ran into: If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit menu (you should leave the menu itself enabled, but individually

RE: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread MisterX
Hi Ken This seems more like an OS behavior than a Rev problem doesn't it? It sure should be made aware for those developping on PCs hoping to deploy on osx... While disabling a whole menu is easier, I always did the single menuitem check on mouseenter to see if it should or not be enabled...

RE: Documentation - Webnotes

2005-08-20 Thread MisterX
Hi Bob, I woudn't worry too much about webnotes for the moment. If anyone wants to add a comment on top of your webnotes, your webnotes will be replaced. I hope they get that situation under control next release. cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: Super-computer studies aerodynamics of the potato chip

2005-08-20 Thread Judy Perry
Hey Jim! Thanks for this. It'll be a neat, semi-OT thing for the kiddies to read this term in the general ed course Computer Impact on Society... (a real course). Judy On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Jim Hurley wrote: This from todays NYT: Once the exclusive territory of nuclear weapons designers and

RE: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Scott Kane
In a single-user application where Valentina is out of price range, you should check out altSQLite from Altuit Software: Lools very cool, but sadly I'm on a zero budget (I'm on a disability pension and trying to program my way off it). There was a ISAM library (by Chipp ???) that looked good

RE: OT: Super-computer studies aerodynamics of the potato chip

2005-08-20 Thread Scott Kane
...does that make them computer chips? ROFL! I spilt my morning coffee! Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 8/20/05 10:00 AM, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a single-user application where Valentina is out of price range, you should check out altSQLite from Altuit Software: Lools very cool, but sadly I'm on a zero budget (I'm on a disability pension and trying to program my way off

RE: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Scott Kane
If you going develop app which you will distribute in many copies to clients, then you must pay for mySQL. A lots of people think that mySQL is free. This is not true in a lots of cases. Read this: Ouch! I didn't realize that! I wonder how many ISP's (or web hosts rather) realize or

RE: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Scott Kane
option now. If I could just find that ISAM library (open source) for Rev I'd be set. OK. Found it. Serendipidy. I'm not sure about it at all yet. It seems a rather bitsy. I think I'll look at saving stacks containing cards to an external file instead. Thanks for your help people. Scott

Re: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 8/20/05 10:26 AM, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you going develop app which you will distribute in many copies to clients, then you must pay for mySQL. A lots of people think that mySQL is free. This is not true in a lots of cases. Read this: Ouch! I didn't realize that! I

Re: revXMLNodeContents

2005-08-20 Thread Martin BLACKMAN
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 8/19/05 7:37 PM, Martin BLACKMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone comment on whether the behaviour of the first example below is correct ? I would have thought that both outputs should be the same

Re: revXMLNodeContents

2005-08-20 Thread Martin BLACKMAN
Bug 3072 now assigned to this. regards Martin Blackman On 20/08/05, Martin BLACKMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 8/19/05 7:37 PM, Martin BLACKMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone comment on whether

Re: [ANN] Animated gif for OSX progress

2005-08-20 Thread FlexibleLearning
Thanks, Hugh. Curious...why didn't you post this on SSBK onlne? Heh Dan It has now been posted to The Scripter's Scrapbook Online, with an Entry as below including the download link. Remember you can always store a copy the file in your own ssBk Entry, then restore as many copies as

Re: ODBC File Maker Pro 7 followup

2005-08-20 Thread Daniel Wenger
I have not received any comment on my query regarding ODBC and FileMaker Pro 7. I have seen some comment on the web indicating that others have had problems with it. Peter Reid gave up and is using AppleScript and that is what I have done for the time being. If anyone does have success

MacOS filetype question and or tip

2005-08-20 Thread MisterX
I think someone earlier was saying we couldn't change filetypes on the mac... The revdocs say this for filetype in the comments The fileType property is used to set the file type and creator of files created by the open file command and of files created putting data into a file, binfile, or

Re: How would a game loop work?

2005-08-20 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Aug 18, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Ian Leigh wrote: What strikes me about rev is that it's harder to manage a flow of things from a main loop. For example, a game might have a particular loop for overall control which steps through all the required stages and then draws a new frame, starting

Re: Blowing in the Wind

2005-08-20 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Aug 19, 2005, at 12:59 PM, Todd Higgins wrote: Does anyone know how that would compare to a similar animation in Flash? As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. My experience with Flash movies in general is

Re: I give up: how do you continue a line in Rev?

2005-08-20 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Aug 19, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Dennis Brown wrote: The way I want to search for information when I don't know what something is called or even if it exists, is narrowing by categories. I would want a list of 10-20 broad categories. And for each broad category, a new list of categories would

Re: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Kane wrote: I think I'll look at saving stacks containing cards to an external file instead. For very small data sets it's hard to beat the convenience of using cards. But for anything above a few thousand records it can be cumbersome. As with HyperCard, the inventor of this engine

Re: Sends getting lost

2005-08-20 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Aug 19, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Jon wrote: I'm writing a program that uses send mouseup to me in 10 seconds. Instead of sending mouseUp, put your code into a custom handler. Call that handler from your mouseUp, and send that handler to whatever object it is in in 10 seconds. By doing it

[FR] [EN] Some peculiarites of the DreamCard Player... Quelques bizzareries du Player de DreamCard

2005-08-20 Thread Dom
Particularités du Player DreamCard : Dans le même dossier que Revolution Fonctionne normalement Mais on se paye revOnline ;-) En dehors du dossier de Revolution Pas de revOnline Mais ne répond pas à Ask Answer

Re: I give up: how do you continue a line in Rev?

2005-08-20 Thread Dennis Brown
Geoff, The problem with Topics is that it is just a table of contents with chapter and topic listings. It only has one general category and then the specific topic. This is not what I was talking about. It is neither general enough nor specific enough. It is also very slow! I would

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread James Spencer
On Aug 20, 2005, at 1:16 AM, MisterX wrote: Hi Ken This seems more like an OS behavior than a Rev problem doesn't it? It sure should be made aware for those developping on PCs hoping to deploy on osx... ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: time anomaly

2005-08-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Jeanne- Friday, August 19, 2005, 7:28:40 PM, you wrote: Actually, it's not indeterminate. When you provide a number or other partial date or time, convert guesses what part you mean and fills in the rest with the current time. (For example, if you convert a time to long data and long time,

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/20/05 11:31 AM, James Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, this may just be a bug (I'll log it as such), but until it's fixed or documented, you should disable the individual items in the menu and not the menu itself. Ken, have you logged this yet so I can go vote for it. Yes, it's

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
James Spencer wrote: MisterX is incorrect, this is not OS behavior. The placement of the preferences item at the end of the Edit menu and then moving it on OS X is pure Rev. I think it's a matter of semantics: It's a Rev issue only because OS X doesn't need to support other operating

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Ken- Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote: If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit menu (you should leave the menu itself enabled, but individually disable the items you

Re: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Dan Shafer
A minor (and probably unimportant in the contex) clarification: MySQL charges for distribution of the *server*. If you provide an app as, e.g., an ASP that runs on a MySQL server on a hosting service where the end user is only *using* that database and never installing the server, usage is

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/20/05 11:47 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken- Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote: If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit menu (you should leave the

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richard Gaskin wrote: James Spencer wrote: MisterX is incorrect, this is not OS behavior. The placement of the preferences item at the end of the Edit menu and then moving it on OS X is pure Rev. I think it's a matter of semantics: It's a Rev issue only because OS X doesn't need to

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: On 8/20/05 11:47 AM, Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken- Friday, August 19, 2005, 11:04:04 PM, you wrote: If your application has an 'Edit' menu AND it has a 'Preferences' menu item AND you deploy to Mac OS X, then you should never disable the entire Edit menu (you

Re: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Stephen Barncard
If your product is on the net anyway... Create as many MySQL databases you need from a full service web host such as Dreamhost for $10/month. No maintenance, no fees, dead simple management. On 8/20/05 10:26 AM, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you going develop app which you will

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Ken Ray
On 8/20/05 12:04 PM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, regardless of whether there are other apps that disable an entire menu (thanks, Richard, for the HIG post, btw), the fact is that Rev allows you to do it, and the results are inconsistent under OS X for the Edit menu (and

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Ken- Saturday, August 20, 2005, 9:55:24 AM, you wrote: Well, regardless of whether there are other apps that disable an entire menu (thanks, Richard, for the HIG post, btw), the fact is that Rev allows you to do it, and the results are inconsistent under OS X for the Edit menu (and probably

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Saturday, August 20, 2005, 10:02:13 AM, you wrote: On Windows, the HIG sez: If all items in a menu are disabled, disable its menu title. If you disable a menu item or its title, the user can still browse to it or choose it. I just checked, and WinWord doesn't disable

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: But if you disable the entire menu, what happens to your Preferences item on Win? It disables along with the rest of the menu Although the Win HIG says that when all of a menu's items are unavailable to go ahead and disable the entire menu, in the case of the Edit menu that's

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Ken Ray
For myself, I usually split it down the middle with an Options item under the Edit menu, set by script on startup to Preferences if it opens on a Mac. I've mad many an email about a wide range of UI nuances but never one on my prefs nomenclature, so unless it becomes a problem I'm sticking

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote: For myself, I usually split it down the middle with an Options item under the Edit menu, set by script on startup to Preferences if it opens on a Mac. I've mad many an email about a wide range of UI nuances but never one on my prefs nomenclature, so unless it becomes a problem

Re: libURLftpUpload returns invalid host address error

2005-08-20 Thread David Beck
Sorry for the ambiguity. For this particular customer, the attempt to upload the file with libURLftpUpload fails 100% of the time with libURLErrorData returning the invalid host address error. However, strangely she did say that it was worked for her a few times before it started failing 100% of

Re: Bad Idea To Disable an 'Edit' Menu

2005-08-20 Thread James Spencer
On Aug 20, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Ken Ray wrote: Well, actually it's not as common to do that in Windows apps as in Mac - they usually don't have Preferences under the Edit menu; they have Options under the Tools menu, or if it does have Preferences, it's not under the

Re: libURLftpUpload returns invalid host address error

2005-08-20 Thread Alex Tweedly
David Beck wrote: Sorry for the ambiguity. For this particular customer, the attempt to upload the file with libURLftpUpload fails 100% of the time with libURLErrorData returning the invalid host address error. However, strangely she did say that it was worked for her a few times before it

RE: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Scott Kane
If your product is on the net anyway... Create as many MySQL databases you need from a full service web host such as Dreamhost for $10/month. No maintenance, no fees, dead simple management. Thanks for the reply, but it's a desktop application. I need an ISAM methodology to pull it off

RE: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Scott Kane
Hi Don, A minor (and probably unimportant in the contex) clarification: MySQL charges for distribution of the *server*. If you provide an app as, e.g., an ASP that runs on a MySQL server on a hosting service where the end user is only *using* that database and never installing

Re: ISAM

2005-08-20 Thread Dan Shafer
As far as I know, it's living software. You can download it from what I think is its new home at: http://wecode.org/serendipity/ At least I just did so successfully. (The site was pretty slow tonight but I think it varies a lot.) (Also note that i haven't actually tried to use this stuff.

Re: Sends getting lost

2005-08-20 Thread Erik Hansen
--- Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of sending mouseUp, put your code into a custom handler. Call that handler from your mouseUp, and send that handler to whatever object it is in in 10 seconds. elsewhere, it's all ready for you, rather than tied into a button. like this?

Re: Blowing in the Wind

2005-08-20 Thread Judy Perry
Is it just Flash in general or Macromedia products (specifically, Director) in particular? I've noticed this as well... Judy On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Geoff Canyon wrote: As people have said, Flash can't have shaped windows in the first place, so this animation is out of consideration. My