Re: libUrlFtpUploadFile - reuse open sockets?

2009-04-15 Thread Bernard Devlin
My initial thought on seeing Phil's posting was that it might be a server setting and thus not something one can control at the client. I thought this because a couple of weeks ago I stumbled upon a discussion where SSH (for some user) was creating a new connection for each command sent to the

RE: libUrlFtpUploadFile - reuse open sockets?

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Bufalini
Hi Sarah, Rather than gambling and waiting for a timeout to occur and, assuming there aren't any other sockets open for other purposes, couldn't Phil just issue a resetAll in his uploadEnded command? This forces the close of all sockets and a reset of everything in liburl. Otherwise, a close of

AW: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-15 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
I still can't get my app to run for everyone. I put my folder with my apps into the general application folder. By default my folder had only read permission for everyone, so I changed the permissions to read and write and inherited it to all apps in my folder. Now, when I log on with a standard

AW: How do Rev internet libraries work?

2009-04-15 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Bernard, thank you for your explanations, I have never thought about setting a proxy in my app. In addition I now found in the docs, that on windows systems the proxy is read from the registry by default. So at my trouble customer either the informations in the registry are not correct, or I am

Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Yup, it's Richmond, 2-3 years behind the times :) Well, to be honest, I've never really had the need of custom properties before. Reading the EXCELLENT RevolutionUsersGuide.pdf (and, by EXCELLENT, I mean far better in many respects than the online Documentation) I find that whether a property

Re: Datagrid question

2009-04-15 Thread LunchnMeets
In a message dated 4/14/09 4:28:50 PM, li...@mangomultimedia.com writes: OK I downloaded the newest Mac version of Studio and I'm excited  about the new datagrid feature. I can see many places to use them, but I can't  figure out how to address the contents or load a grid. Up

RE: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Bufalini
Hi Richmond, Yup, it's Richmond, 2-3 years behind the times :) Well, to be honest, I've never really had the need of custom properties before. Reading the EXCELLENT RevolutionUsersGuide.pdf (and, by EXCELLENT, I mean far better in many respects than the online Documentation) I find that

Did you know that ....... ?

2009-04-15 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, When I upgraded to Rev 3.0, I was happy for so many reasons. But there were things inside the script editor I found very painful, even though there were MANY improvements. The thing that peeved me most was that the script text lines never lined up. I spent valuable minutes ('cos

Initializing local properties

2009-04-15 Thread David Bovill
AFAIK - there is no easy or robust way to initialise local variables? That is you can't do something like: local thisWorks = some long complicated result local thisDoesnt = getComplicatedResult() function getComplicatedResult return some long complicated result end getComplicatedResult

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread David Bovill
2009/4/15 Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com Because they are not inherited, you are able to set them all independently to different values, even though they all have the same names and keys. If you want them inherited you need to define a getprop handler. getprop porkNbeans -- return

Re: Did you know that ....... ?

2009-04-15 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Hi Francis, I just loved this story. And one of the extra special things I love most about this list is that I very rarely see the term RTM or RTFM. So I hope we do see a blog or wiki with that title. Regards, Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite -

RE: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Bufalini
Hi David, While very useful message handlers, I don't believe that this qualifies as object inheritance. And I don't know that someone just starting to get their arms around custom properties should attempt to mess with them. ;-) For example, your setProp example doesn't have a pass statement,

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Wieder
David- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 4:58:58 AM, you wrote: If you want them inherited you need to define a getprop handler. Thanks. In all the time I've played with getprop/setprop handlers it never occurred to me that this would implement inheritance. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread David Bovill
You'd have to set and retrieve the data yourself - I just put in commented out pseudo code. So: getprop porkNbeans return the uData [porkNbeans] of me to someValue end porkNbeans setprop porkNbeans someValue set the uData [porkNbeans] of me end porkNbeans That give you effective

Re: Initializing local properties

2009-04-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: AFAIK - there is no easy or robust way to initialise local variables? That is you can't do something like: local thisWorks = some long complicated result local thisDoesnt = getComplicatedResult() function getComplicatedResult return some long complicated result end

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 2:22:47 AM, you wrote: Is it possible to set up custom properties so that they can be inherited? In addition to David Bovill's suggestion about using getprop and setprop handlers at a deeper level, I filed bz #3295 a bit over three years ago suggesting the

Re: Initializing local properties

2009-04-15 Thread David Bovill
2009/4/15 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com There's a request for this in the RQCC: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1241 Voted for - would be great if others could! Why are globals so unloved? Most programming languages support them so they can be accessed

Re: Initializing local properties

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 8:14:27 AM, you wrote: David Bovill wrote: AFAIK - there is no easy or robust way to initialise local variables? There's a request for this in the RQCC: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1241 However, notice in bz #1241 (filed in

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread David Bovill
Yes - Mark I filed a similar enhancement request - but prefer the use of lock messages to achieve the same effect. It was turned down - mainly I think because until they started to look at behaviors and actually create some nested groups they didn't see the relevance. 2009/4/15 Mark Wieder

Re: Initializing local properties

2009-04-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: 2009/4/15 Richard Gaskin wrote: Why are globals so unloved? Most programming languages support them so they can be accessed globally. If you need global access, why not use a global? True - some of my allergy to them is not rational :) In this case I'm trying to speed

[Fwd: Re: data grid code (color)]

2009-04-15 Thread Sadhu Nadesan
Resend - it appears this post never made it to the list? trying again ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Did you know that ....... ?

2009-04-15 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.frwrote: There are probably dozens of bells and whistles hidden away in all the corners of Revolution, that we may never find. Unfortunately for some, not only are they hidden but Rev wont play door bells or ringtone

Data Grids - Column view help

2009-04-15 Thread Ian McKnight
Hi I have been experimenting with 3.5's Data Grids and have run into a problem. I have 250 records, containing 7 fields. Six of the fields contain text, numeric or alpha-numeric data, the seventh contains an image file. I have these stored in an array called titleArray. titleArray has numeric

Re: Data Grids - Column view help

2009-04-15 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Ian McKnight wrote: ... Is this the correct way to create a table view of data held in an array? Is the first method I tried specifically for tab delimited lists? Hi Ian, When you set the dgData of a data grid table, the data grid will look for a column name

Re: Did you know that ....... ?

2009-04-15 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 15, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Paris, When I upgraded to Rev 3.0, I was happy for so many reasons. But there were things inside the script editor I found very painful, even though there were MANY improvements. The thing that peeved me most was that the

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Dick Kriesel
On 4/15/09 4:58 AM, David Bovill david.bov...@gmail.com wrote: If you want them inherited you need to define a getprop handler. You can inherit any custom property even without getprop handlers, by walking through the object's long id until you find a value. Here's a function that does that

Re: [Fwd: Re: data grid code (color)]

2009-04-15 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Sadhu Nadesan wrote: Resend - it appears this post never made it to the list? trying again Perhaps there was an issue because your original email had HTML? Your help is requested once more .. I'm stuck. I've been trying to find a way to apply color to a

Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Devin Asay
Hi folks, I just want to put in a good word, an unsolicited plug for what I think is the most underrated new feature in Rev 3.5--the ability to add User Notes to the Rev Dictionary. I've been playing trying this out since the beta version came out, and I really love the potential. So far

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richmond Mathewson wrote: I find that whether a property is inherited or not depends on mysterious decisions taken 'on high', err, well, Edinburgh; or, decisions taken along time ago by the oft-reviled Scott Rossi in MetaCard days. Just for the record, Scott Rossi is beloved and adored by

Re: Initializing local properties

2009-04-15 Thread David Bovill
2009/4/15 Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com While we wait for the ability to initialize vars from a function call, a single Init handler in a behavior script may do the trick for now. If you used a script-local var as a flag to see if it's been initialized, you could ensure it's

Re: AW: OT: How to make an app accessible for all users on Mac?

2009-04-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I still can't get my app to run for everyone. I put my folder with my apps into the general application folder. Try setting the owner to system. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: Data Grids - Column view help

2009-04-15 Thread Ian McKnight
Hi Trevor Thanks for the reply. I'll take a closer look at my column names/key names and look for discrepancies. And thanks for the information on the sort command I'll play around with that too. BTW I can't sign off without commenting on the quality and extent of the documentation you have

Re: Serialising arrays

2009-04-15 Thread Steve Checkley
Hi Mark, Writing it out to a binfile did the trick. Thanks! I wonder why would anybody use an open, write and close process rather than put URL? Thanks, Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson
J. Landman Gay wrote: Just for the record, Scott Rossi is beloved and adored by all. Scott Raney, on the other hand, got mixed reviews. ;) I'm sorry! speaking as a Scot with one 't', I find Scotts with two 't's (who aren't even Scots) a bit confusing; and when there are 'r's involved I always

Re: Serialising arrays

2009-04-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Steve Checkley wrote: Hi Mark, Writing it out to a binfile did the trick. Thanks! I wonder why would anybody use an open, write and close process rather than put URL? Those commands are good when you need to keep a file open and read it in sections, or append data to it, or search it, or

RE: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Bufalini
Dear Dick and David, I don't want to be a stickler here and keep this going on forever, ;-) but I believe the correct answer to Are *custom* properties inherited? Has to be no. While it is 100% true that handlers like setProp can be used by the application programmer to review, copy, alter and

Re: Inheritance and Custom Properties

2009-04-15 Thread Dick Kriesel
On 4/15/09 2:28 PM, Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com wrote: Hence, custom properties are not inherited in the traditional sense. ;-) Agreed. Even with the technique I offered, the effective inheritance is based only on Rev's owner hierarchy, rather than on anyone's class hierarchy. But Rev

Using two different versions of Revolution on one computer.

2009-04-15 Thread Ted
Hello: I've just downloaded the Full Revolution Enterprise 3.5 .dmg file (OS X) to my desktop. While trying out Rev 3.5, I would also like to continue using my current version (2.8.1) for a while. Is there anything I need to know before I click the new Rev 3.5? Will it attempt to take control

Re: Using two different versions of Revolution on one computer.

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Ted- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 4:01:04 PM, you wrote: Is there anything I need to know before I click the new Rev 3.5? Yep. There's a new revOnline. You'll need to register for a new login id and password - your existing one won't work. But that's it. If you're moving up from 2.8.1 then

Re: Using two different versions of Revolution on one computer.

2009-04-15 Thread Terry Judd
Ted - there shouldn't be any real problem maintaining and running two or more versions of Rev on the one computer. I often have three or more versions installed and in use. If you look under the help menu you should see an item named 'Manage versions...'. Selecting this will open a dialog that

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Devin- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:23:52 AM, you wrote: account. The notes are mediated for quality by RunRev so it takes a day or two for them to show up. They have also said they don't want ...and that's the downside. It's kind of like the Microsoft approach to the world: the theory is

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread DunbarX
I also submitted several notes, and do not see them posted. Craig Newman In a message dated 4/15/09 7:10:00 PM, mwie...@ahsoftware.net writes: ...and that's the downside. It's kind of like the Microsoft approach to the world: the theory is great but the implementation sucks. My notes have

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Devin Asay
On Apr 15, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Devin- Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 10:23:52 AM, you wrote: account. The notes are mediated for quality by RunRev so it takes a day or two for them to show up. They have also said they don't want ...and that's the downside. It's kind of like

Re: Rev 3.5 Dictionary--User contributed notes!

2009-04-15 Thread Jim Sims
On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Devin Asay wrote: communication issue that needs to be fixed if RunRev want this feature to succeed. We ought to try to work out the bumps before we dismiss it for its flaws. It's a new service, and is bound to have some rough spots, but I'm sure we can work