Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread René Micout
Le 17 nov. 09 à 21:22, Alejandro Tejada a écrit : This training should be offered in teacher's native language. Although, revTalk should be keep as an English-like programming language, without trying to translate commands, functions, handlers, messages and tokens to another languages.

Re: Rev Studio 4.0

2009-11-19 Thread René Micout
Le 17 nov. 09 à 21:43, Mikey a écrit : In the RR folder for the 4.0 version there are the following files: Engine Change Log IDE Change Log and Read_Me_First Than you very much, Usually we are too inclined to ignore these small text files... Bons souvenirs de Paris René

MacUpdate VersionTracker

2009-11-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson
MacUpdate had RevMedia today: edition number and price (free) exactly right. VersionTracker (Mac) had 'Revolution 4' described as an update, and further details yields a price of $249. For some funny reason nothing shows up in VersionTracker (Windows). Getting there; although that $249 is

Re: Multitouch

2009-11-19 Thread René Micout
Le 18 nov. 09 à 18:51, Robert Man a écrit : I personnaly do not think it is so important for apps, Hello ! That depends on what applications they are. For my part, I create music applications (for my own use) and my goal is to control actions on a touch screen (for now I use a pen) ... A

Re: Multitouch

2009-11-19 Thread René Micout
Hello Richard, I added 5 votes... Bons souvenirs de Paris René Le 18 nov. 09 à 19:50, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Jim Bufalini wrote: I submitted a proposal for it to the improve-list a couple weeks ago. Number of replies: 0. I just searched my email client for the word multitouch on the

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Dom
René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: I started with HyperCard in 1987 and gradually I made progress, it took time because it's not my job (and I have neither received any training in computers or programming), but satisfaction is so great when you reach the goal you had set

Is it possible to choose cards at random

2009-11-19 Thread William de Smet
Hi there, I got a stack with 10 cards and want to dynamically change the order of the cards. Is it possible to choose 'on mouseup' a card at random? greetings, William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: Is it possible to choose cards at random

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hoi William, go any cd go any cd of this stack put the id of any cd of this stack into x etc. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Download Strõm Flow Chart

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Jim Bufalini
Dear Alejandro, It seems to me that your are trying to lead horses to water, who are neither thirsty nor want to drink. ;-) But you raise an interesting point. We talk about the world embracing revTalk and revlets because the language is so easy. And, indeed it is. But, when I think back to when

get the color of this card at x,y

2009-11-19 Thread Generic Email
I am looking for a function that does something like this: get the color of this card at x,y and I would expect it to contain r,g,b I have searched through the Revolution Dictionary, and the best I can find is mouseColor. This has the undesirable effect of having to move the mouse to the point

Re: get the color of this card at x,y

2009-11-19 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Thu Nov 19, Generic Email generic.email.30022 at gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a function that does something like this: get the color of this card at x,y and I would expect it to contain r,g,b I have searched through the Revolution Dictionary, and the best I can find is mouseColor.

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread René Micout
Hello ! I read that the implementation of SheepSaver was tricky... What about that ? René Bonjour, J'ai lu que la mise en œuvre de SheepSaver était délicate... Qu'en est-il exactement ? René Le 19 nov. 09 à 14:04, Dom a écrit : I installed at least SheepShaver*

Re: get the color of this card at x,y

2009-11-19 Thread Bill Marriott
That code didn't work for me ... Probably need something more like, lock screen put the screenmouseLoc into coord set the screenmouseLoc to 350,350 put the mousecolor set the screenmouseLoc to coord unlock screen Alternately, one can export snapshot consisting of a single pixel and parse its

Re: get the color of this card at x,y

2009-11-19 Thread Generic Email
Bill, thank you! Your idea worked well. I wrapped it into a function so it looked better for me, and put my example stack here: http://dl.shuler.org/dl.php?i=m510yb9zxq Thanks so much for the push in the right direction. ___ use-revolution mailing

[Fr][En]Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Dom
René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: Hello ! I read that the implementation of SheepSaver was tricky... What about that ? René Bonjour, J'ai lu que la mise en œuvre de SheepSaver était délicate... Qu'en est-il exactement ? bon je mets la balise bilingue you may encounter

Running Mac OS 9 without a PPC processor

2009-11-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Sheep Shaver left me feeling I had had a trip through the dipping trough followed by a session with the emasculators . . . :) While singing an octave higher: I have had recourse several times to this: http://www.kju-app.org/ with perfectly satisfactory results; both with Mac OS 9 and Windows

Mac ODBC connection to MSSQL on Windows Server

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Stuart
Hi all, A colleague of mine wants to build a revWeb internet application that accesses data from a MSSQL Server on a Windows server. He wants to deploy this application as a cross platform application. How would he go about that, as the application has the revOpenDatabase(odbc...) in the scripts?

Re:PDF version of dictionary?

2009-11-19 Thread bar...@libero.it
Once again I thank you dearly Jacque. I have also pinned your bit about not bothering up over my desk. Gratefully Barry ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: [ANN] Data Tree 0.9.9 RC beta

2009-11-19 Thread Ken Ray
Just a quick post to let everybody know that I've just uploaded a new beta of my tree library to my site. There's a blog post on my site that goes into detail about what's new or been fixed but in short, the big news is that this version adds support for tabbing to and from a tree.

Re: Biting the Apple

2009-11-19 Thread Michael Kann
Bill, here's another way to get a lot of free advertizing -- send some info to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/ about the new plug-in. It works well in Firefox. The birthday cake revlet is mesmerizing. ___ use-revolution mailing list

knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread Peter Brigham MD
I have a stack system that is being used on laptops (at this point Mac OSX only). One of my beta testers uses it in three different locations. Among many other things, the stack prints out notes and various other text files from within Rev (running in IDE on RevMedia 4.0 -- eventually I'll

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread BNig
Peter, tell application Printer Setup Utility set Current_Printer to name of current printer -- set a variable for the name of your current/default printer end tell this applescript tells me the currently selected printer on MacOSX 10.5.8 regards Bernd Peter Brigham MD wrote: I

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, I think Jim has it all sown up. From: Jim Bufalini j...@visitrieve.com So, I think you need focus on the lay of the land first. I went through many languages from 1401 Autocoder, through Fortran, through Cobol, through 360 Assembler, and then through PL/1. I was young and

Errant stack file

2009-11-19 Thread DunbarX
I have a stack where I do all my testing. This stack is purged from memory when it is closed, though this may not be pertinent. When I open this stack in a new session of Rev from the finder (v.4) I get a dialog that the stack revMacCursors is already in memory, and that this might cause

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread stephen barncard
If one has ever had to work with punched cards (and I have not) genuinely deserves the title hard core. That stuff was so boring in the 60s that it drove me away from the field. How did anything get done? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread BNig
Peter, I was a little too fast with my reply, I am afraid this gives me all the information of the current printer unfortunately it does return idle even if the current printer is off. tell application Printer Setup Utility set Current_Printer to name of current printer -- set a

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Jim Bufalini
Hi Stephan and Francis, If one has ever had to work with punched cards (and I have not) genuinely deserves the title hard core. That stuff was so boring in the 60s that it drove me away from the field. I did as a teenager in high school on a summer job (circa 1968). ;-) I had actually

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread Peter Brigham MD
It returns idle in all cases? Are you saying that it doesn't distinguish if the printer is on/connected vs off/disconnected? How would I get the contents of the various printer properties from this script into rev variables to test this out? Do I use an 'on appleEvent' handler -- if so,

Re: Errant stack file

2009-11-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
dunb...@aol.com wrote: I have a stack where I do all my testing. This stack is purged from memory when it is closed, though this may not be pertinent. When I open this stack in a new session of Rev from the finder (v.4) I get a dialog that the stack revMacCursors is already in memory, and

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Judy Perry
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Jim Bufalini wrote: It seems to me that your are trying to lead horses to water, who are neither thirsty nor want to drink. ;-) But the staggering amount of public funds that have been dumped into computers in the classroom requires that they really ought to either get

Re: Errant stack file

2009-11-19 Thread DunbarX
Jacque: There were two revMacCursors stacks in the Application Browser. Both have the exactly same pathname, back to the toolSet folder in the Rev 4gm folder. Both were mainstacks.There is only one such file in that folder, of course.One was at the bottom of the list, out of sort order, which

Re: Errant stack file

2009-11-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
dunb...@aol.com wrote: So I did it again. This time the extra cursor stack was shown sort of one level down, like it was a substack. And I was offered the option to delete. Everything is back to normal, though I don't know why, and don't really care. Thank you. I think you ran up against

Re: Errant stack file

2009-11-19 Thread DunbarX
I don't mind edicts; I can generally ignore them. But I am unjustly accused in this case. I never create stacks with the same name, and certainly don't expect Rev to. Craig In a message dated 11/19/09 5:51:25 PM, jac...@hyperactivesw.com writes: I think you ran up against the no duplicate

$ProgramFiles error

2009-11-19 Thread Shari
Pretty sure this isn't anywhere in my code so it must be somewhere deeper in. Does this ring a bell with anyone? From a customer email: Getting this error when we exit the program: Line 434 processing token global $ProgramFiles(x86) We running Vista on an HP laptop, the program is

Re: $ProgramFiles error

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Shari, I believe that this or a similar problem was discovered some time ago. It might have been fixed already. Are you sure that you built your standalone with the latest version of Revolution? I remember (quite) vaguely a discussion about incompatibility between global variable

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread BNig
Peter, to test this put this applescript into a field 1 and have a field 2 for the result - tell application Printer Setup Utility set tReturn to set x to name of every printer as list repeat with i from 1 to count of items of x set

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Peter, Here is another approach for OS X that might give you info that's easier to use. Or not. put shell(system_profiler SPPrintersDataType) into tDescriptions In my world it returns this: --- start of data --- Printers: Canon iP1700: Status: Idle Print Server: Local

Re: Growing Script Editor Fix?

2009-11-19 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I talked to... i think it was Ben... yeah, i talked to Ben during the conference about one of the bugs i filed. Basically it's the dreaded Mac menubar engine bug. The engine sometimes gets confused about the actual height of the stack, and the script editor has it's own menubar, thus the

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread Phil Davis
BNig wrote: The last item of the properties of a printer is the status, it unfortunately returns idle. At least you get the names of the printers. The current printer is the default printer. regards Bernd You can also get the names of the printers with: put the availablePrinters into

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Jim Bufalini
Hi Judy, Your points are all well taken and true - for kids. But if you read Alejandro's original post, you will see that he is designing a course outline for his fellow teachers who already program in more traditional language(s), which one or ones I don't know, and he is wanting to convert them

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread Phil Davis
Here's another OS X shell command that will list only the USB printers turned on. Unfortunately, it doesn't list them by their full names. Here's the code (in a button): on mouseUp put shell(ioreg) into tList filter tList with *IOUSBDevice* put the number of lines in tList cr tList

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Jim, I went back and re-read Alejandro's post and that is most definitely NOT the impression it gives me. I also chatted with him for a good half hour or more yesterday and nothing in that conversation suggested that these teachers already know how to program using another

Re: $ProgramFiles error

2009-11-19 Thread Shari
Definitely wasn't built with the latest version, good point. I did see a brief discussion in the archives about a problem with that specific global variable that others were having awhile back. Must be something in the backend of the Rev code or stacks. But didn't see a solution. Maybe the

Re: Mac ODBC connection to MSSQL on Windows Server

2009-11-19 Thread Len Morgan
Mark, If you've got a functional ODBC driver on the MAC it should work just like it was on Windows. At the wire level, it's just talking on sockets. As far as using it in a revLet, it appears all of us that have this need are, shall we say, screwed. You will have to have some sort of .cgi

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread JosepM
Hi, Also you can use from the shell: lpstat -p -- to see the available printers lpstat -d -- to know the default printer name and to send directly to the printer: lpr -P name of the printer -o page-ranges=1 -o landscape path to the file to print If you check the lpr command in CUPS manual

Re: [ANN] Data Tree 0.9.9 RC beta

2009-11-19 Thread JosepM
Hi Steve, Congratulations for your Data Tree! Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-Data-Tree-0-9-9-RC-beta-tp584774p624397.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-19 Thread Phil Davis
This is the best so far! Phil Davis JosepM wrote: Hi, Also you can use from the shell: lpstat -p -- to see the available printers lpstat -d -- to know the default printer name and to send directly to the printer: lpr -P name of the printer -o page-ranges=1 -o landscape path to the file

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Jim Bufalini
Judy Perry wrote: I went back and re-read Alejandro's post and that is most definitely NOT the impression it gives me. I also chatted with him for a good half hour or more yesterday and nothing in that conversation suggested that these teachers already know how to program using another

revStudio 4.0 Script Editor a slouch

2009-11-19 Thread Mark Stuart
What is up with the v4.0 Script editor? Platform: WinXP 1) Opening it with scripts in it has a delay before placing the cursor and being able to start typing 2) There's a definite delay when editing/typing anything in the editor 3) Clicking in the numbered margin to mark a Breakpoint is also

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-19 Thread Judy Perry
Hi Jim, If you spoke with him for 30-minutes yesterday, then you probably have not missed anything and I am the one who misunderstood his post. ;-) --Well, to clarify, it was a text-based chat as opposed to a phone-based one, so I might well have missed something! :-) None the less, and