The Linux problem, and a suggestion

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Alcibiades
We have been brought face to face with this again on the issue of font support. Coincidentally the other day an old friend asked me whether he should take up Rev or Python. I have a spare Rev license and offered it to him, and we had a discussion. If Linux is your main system, you do have

Re: How do I change the script for 100 buttons in one time?

2010-03-05 Thread Andre.Bisseret
Bonjour, I suggest a mix of Jacques' and Jim ' scripts and addition of a line to eliminate the current scripts of the 100 buttons on changeScripts --put fld newScript into baseScript repeat with k = 1 to the number of cards repeat with m = 1 to the number of btns in cd k

Re: The Linux problem, and a suggestion

2010-03-05 Thread Bernard Devlin
Peter, I agree almost completely with you. With a few caveats. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Fix the editor.  You must have some way of using the standard Linux programming editors in an integrated way.  Do plugins for Geany and Kate at

Re: The Linux problem, and a suggestion

2010-03-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I am obviously a lot easier to please than some people: If the font thing were sorted out I would be 100% happy with RunRev on Linux. Certainly, on my 17 monitor, the fonts in the Transcript Dictionary are a bit wee - but not such a socking great problem. Always been perfectly happy with the

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread René Micout
Hello Sarah, What about music and sound capacities ? René Le 5 mars 2010 à 03:11, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Marian Petrides mpetri...@earthlink.net wrote: I'd love to hear your more detailed impressions, Sarah, and I bet others would too. Meanwhile, thanks

Thousands of cards (Was RE: very strange rev behavior)

2010-03-05 Thread Jim Bufalini
Jacque wrote: The recommended number of cards is around 5 thousand, give or take a few, depending on how many objects are on the cards. I've done okay with 10,000 in one project. I wouldn't go much more than that. The public recommendation is 5-6K. OK... time for a dumb question. What kind

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread Richard Miller
And video. Can you create a video player and control it? Thanks. Richard Miller On 3/5/2010 5:47 AM, René Micout wrote: Hello Sarah, What about music and sound capacities ? René Le 5 mars 2010 à 03:11, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Marian

RE: How do I 'shorten' this script?

2010-03-05 Thread Jim Bufalini
Jim Ault wrote: I don't understand the logic of always putting false into tMatch. --I can see the value of... put empty into tMatch ... repeat .. get the backgroundcolor of grc tName of grp A put (IT = the backgroundcolor of grc tName of grp B) AFTER tMatch then

Re: The Linux problem, and a suggestion

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Richmond, try it on a 22 inch or larger monitor. See if you still feel the same. You won't. Or if you do now, you won't in five years. And if you offer it to anyone without 20/20 sight, they won't. The problem is, the sensible way of working that we have gotten used to in Linux is multiple

Re: The Linux problem, and a suggestion

2010-03-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/03/2010 14:30, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richmond, try it on a 22 inch or larger monitor. See if you still feel the same. You won't. Or if you do now, you won't in five years. And if you offer it to anyone without 20/20 sight, they won't. The problem is, the sensible way of working that

Re: Dispatch Versus Send

2010-03-05 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mar 4, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: What's the difference between the two other than Dispatch using the normal message path? One other point - as of Rev 4.0 you can dispatch functions as well. dispatch function GetValue to button 2 with theParam -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango

Re: Thousands of cards (Was RE: very strange rev behavior)

2010-03-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jim Bufalini wrote: OK... time for a dumb question. What kind of application would have 5,000 or 10,000 cards? Is it because the application is using cards to hold records of data instead of using a database? Otherwise, I can't even imagine it. Also, wouldn't an application with a stack with

Re: The Linux problem, and a suggestion

2010-03-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter, I'm with you on just about everything you wrote, but this one may be more complex than Rev alone can address: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Fix fonts. I have no idea how Rev picks what fonts it can and cannot see, and we get no answers, but every other Linux application there is can handle

Re: Dispatch Versus Send

2010-03-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Trevor DeVore wrote: One other point - as of Rev 4.0 you can dispatch functions as well. dispatch function GetValue to button 2 with theParam Way cool! Thanks for posting that; I'd missed that in the docs. For all of its advantages, I've taken on Mark Wieder's approach since dispatch was

Re: Interfacing to Mac iCal and Address Book

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Tom. I just found a bunch of sample Applescripts on the web that do all the basic stuff I need for this. Since this is not a multi-user app and the operations will be quick, one shot, add/read/ delete deals, I think Applescript will be fine Pete Haworth On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:47

Re: Dispatch Versus Send

2010-03-05 Thread Timothy Bleiler
Another point about Dispatch that's not documented is that you can use call by reference variables with it. On Mar 5, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: What's the difference between the two other than Dispatch using the normal message

RE: Thousands of cards (Was RE: very strange rev behavior)

2010-03-05 Thread Jim Bufalini
Richard Gaskin wrote: The problem is that you've been making software too long. :) If you've ever shipped a version 2.0 of something, you realize very clearly the traditional benefits of separating code, UI, and content, so you can enhance the UI without affecting the user's data. But HC

Re: How do I 'shorten' this script?

2010-03-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim- Friday, March 5, 2010, 4:07:04 AM, you wrote: I think Mark meant to say *put true into tMatch* before the repeat. That's what I meant, but I still messed up one more detail... on mouseUp local tMatch -- assume match put true into tMatch repeat with x = 1 to 5 put

Re: Dispatch Versus Send

2010-03-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, March 5, 2010, 5:57:57 AM, you wrote: Trevor DeVore wrote: One other point - as of Rev 4.0 you can dispatch functions as well. dispatch function GetValue to button 2 with theParam Way cool! Thanks for posting that; I'd missed that in the docs. It's not in the docs and

RE: How do I 'shorten' this script?

2010-03-05 Thread Jim Bufalini
That's OK Mark because I can tell you typed this into an email and not your editor. Had you typed it into your editor (and because I know you have explicitVars turned on) you would have gotten an error at *tName*. ;-) Aloha from Hawaii, Jim Bufalini Jim- Friday, March 5, 2010, 4:07:04 AM,

Re: How do I 'shorten' this script?

2010-03-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim- Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:19:27 AM, you wrote: That's OK Mark because I can tell you typed this into an email and not your editor. Had you typed it into your editor (and because I know you have explicitVars turned on) you would have gotten an error at *tName*. ;-) Uh oh... busted... --

Re: How do I change the script for 100 buttons in one time?

2010-03-05 Thread William de Smet
Thanks for your answers! 2010/3/5 Andre.Bisseret andre.bisse...@inria.fr Bonjour, I suggest a mix of Jacques' and Jim ' scripts and addition of a line to eliminate the current scripts of the 100 buttons on changeScripts --put fld newScript into baseScript repeat with k = 1 to the

Re: How do I 'shorten' this script?

2010-03-05 Thread William de Smet
@ everyone: thanks a lot! The script works. 2010/3/5 Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Jim- Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:19:27 AM, you wrote: That's OK Mark because I can tell you typed this into an email and not your editor. Had you typed it into your editor (and because I know you have

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread François Chaplais
Thanks to all (especially Sarah) for sharing your experience. Now I have to convince my wife Cheers, François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: How do I 'shorten' this script?

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 05.03.10 at 17:55 +0100 William de Smet apparently wrote: @ everyone: thanks a lot! The script works. A bit different take - just a single if on mouseUp repeat with x = 1 to 5 get A x put the backgroundcolor of grc it of grp A after tColorsA put the

What's wrong with the revWeb Plugin on OSX?

2010-03-05 Thread William de Smet
Hi there, I am using Safari 4.04 and FireFox 3.6 on OSX 10.6.2 (Snow Leopard). I started testing with revlets and they seem to work in these browsers but after putting another revlet on the web (size 1 MB) they both load the revlet but it doesn't go further than the runrev logo. FireFox even

iphone, Revmobile and access to API (geo-positioning_

2010-03-05 Thread Peter
Hi Sarah, is there any support for Geo-positioning (access to where you are?) Thanks, Peter __ Hello Sarah, What about music and sound capacities ? René I'd love to hear your more detailed impressions, Sarah, and I bet others would too.

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-05 Thread Marty Knapp
Thanks Richard and others who've posted on this. Very interesting articles. Now *all* I need to to do is wrap my brain around all this and decide how to proceed! Marty Marty Knapp wrote: I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between method. If your user then

RE: Thousands of cards (Was RE: very strange rev behavior)

2010-03-05 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi Richard, But HC made it very convenient to store data on cards, and out of the box provided no way to work with any database at all (SQLite hadn't even been invented yet). Bill Atkinson said more than once that HyperCard is not a database, but the convenience of using it as one

Rearranging Data Grid Columns with script

2010-03-05 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Is there a way to resize, rearrange, add, or delete columns in a datagrid with a script? If so, can you point in a proper direction? Curious, Andrew -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Rearranging-Data-Grid-Columns-with-script-tp1580094p1580094.html Sent from the Revolution

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread François Chaplais
Does it support externals? For instance, did someone succeed in compiling a stack that uses one of runrev's own externals (faceless ones, to begin with)? Bonne soirée de Paris François ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Rearranging Data Grid Columns with script

2010-03-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Is there a way to resize, rearrange, add, or delete columns in a datagrid with a script? If so, can you point in a proper direction? I have done some column resizing sorting via script - this handler copies the widths of

Re: iphone, Revmobile and access to API (geo-positioning_

2010-03-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
   is there any support for Geo-positioning (access to where you are?) No, not at the moment. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: The Linux problem, and a suggestion

2010-03-05 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Richard Gaskin wrote: At the heart of Rev's part in this is that Rev is still using fixed-resolution coordinates, while Gnome uses resolution-independent geometry. Firefox is the same as Rev in this regard, which explains why the content region in FF matches what you see in Rev almost

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:47 PM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com wrote: Hello Sarah, What about music and sound capacities ? beep does nothing. Playing an audioclip does nothing. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: And video. Can you create a video player and control it? I made a player object, added a movie to my app and tested. The movie doesn't load into the player. No error report, but nothing happens. Sarah

Re: Interfacing to Mac iCal and Address Book

2010-03-05 Thread JosepM
Hi, I also interested with these applescripts. Where you found it? Also I deal with add/modify iCal and Address Book records... Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Interfacing-to-Mac-iCal-and-Address-Book-tp1578454p1580327.html Sent from the Revolution - User

[OT] IE6 Funeral

2010-03-05 Thread Scott Rossi
This is years overdue. Here's hoping everybody moves on and this bane of developers' existence never returns. http://tinyurl.com/ydog3s8 Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: [OT] IE6 Funeral

2010-03-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott- Friday, March 5, 2010, 5:57:22 PM, you wrote: This is years overdue. Here's hoping everybody moves on and this bane of developers' existence never returns. http://tinyurl.com/ydog3s8 ...and from the comments section: Yay! Now that people aren’t using the standards abusing browser

Re: [OT] IE6 Funeral

2010-03-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
Oh hey! Everyone wants to comply with standards. Their own personal standards. ;-) Bob On Mar 5, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Scott- Friday, March 5, 2010, 5:57:22 PM, you wrote: This is years overdue. Here's hoping everybody moves on and this bane of developers' existence

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I've now installed my test stack on my iPhone and some of the results are a bit different: I can list the files in the default folder (which is in the app bundle) but I can't create a new file there. I can't download either a file or a web page from the internet. Multi-touch definitely works.

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread Colin Holgate
On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:33 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: bundle) but I can't create a new file there. I can't download either a file or a web page from the internet. It's normal for that to not work. You would want to write data to the applicationStorageDirectory folder, not the

Re: RevMobile first impressions?

2010-03-05 Thread Alex Shaw
Hi Sarah Thanks for the all the updates. For those who haven't seen it.. http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/05/revmobile-write-iphone-and-ipad-apps-without-knowing-objective/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Ftuaw+%28The+Unofficial+Apple+Weblog+%28TUAW%29%29 Hmm..

Re: [OT] IE6 Funeral

2010-03-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 06/03/2010 06:59, Bob Sneidar wrote: Oh hey! Everyone wants to comply with standards. Their own personal standards. ;-) Bob I really wonder about these much vaunted standards and how valuable they really are. Surely the only standards that are needed are: The program works, It