Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Randall Lee Reetz rand...@randallreetz.comwrote: What is the base fear or desire the iphad satisfies? Surely apple won't always own the only product that will meet that need. Again you've hit the nail on the head. There is no base fear or desire that the iPad

RE: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-04 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
From: J. Landman Gay If so, then it looks like I could simplify my code, and just do everything in the startup handler. That's what I do. :) Okay, now I'm a little puzzled. I removed all the old stuff about creating a template stack, adding the externals property to it, and then using it

Re: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-04 Thread Thierry D.
Le 4 mai 2010 à 04:37, Graham Heather Harrison a écrit : Jacque wrote: But look at the nice thread you started. Yes, it has been very informative… and civilised. Note: If you reference externals or externalPackages for me or this stack, your new External will not appear. Sorry.

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Kay, The part you are missing in all of this is who Jon Stewart is and what he represents. He is seen by many as the single most powerful Progressive voice in the media. His calling out of Apple and Jobs in particular, has huge ramifications, of which I am sure concerns many inside Apple. Jon

Re: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-04 Thread Thierry D.
Okay, now I'm a little puzzled. I removed all the old stuff about creating a template stack, adding the externals property to it, and then using it to create a dummy stack. I then added the following code to my main stack script: on startup if the platform is Win32 then set the

RE: if message is XYZ then do next step (not working)?

2010-05-04 Thread Shani
HI, Thanks I have check with if pResult is XYZ reached at goal then And if pResult is XYZ reached at goal then But both is not working Wheras when I receive blank if pResult is empty then this command work. -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:21 PM, David Bovill david.bov...@gmail.comwrote: I think Steve Jobs underestimated developer reaction in the age of the internet and open source - he can't get away with the same sort of things quite as easily as companies could last century. I also doubt he will

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Le 4 mai 2010 à 08:06, Kay C Lan a écrit : Jobs just has an uncanny, some think unnatural, ability to persuade enough people (not everyone, not even the majority, in some cases a piddling insignificant percentage) that they need to open their wallet and outlay a premium on a device they

RE: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Ok, maybe the ipad path is a virtual machine that runs rev stacks that are encapsulated within an apple compliment shell? Rev could distribute an ipad runner app and or a wrapper app that sucks stacks into the iphad RevWrapper (with or without runner included). Is there such a thing as app

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Le 4 mai 2010 à 09:46, Kay C Lan a écrit : Sorry, people are now choosing to develop for Apple's competitors so this is the basis for an Anti-Trust inquiry because it's stifling competition? I clearly don't understand something here. Yes it is unfortunate that one option has been removed,

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:05 PM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: I understand, I'm an idiot. Maybe, because when you're a fool you are often the last to realize. I had many Macintosh since 1984. No you're not, but then again maybe we both are. I too have owned many Macs, but

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Kay, It sounds like the part you are missing in all of this is who Jon Stewart is and what he represents. He is seen by many as the single most powerful Progressive voice in the media. His calling out of Apple and Jobs in particular, has huge ramifications, of which I am sure concerns many inside

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
The point of it all, is for someone like Jon to call Apple, Appholes, clearly shows there IS a problem. Am I the only one who has a problem with Jon Stewart tacitly condoning theft? Regards, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Le 4 mai 2010 à 10:27, Kay C Lan a écrit : that's why they refer to it as an iPhad - a pun on the word fad, meaning - like yoyo fad, or a rubic's cube fad. Thank you for this explanation, because I was a little lost with this non-translatable word ! (I believe that was a type or spelling

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: The whole point of this is, if someone like Jon Stewart calls Apple, Appholes, then things must be pretty bad. Wow, stereophonic reply. Certainly had me scratching my head there for a sec. Thanks for the pointer on Jon

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Are things changing ? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703612804575222553091495816.html?mod=WSJEUROPE_hpp_LEFTTopWhatNews René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Precision : read this in the article : Apple could try to head off trouble with antitrust enforcers by changing the terms of its developer agreement, one person familiar with the situation said. Le 4 mai 2010 à 11:17, René Micout a écrit : Are things changing ?

Re: if message is XYZ then do next step (not working)?

2010-05-04 Thread Kay C Lan
Hi Shani, if (pResult is XYZ reached at goal) then click at the loc of btn StartGoal else breakpoint end if As Craig suggested, if you put in an 'else' clause and breakpoint, when the script stops at the breakpoint what is in the VariableWatcher for pResult? HTH On Tue, May 4,

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:10 PM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: Perhaps I am a morbid aesthetic and perhaps a morbid fetish I have my first 128 K Macintosh (1984) on a shelf above my new iMac (2009) !! ;-) I'm definitely jealous. Mine was a 512K Enhanced. Long since given

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Le 4 mai 2010 à 11:41, Kay C Lan a écrit : On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:10 PM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote: Perhaps I am a morbid aesthetic and perhaps a morbid fetish I have my first 128 K Macintosh (1984) on a shelf above my new iMac (2009) !! ;-) I'm definitely

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Sorry for the double post. I tried first posting on my iPad, but the gMail client is still pretty flaky, and for some unknown reason, the Use-List keep rejecting any posts from the iPad's mail client. Steve's still got a few things to work out on this iPad. I ended up finally going downstairs and

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Definitively incomparable : IT IS TRUE !! How can one not be fetish after that ? The serial number of my first Mac 128 K is F5Ø128RM0001WP : The first number of my initials series... Le 4 mai 2010 à 11:41, Kay C Lan a écrit : On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:10 PM, René Micout

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades
If an iPhone Developer wants to port his App to a Android device, he'll be up against the exact same hurdles as an Android developer deciding to port to the iPhone. My only real interest in this question is the implications for Rev and its future direction and in particular the implications

AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip

2010-05-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, after another Test, Thierry could reproduce the described behaviour that you can't keep the locked flag (uchg) of a file when zipping it with PKzip. So perhaps anybody can confirm either if it is a standard behavior/feature of OSX 10.5/10.6 or it's a bug of OSX? Because I don't find any

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread David Bovill
Just a minor point on market share stats - of interest I think because of its relevance to developing on mobile platforms for this list: On 4 May 2010 08:46, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed, though Apple has the most applications, it is a distant second in terms of operating

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Like a few others on this list I am now pretty convinced that the PC market is about to be dramatically overtaken by the new mobile market in terms of sales and new software developments. Apple and others will be quite happy to leave the desktop market to the web and to open source strategies

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
And what about that ? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703612804575222553091495816.html?mod=WSJEUROPE_hpp_LEFTTopWhatNews Particulary at the end of the article of the Wall Street Journal : Apple could try to head off trouble with antitrust enforcers by changing the terms of its

on-rev client can't access server

2010-05-04 Thread Martin Koob
I am trying this morning to access the on-rev server with the on-rev client but it won't connect to the server. Is the server down? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks?

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Brigham MD
Re: quoted text is treated as one word, On May 3, 2010, at 7:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Michael wrote: Hi: I'm inclined to disagree. I would vote to keep the current behavior. m I could easily have overlooked some simple reason to retain it. How do you use it, generally? I'd like to

Re: on-rev client can't access server

2010-05-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Martin, Seemed me that the loki server is, time to time, responding very slowly today but this need confirmation. Best, Le 4 mai 2010 à 14:44, Martin Koob a écrit : I am trying this morning to access the on-rev server with the on-rev client but it won't connect to the server. Is the

Re: on-rev client can't access server

2010-05-04 Thread Michael Kann
Odin up --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote: From: Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr Subject: Re: on-rev client can't access server To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Cc: On Rev Support on-...@runrev.com Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:15 AM Hi

Re: if message is XYZ then do next step (not working)?

2010-05-04 Thread DunbarX
Please try changing the text to something that is simpler, like test. If this single word works, then retype the phrase you really want, and paste it (do not retype it) everywhere you use it. Sometimes invisible characters make their way into the works, Sometimes there is no apparent reason,

Re: on-rev client can't access server

2010-05-04 Thread Martin Koob
-Michael Kann mikek...@... writes: - Odin up --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Pierre Sahores psaho...@... wrote: -- Hi Martin, -- Seemed me that the loki server is, time to time, responding -- very slowly today but this need confirmation. -- Best, It is working now. Martin

Re: No-asci chars from the on-rev CGI

2010-05-04 Thread paolo mazza
Thank you. You are right. Now I realize that from the on-rev CGI (using the put command) i receive a Mac OS character-set string, So, when I am in windows I have to use a macToISO() to translate it into the ISO 8859-1character set. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:21 PM, J. Landman Gay I'm not sure if

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 80, Issue 16

2010-05-04 Thread Graham Heather Harrison
Altogether now, No! No! A thousand times no! I'd rather die than say yes! Mark Wieder wrote: No…NoNoNoNo…No Thierry D. wrote: Sorry. It's just wrong ! I feel as if I've run afoul of the Church-of-we-don't-do-it-that-way/Denomination-rev/Sect-externals. The main reasons given for not doing it

Re: Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks?

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Brigham MD
You can accomplish this by using a non-breaking space (Mac = option- space, chartonum(202)). -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On May 4, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Michael Kann wrote: Peter, The current quoted-text convention might be useful if the

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sarah Reichelt wrote: The point of it all, is for someone like Jon to call Apple, Appholes, clearly shows there IS a problem. Am I the only one who has a problem with Jon Stewart tacitly condoning theft? Maybe I'm too much of a Daily Show fan, but I didn't get that from the piece. It

Re: Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks?

2010-05-04 Thread Michael Kann
Peter, That's a clever solution, thanks. Mike --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday,

Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
Fairly new to RR here, but have used HyperCard and then SuperCard at the amateur level for a while. I see in RR that you put items in GROUPS to have them appear on every card in a stack as opposed to SC where you put them in the BACKGROUND. I have a GROUP of items on a single card in a stack.

Re: Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
I was shocked, I thought for a moment that it was Steve Jobs who responded to our concerns... ;-) Le 4 mai 2010 à 16:30, Steve Jones a écrit : Fairly new to RR here, but have used HyperCard and then SuperCard at the amateur level for a while. I see in RR that you put items in GROUPS to

Re: Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 4, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I see in RR that you put items in GROUPS to have them appear on every card in a stack as opposed to SC where you put them in the BACKGROUND. I have a GROUP of items on a single card in a stack. When the CREATE CARD command is issued in a

Re: Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
Aha - that was it. Didn't even see that option. No very intuitive. You have to create a GROUP and then assign it to be a BACKGROUND rather than just going straight to a background to begin with. I guess there's more flexibility that way. Thanks! Steve On May 4, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Colin

Re: Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread Michael Kann
Steve, -- Comprehensive answer -- go here: http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/online-scripting-conferences/ scroll down to number 6 -- groups and backgrounds download the stack -- Specific answer

Re: Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks?

2010-05-04 Thread Jeff Massung
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com wrote: Re: quoted text is treated as one word, On May 3, 2010, at 7:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Michael wrote: Hi: I'm inclined to disagree. I would vote to keep the current behavior. m I could easily have overlooked

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: To that I say, let it happen, let market forces play out, let capitalism do it's thing. Amen. I can't help but wonder if underlying all of this may be that Steve Jobs doesn't have faith in Apple's ability to deliver an unquestionably superior experience. He writes about

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
YES !! Le 4 mai 2010 à 16:56, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Kay C Lan wrote: To that I say, let it happen, let market forces play out, let capitalism do it's thing. Amen. I can't help but wonder if underlying all of this may be that Steve Jobs doesn't have faith in Apple's ability to

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Michael Kann
Richard, Did you catch the misleading use of logic in Steve's anti-Flash explanation? He outlined a scenario whereby third-party developers would become dependent on Flash, thereby causing problems when Apple innovated faster than Adobe. But think it through. The only reason that third-party

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Marty Knapp
Well put, Richard. Let's hope that Apple has a change of mind on this one. Marty Knapp Kay C Lan wrote: To that I say, let it happen, let market forces play out, let capitalism do it's thing. Amen. I can't help but wonder if underlying all of this may be that Steve Jobs doesn't have

RE: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-04 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
From: Thierry D. A guess : your external is launched from another stack. A second guess : you have already launched your external before starting your stack, or say other way, the previous time you launched your external, it didn't close properly and keep running in the IDE. I figured

Re: Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Steve Jones wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 4, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I see in RR that you put items in GROUPS to have them appear on every card in a stack as opposed to SC where you put them in the BACKGROUND. I have a GROUP of items on a

Re: Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread Devin Asay
On May 4, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Fairly new to RR here, but have used HyperCard and then SuperCard at the amateur level for a while. I see in RR that you put items in GROUPS to have them appear on every card in a stack as opposed to SC where you put them in the BACKGROUND.

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Jeff Massung
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:21 PM, David Bovill david.bov...@gmail.com wrote: So to the article: In forcing computer programmers to choose developing an Apple-exclusive app over one that can be used on Apple and

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Neal Campbell
Their argument on Javascript will be: 1. its ubiquitous (unlike Flash which is supposedly only on 98% of all PCs) 2. since you can only run Apple's browser and they wrote webkit, they can control what you do with javascript 3. since Jobs mentioned that xx percent of reboots due to software under

Re: Newbie question

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
Le 4 mai 2010 à 17:12, Richard Gaskin a écrit : At the top of the Prefs window in the first section there are two radio controls in a group labeled Property labels are: with the options being Description of option and Name of RevTalk Property. Click the latter. Thank you Richard, I don't

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Neal Campbell
Hi Jeff But what happens if MSFT or Nintendo reject your app. They hold the same power of rejection that Apple does, only with apple you have bought aa extra computer. They would also contend that since there is a healthy resale market, you can buy a used apple that they do not gain a nickle from

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Jerry Daniels
No you're not. Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 4, 2010, at 3:28 AM, Sarah Reichelt sarah.reich...@gmail.com wrote: The point of it all, is for someone like Jon to call Apple, Appholes, clearly shows

RE: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
So, summarizing: - You are forced to purchase addition Apple hardware. - You are forced to distribute through Apple. Bottom line: no competition throughout the entire life-cycle of the final product. At least you don't have to buy cartridges from Nintendo any more. That's was a killer

Re: Rev and the iPad

2010-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Spookier still is to consider what ungodly combination of space alien and furry marmot gave birth to Barney. Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: Rev and the iPad

2010-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
The first version sounded more pithy. It had me thinking for 5 whole minutes. Bob On May 2, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Oops. Getting late. Meant to say: The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay Best, Jerry Daniels

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Jeff Massung
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeff But what happens if MSFT or Nintendo reject your app. They hold the same power of rejection that Apple does, Not true. The idea of reject isn't quite the same in the console context as it is for Apple and the

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: Richard and others have made this point - but I think the figures are misleading. From memory there are two figures that stick in my head - and it would be great to have them discussed, trashed or verified on this list :) First that 97% of mobile app revenues are on the

OT/maybe On-Rev related: free Yourname.TK domains

2010-05-04 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Dear all, maybe this is of interest for some of you. Everyone can register an unlimited amount of free .tk domains at http://www.dot.tk. This might be of special interest for the on-rev users, because one can setup the domain to use ones own (in this case the on-rev) nameservers. Works

Re: OT/maybe On-Rev related: free Yourname.TK domains

2010-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 04/05/2010 19:17, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Dear all, maybe this is of interest for some of you. Everyone can register an unlimited amount of free .tk domains at http://www.dot.tk. .tk: Tokelau, a country in the South Pacific This might be of special interest for the on-rev users,

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread stephen barncard
I still have my working SE-30, which still has big screen capability, 10Base-T Ethernet, and an accelerator. Last use was to be an SMTP and FTP server - worked well. I'm keeping that unit, but am giving my other Mac history items away - any luddites in SF call me before they become e-waste. I

RE: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Wow, I completely disagree. Apps aren't apples. Apps are apples and oranges and anteaters. The basis of your argument is that materials have more to do with desire than the finished product. That would be akin to art historians only comparing art by the paint used. That steve jobs is up to

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread René Micout
I have also a SE30, II FX and all my portables (Mac Portable, PB170, PB9400, PB G3 (black), PB Titanium, PB G4 12) All the others have been recycled... snif... :-( I only keep the Mac on which I worked Le 4 mai 2010 à 18:35, stephen barncard a écrit : I still have my working SE-30, which still

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Marty Knapp
I have a client that sometimes works for lawyers as an expert witness doing economic loss analysis. I think he charges $300 an hour. And he does all his calculations on a 1985 SE/30 running Excel 2.0. I put its second hard drive in about 5 years ago and recently swapped out the motherboard as

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Jerry Daniels
Marty, ironic profession and specialty for your client to have given the context of this thread (more like a rug than a thread)! Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 4, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Marty Knapp

RE: OT/maybe On-Rev related: free Yourname.TK domains

2010-05-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Everyone can register an unlimited amount of free .tk domains at http://www.dot.tk. What is sorta fun is entering common words to see how much they want to charge you for those domains. There's clearly some sort of sophisticated system set up to figure out what the value is of a domain.

Re: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Wieder wrote: Try this in a button: on mouseUp answer file where is the library file? if it is not empty then set the externals of this stack to it save this stack revert end if end mouseUp That's pretty much the same as the test I asked Graham to do before, except

Re: Rev and the iPad

2010-05-04 Thread Marty Knapp
Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: on BarneyCode put CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR Into IsBarneyTheAntiChrist put 0 into TheNumberThatWillProveIt replace U with V in IsBarneyTheAntiChrist --Should be proper Latin- well, because repeat with x=1 to the number of chars of

RE: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
What everyone here seems to forget is that flash finally took vector graphics powered by very tightly packed and efficiently executed byte code to a web that choked up by static bit maps. It was long overdue. Problem is that it never belonged at the plugin level. Now steve is trying to right

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 04/05/2010 19:44, René Micout wrote: I have also a SE30, II FX and all my portables (Mac Portable, PB170, PB9400, PB G3 (black), PB Titanium, PB G4 12) All the others have been recycled... snif... :-( I only keep the Mac on which I worked Le 4 mai 2010 à 18:35, stephen barncard a écrit :

Re: User Extensions/Externals

2010-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Paul D. DeRocco wrote: From: J. Landman Gay If so, then it looks like I could simplify my code, and just do everything in the startup handler. That's what I do. :) Okay, now I'm a little puzzled. I removed all the old stuff about creating a template stack, adding the externals property to

Re: Rev and the iPad

2010-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 04/05/2010 20:05, Marty Knapp wrote: Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: on BarneyCode put CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR Into IsBarneyTheAntiChrist put 0 into TheNumberThatWillProveIt replace U with V in IsBarneyTheAntiChrist --Should be proper Latin- well, because repeat with

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 04/05/2010 20:09, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: What everyone here seems to forget is that flash finally took vector graphics powered by very tightly packed and efficiently executed byte code to a web that choked up by static bit maps. It was long overdue. Problem is that it never belonged

Re: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip

2010-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
My gut feeling is that because zipping and unzipping files do not literally move the files, but rather create new copies of the original, it would be up to the zip application developer to reset flags to the original file's state. The OS is doing exactly what it is being told to do by the Zip

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Neal Campbell
Hi Jeff What happens if they refuse to give you the QA approval? It now sounds like they have, as opposed to execute, the power to stop you at 2 points in the development cycle. The fact that they do not use it is separate from the license agreement which appears to have dual points of approval,

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Randall Reetz
Thomas McGrath sent the following to me. Anyone know what it means or is supposed to do? Randall On May 2, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: [...] NSString *documentsDirectory = [paths objectAtIndex:0]; while(!madeNewPath) { imgPath = [documentsDirectory

RE: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Well that is better than the usual response. We can't wag our fingers simply because someone has figured out how to be better or bigger criminals that we are. Big criminals get big only because the larger society in which they practice their art reflects in public sentiment the criminal

AW: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip

2010-05-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Bob, interesting point of view. But if you use ditto to make just a copy of that locked file, it does make a copy WITH the locked flag. Just not when zipping. So where is the difference? In both cases it creates a new file. Obviously it has something to do with the zip container. Perhaps a zip

Re: Changing the Style of Words in Field And Quotation Marks?

2010-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jeff Massung wrote: I use this feature quite often in almost all my Rev apps. On Windows, when applications install themselves they update the registry saying how to use various types of file extensions. For example: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\QuickTime.mov\shell\open\command c:\Program

Repeat question

2010-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
An area I never mastered with SuperCard and still have trouble with in RR is using the repeat control structure... I want to check every field on a card before it closes to be sure none are EMPTY. I know the structure would be REPEAT for the number of fields on the card if field 1 is empty

Re: AW: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip

2010-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
I suspect that Ditto, when making a copy is not actually making the copy itself, but telling the OS to do it. It would make sense that the OS, when making a copy, would preserve all the appropriate OS flags. A zip program on the other hand, has to create it's own compressed file structure

AW: AW: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip

2010-05-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Bob, I think you hit it. Googleing I found the following: Only a limited number of utilities are chflags aware. Some of these tools include ls(1), cp(1), find(1), install(1), dump(8), and restore(8). In particular a tool which is not currently chflags aware is the pax(1) utility. And

Re: AW: AW: need advice for keeping file flags in a zip

2010-05-04 Thread Thierry D.
Le 4 mai 2010 à 20:22, Bob Sneidar a écrit : A zip program on the other hand, has to create it's own compressed file structure inside the file the OS knows about. It would then be up to the developer to set the flags appropriately, as the OS has no part to play with what is going on

Re: Repeat question

2010-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi steve. First, you are using the wrong form of repeat. You need an index to the field you are referencing, so your repeat loop should start like this: REPEAT with theFieldNumber = 1 to the number of fields on the card Now in your repeat loop you can refer to field theFieldNumber which will

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Jeff Massung
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com wrote: What happens if they refuse to give you the QA approval? Nothing other than you fix a couple bugs and resubmit for approval. To be clear, this is *not* like submitting your app to Apple for approval in the AppStore.

Re: Repeat question

2010-05-04 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/5/4 Steve Jones stevejo...@mac.com: An area I never mastered with SuperCard and still have trouble with in RR is using the repeat control structure... I want to check every field on a card before it closes to be sure none are EMPTY. I know the structure would be REPEAT for the

Re: Repeat question

2010-05-04 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On 05/04/2010 at 02:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: An area I never mastered with SuperCard and still have trouble with in RR is using the repeat control structure... I want to check every field on a card before it closes to be sure none are EMPTY. I know the structure would be REPEAT for the

Re: Rev and the iPad

2010-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Marty Knapp wrote: Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: You stayed awake all night thinking this up, right? :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Repeat question

2010-05-04 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/5/4 roger.e.el...@sealedair.com: On 05/04/2010 at 02:15 PM, Steve Jones wrote: An area I never mastered with SuperCard and still have trouble with in RR is using the repeat control structure... I want to check every field on a card before it closes to be sure none are EMPTY. I know the

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Neal Campbell
I have hope though that public pressure and the SEC could change matters. Maybe the game market isn't precedence but I am sure Apple will try to make it that way! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog:

Re: [OT, way way OT] Barney, HC, and the glory days

2010-05-04 Thread Judy Perry
Yupp, that's THE right age alright. My 9-year-olds like to go around singing Barnie-die songs. As much as Barney eventually drove me crazy, I'm not certain these songs aren't worse. Judy On Sun, 2 May 2010, J. Landman Gay wrote: You have to get a nine year old to do it. :)

Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 80, Issue 16

2010-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Graham Heather Harrison wrote: I feel as if I've run afoul of the Church-of-we-don't-do-it-that-way/Denomination-rev/Sect-externals. Hey, I warned you. :) I'm glad you're a good sport. Mark kindly provided a script for binding Externals. I wish I had seen it earlier. It cuts out a lot of

Re: Apples actual response to the Flash issue

2010-05-04 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On 05/04/2010 at 03:23 PM, Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote: Thomas McGrath sent the following to me. Anyone know what it means or is supposed to do? Randall On May 2, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: [...] NSString *documentsDirectory = [paths objectAtIndex:0];

Password protection

2010-05-04 Thread Gabel Paul
Hello everyone: I tried to password protect my stacks, but I must be missing some basic concept. I read the Password entry in the Dictionary, then I set the password on the Stacks screen of the Standalone Application Settings window, then I created my standalone. When I open the standalone,

Re: Password protection

2010-05-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Paul, Only the scripts are protected by that password. If you want any other kind of protection, you need to script it yourself (and those scripts are in turn protected by the password set in the standalone settings). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and

Re: Password protection

2010-05-04 Thread Pierre Sahores
Paul, The way i use with success is to protect the stack before going to the app builder in filling set the password of this stack to yourpassword in the messagebox before pressing enter and saving the stack. Works fine there and the stack just need to be in its unlocked state at the time you

Re: Apple Anti-Trust (was Apples actual response to the Flash issue)

2010-05-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Well and coherently argued, as usual. But, question: if the restrictions stick or fail to stick, what do you think the implications are for Rev and resources for multiple platforms? If they do get into the App Store, are there enough resources to do that, Windows, OSX, Linux and Android as

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