Richmond Mathewson wrote:
On 19/05/2010 23:51, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Using Help From Within the Script Editor
The Help System's Language Guide entries can be looked up
automatically from within SuperCard's or
SuperEdit's script editor window. Simply hilite the word
Yes... But that !
http://www.paris-26-gigapixels.com/index-en.html
Le 20 mai 2010 à 02:25, Michael Kann a écrit :
The ability to zoom in on this image is amazing.
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/15374/
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Dioes the Finder have the ability to get and set properties, ie permissions?
The usual thing to do in Linux, very similar base, would be to tell the user
to right click in a file manager, ie in the Mac case the Finder, get
properties, and change the permissions to executable. You wouldn't
Yes, of course. I shall have to try this on the printing script. Thanks!
There is also, for completeness, the nohup command, which lets a process run
after the terminal session has closed, might come in handy in similar
situations.
Peter
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Le 19 mai 2010 à 23:05, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :
Thierry,
Hello Malte,
does your stack have any substacks that are still open?
Rev can not destroy it in that case.
Yes, one substack and sometimes it's visible, sometimes not visible.
Then, the mainstack is closed, but still in memory.
I would like to be able to set up a testing scenario that enables a user to
preview a view widget in a browser as a fully functioning test / demo. I
have a library of these views with each view residing in its own stack. I
can set up standalone settings so that when you open a view stack you can
On 20/05/2010 07:31, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote:
HyperNext is hardly developed by 1 person. It is based on REALbasic,
using RB's scripting language as its programming language. So the fact
that it can play multiple sounds, run on multiple platforms, etc.,
comes courtesy of the hard work of the team
HyperNext supports note playing based upon QuickTime Musical
instruments. On
Windows machines note playing requires QuickTime to be installed. There
are 128
instruments available and a list of their names can be accessed using a
HyperNext
function.
Three different approaches to playing
More ! to make chords 7 is better !
René
Le 20 mai 2010 à 13:36, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
Plying 2 sounds simultaneously in RunRev is a no-no; and the
addition of sound channels would be a significanr addition.
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YES !
Le 20 mai 2010 à 13:46, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :
HyperNext supports note playing based upon QuickTime Musical
instruments. On
Windows machines note playing requires QuickTime to be installed. There are
128
instruments available and a list of their names can be accessed
Thierry wrote:
Another point: this reminds me one thread on this list about someone
who couldn't start an external. I guess/feel that his problem could be
that
his stack was still in memory, and when he restarted it, the normal
process of
loading the external didn't work because the stack
This has been troubling me. Steve jobs is reputed to have said:
“Something like HyperCard on the iPad? Yes, but someone would have to create
it”
at the Apple’s shareholder
meetinghttp://www.macworld.com/article/146739/2010/02/2010appleshareholdermtg.htmlsome
time in early 2010. The closest
Dear List,
A quick post to let you know that the Slug continues to work hard on
its Data Grid Helper project.
To give the best possible experience, it has updated the road map:
Hi Jerry, I'm still reading about Rodeo and trying to evaluate whether to
take the plunge. there are a couple of things I don't quite get:
1. The web apps being served by On-Rev: Rodeo server is a
highly-scaleable, secure, n-tier architected cloud solution. So there is no
way to author
I agree and put my signature, but for iPad !
René
Le 20 mai 2010 à 14:34, David Bovill a écrit :
This has been troubling me. Steve jobs is reputed to have said:
“Something like HyperCard on the iPad? Yes, but someone would have to create
it”
at the Apple’s shareholder
Of course it's still early days, but we are very serious about having a
scaleable backend service.
Since one of us is in Australia, we also want geographic coverage. Every day
this sector of our industry gets better.
Massively shared servers? No. Deals for dedicated servers? Yes.
We want
Oh and by the way, if you're loading revlets, then checkout:
http://hg.andregarzia.com/revletobject
This will make your life easier.
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:24 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:
I would like to be able to set up a testing scenario that enables a user to
David,
I think in the current incarnation, revLets can load remote stacks. So just
copy all your library stacks to a nice URL and load them with:
go stack url bla bla bla
start using stack bla bla bla
:D
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:24 AM, David Bovill da...@vaudevillecourt.tvwrote:
I would
David Bovill wrote:
So perhaps it is worth asking along which lines a real HyperCard app could
be made on the iPhone?
Jeanne DeVoto shared this link with the improve-rev list recently, a
blog written by someone who used to work at Apple who applies the
insights from his history there to
I've been following this thread and am very excited about the
possibility of more audio functionality from within Rev. I am
continually in need for these kinds of tools (mostly audio but also
midi.) Here's my wishlist:
- Play a sound file at a different speeds without changing pitch,
totally agree. plus: totally fit for the iPhone/iPad.
But we may see this someday. See this (sorta funny) blogpost
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/18/when-jobs-says-no-we-hear-maybe-heres-why/
Le 20 mai 2010 à 16:36, Richard Gaskin a écrit :
David Bovill wrote:
So perhaps it is worth asking along
It's worth noting that you can already do this in Shakobox, available on
Jacque's site...
Judy
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
HyperNext supports note playing based upon QuickTime Musical
instruments. On
Windows machines note playing requires QuickTime to be installed.
MJ and I were just discussing the fact that the entire iPad itself is
HyperCard-like. The original HyperCard, that is.
Think about it...there are no windows, there's just a screen. It's got
the Home stack and everything. It's fairly modal, also.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Use tRev's buy link
Yes, it is... I use it for complex applications, but there is some limitations
like control duration by example...
Bon souvenir de Paris
René
Le 20 mai 2010 à 17:10, Judy Perry a écrit :
It's worth noting that you can already do this in Shakobox, available on
Jacque's site...
Judy
On
Jerry Daniels wrote:
MJ and I were just discussing the fact that the entire iPad itself is
HyperCard-like. The original HyperCard, that is.
Think about it...there are no windows, there's just a screen. It's got
the Home stack and everything. It's fairly modal, also.
GMTA:
On 20 May 2010 14:27, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
Of course it's still early days, but we are very serious about having a
scaleable backend service.
Since one of us is in Australia, we also want geographic coverage. Every
day this sector of our industry gets better.
Massively
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad
only if they could have complete assurances it would be available
EXCLUSIVELY for iPhone OS.
Kevin offered to do exactly that, and was still refused. It's in his
blog post.
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I've worked on several projects with massive numbers of simultaneous
users and hits against data. Did this for Nortel, a broadband wireless
company and another small telecom.
The trick is to know where to scale the hardware and where to put the
data and where to put the logic.
Look at it
now, when RevMobile runs on the future android devices, we'll take over the
world and jobs will fired from apple and found a company called NeXTAgaIN
just to ship some products called NextPad Turbo NextPhoneCube and be bought
by Apple when His Steveness will be again CEO, rinse, repeat
On Thu,
On 20 May 2010 16:46, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only
if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for
iPhone OS.
Kevin offered to do exactly that,
On 20 May 2010 16:57, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
now, when RevMobile runs on the future android devices, we'll take over the
world and jobs will fired from apple and found a company called NeXTAgaIN
just to ship some products called NextPad Turbo NextPhoneCube and be bought
by
On 20 May 2010 16:55, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
The cheapest, most scalable and fastest performing are all the same
solution:
1. Client: thin
2. Web server: thin, but round-robin'd the IP addresses to 1 of the 13 app
servers
3. Web app server: hefty, almost fat
4. Data:
David,
I don't think you'll reach problems of scalability that easily. Twitter and
Facebook have scalability issues, you'll probably be fine for months before
reaching scaling issues even if you're really successful.
Don't think a single server with a single database is no good for your
needs.
David Bovill wrote:
On 20 May 2010 16:46, J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only
if they could have complete assurances it would be available EXCLUSIVELY for
iPhone OS.
Kevin
Years ago, i did test an XServe G4 running a Sybase ASE 12.5 and went able to
get 1500 web served requests / secs without any server's stress at all. And as
anyone should know, OS X Server is lots less responsive than Linux or BSD.
2 cents,
Best, Pierre
Le 20 mai 2010 à 18:49, Andre Garzia a
heh heh. The SQL would practically kill you, and we need you programming in Rev
these days.
Bob
On May 19, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
oh and this is to the Brazilian public, I don't think we send anything
overseas... it is mostly promotions and ads for big shops and companies in
looks like the last 2 zooms are beyond actual resolution, kind of like those
cameras that have actual zoom and electronic zoom.
Bob
On May 19, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Michael Kann wrote:
The ability to zoom in on this image is amazing.
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/15374/
Much nicer!
Bob
On May 19, 2010, at 11:34 PM, René Micout wrote:
Yes... But that !
http://www.paris-26-gigapixels.com/index-en.html
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On Windows, you make something executable by putting .exe at the end. Of
course, if it's not a real executable, nothing will happen, and if it is a real
executable, and you don't put .exe at the end, it won't execute. This actually
makes it a simple matter to send someone what looks like a jpg
RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be iPhone/iPad
only. That isn't the issue.
Bob
On May 20, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/iPad only if
they could have complete assurances it would be
Apple's OS X isn't the only OS with deeply integrated search, or the only
one with good multitasking, or even the only one with the strength of having
Unix at its core.
No the best OS in terms of integrated search, multitasking and having some
unix features at its core is Haiku. Nothing
Again I stress that if we try to put too much 'stuff' into this library
(read: special effects) that it will distract from getting a solid
foundation for us to build on. Rather than insisting on the inclusion of
arbitrary, possibly lower-quality reverbs and time stretchers, I would
rather see an
I think you miss understand what I'm saying or your experiences don't match my
own.
What I suggest is not expensive and is, in effect, what most n-tier architected
solutions do. I learned from a couple guys who invented data access via a
stateless browser. But what do they know?
You might be
Absolutely.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Create iPad web apps with Rodeo:
http://rodeoapps.com
On May 20, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
You're probably safe on On-Rev or Rodeo or whatever is invented soon
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Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Dioes the Finder have the ability to get and set properties, ie permissions?
The usual thing to do in Linux, very similar base, would be to tell the user
to right click in a file manager, ie in the Mac case the Finder, get
properties, and change the permissions to
Thank you David for the precision.
Jérôme
Le 19 mai 2010 à 21:47, David Bovill a écrit :
The whole point of a behavior is that it works for multiple objects (in your
case a group) and acts a bit like a library for that group - so you can copy
and paste the group where you want and all the
John Patten wrote:
Here's what i have:
put the effective filename of current stack into theTargetPath
set the itemDel to /
delete last item of theTargetPath
delete first item of theTargetPath
put / theTargetPath /recordings/ into theRecordingTarget
convert the date the long time to seconds
I agree with Bob here Richard.
On 20 May 2010 19:00, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be
iPhone/iPad only. That isn't the issue.
It is not exclusivity that is being asked for. It does not matter that Rev
was offered for one
Jérôme Rosat wrote:
I created a custom control. I set the behavior of the group
(the custom control) to a button script (I want no script in
the group).
If I copy the custom control in a new stack, i need to copy
the button script too, or the stack that contains the button
script as a
Yes, mostly agree with this. The link quotes earlier says:
I was working at Apple when this process happened, and I can tell you that
it was searing. Apple had invested countless hours and dollars marketing
those products as prominent reasons to buy Macs, and then we saw that
investment turned
Jacque: By done in the terminal does that mean it can't be done by shell()
?
On 20 May 2010 11:39, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
Dioes the Finder have the ability to get and set properties, ie
permissions? The usual thing to do in Linux, very
0306857AHC2.3GS.PDF
the soundChannel determines the channel on which the next sound
will be generated.
Funnily enough Runrev claims to be Hypercard's natural successor;
but . . .
Ok, Ok, Ok; I can't crack marrowbones with my teeth like some of
my Neanderthal forefathers.
However; I would not
stephen barncard wrote:
Jacque: By done in the terminal does that mean it can't be done by shell()
?
Oh no, you can do anything in shell that you can do in Terminal. Done
in Terminal is my personal, all-inclusive term for the command line. :)
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David Bovill wrote:
I agree with Bob here Richard.
On 20 May 2010 19:00, Bob Sneidar bobs at twft.com wrote:
RunRev's recent proposed approach would have forced RevMobile to be
iPhone/iPad only. That isn't the issue.
It is not exclusivity that is being asked for. It does not matter that
On 20/05/2010 22:10, Peter Alcibiades wrote:
snip
Someplace in Cupertino there is Politbureau sayinging no, life is as it was
in 1985 Alas, it is not.
No, it isn't 1985; but in North Korea it is somewhere round about 1950; in
China it is a real case of mixed calendars, and in
Be fair, these are not *general purpose* interpreters. There are many
calculator apps, if you want to go this way.
On iPhone OS, apparently you're allowed to use runtime-interpreted
instructions only if you name your app Bento, Numbers, or GameSalad.
David,
Not sure if there was a Rodeo question or something in there, but I
will try to clarify, etc.
Rodeo is not a hosting package. We host your LIST code and translate
it into iPad web app pages. You don't get an ftp addess or anything
like that, so, no it's not a standard On-Rev
François Chaplais wrote:
Be fair, these are not *general purpose* interpreters. There are
many calculator apps, if you want to go this way.
On iPhone OS, apparently you're allowed to use runtime-interpreted
instructions only if you name your app Bento, Numbers, or
GameSalad.
True, and if
Playing with a revLet:
put the revletParams of this stack into someArray
combine someArray with CR and tab
put $HTTP_HOST CR CR someArray into someText
answer someText
But I am not getting anything for $HTTP_HOST it looks like that global
is not supported. This is what I
On 20 May 2010, at 16:46, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe Apple would allow a HyperCard-like app for the iPhone/
iPad only if they could have complete assurances it would be
available EXCLUSIVELY for iPhone OS.
Kevin offered to do exactly that, and was still
On 20 May 2010, at 18:08, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Blowing off the other 83.9% of the mobile market (Apple says they
have only 16.1%) just to appease His Steveness would have been
suicidal, so if that was the intent we can all be glad the proposal
was rejected.
16% of the market that make
Very good advice. Thank you. I was cooking pancakes on a piece of tin foil
when I started this thing. Now I have a non-stick griddle. Or at least a
griddle (better practices) and real butter (this list).
My IDE behaves fine after starting a new project. And alot of the later code
I wrote was
David,
Have a look at this http://qurl.tk/av
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quote
This really should work - what am I doing wrong?
on mouseUp
if the optionkey is Down then
put Hello World! into fld 1
else
put url http://www.google.com; into fld 1
end if
end mouseUp
I create a simple stack with one button and the above script and one field.
It works
Thanks Mark - I'm wandering if I should file access to the more usual Apache
environment globals as a feature request?
On 20 May 2010 21:23, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.comwrote:
David,
Have a look at this http://qurl.tk/av
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I don't think so, because a revlet runs locally, not on the server.
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So does HTML :)
On 20 May 2010 21:42, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.comwrote:
Hi David,
I don't think so, because a revlet runs locally, not on the server.
Anyway it is useful.
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Thursday, May 20, 2010, 9:49:57 AM, you wrote:
David,
I don't think you'll reach problems of scalability that easily. Twitter and
Facebook have scalability issues, you'll probably be fine for months before
reaching scaling issues even if you're really successful.
Twitter, Digg,
On 20 May 2010 21:52, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
Twitter, Digg, Reddit, etc are indeed reaching the scalability limits
of their databases, and are moving into the NOSQL world of Cassandra,
Hadoop, CouchDB... but you need to up at the level of shoveling around
petabytes of data
Ian Wood wrote:
On 20 May 2010, at 18:08, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Blowing off the other 83.9% of the mobile market (Apple says they
have only 16.1%) just to appease His Steveness would have been
suicidal, so if that was the intent we can all be glad the proposal
was rejected.
16% of the
Microsoft and Apple have been trying to get into your living room for
years, with a variety of television-oriented products.
Now Google thinks it can succeed where other computer companies have seen
only middling success. The company announced a new set-top box platform here
Thursday: Google TV
On May 20, 2010, at 2:35 PM, David Bovill wrote:
This really should work - what am I doing wrong?
on mouseUp
if the optionkey is Down then
put Hello World! into fld 1
else
put url http://www.google.com; into fld 1
end if
end mouseUp
I create a simple stack with one
David,
HTML is indeed rendered locally, which is why you can't use server
environment veriables in HTML. If you want to parse environment
variables, you need to use PHP, ASP, Perl or irev for instance.
Moreover, the environment variables that are listed by the globals
function are set
Yes - network permissions are on, and the Internet Library selected OSX
10.6.3
go to stack url http://www.revtalk.org/tests/Test/Test.rev;
and the revLet here:
http://www.revtalk.org/tests/Test/test.html
On 20 May 2010 22:14, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote:
On May 20, 2010, at 2:35
On 20 May 2010 22:14, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.comwrote:
HTML is indeed rendered locally, which is why you can't use server
environment veriables in HTML.
Hi I was sort of joking - but really you have HTTP headers like HTTP
referrer - so that the browser can tell where the
I don't think it used QT instruments. They had some funny system in which
they had a sound sample and then did some sort of pitch-bending to
generate all the tonal values for that particular instrument (which I
think was confined to flute, harsichord and boing).
Judy
On Thu, 20 May 2010,
Microsoft and Apple have been trying to get into your living
room for years, with a variety of television-oriented products.
Now Google thinks it can succeed where other computer
companies have seen only middling success. The company
announced a new set-top box platform here
Thursday:
Created a stack with the geometry manager so that the field resizes.
Uploaded it as a revLet and modified the HTML so that the width and height
are 80% instead of fixed numbers:
object classid=CLSID:B2EC94AF-4716-4300-824A-3314BF23664A width=80%
height=80%
param name=src value=Test.revlet/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/apples-app-store-said-to-ha
ve-99-4-percent-of-all-mobile-app-sa/
I've not managed to find estimates that are more recent, but
that's a scary ratio for anyone hoping to make money from
Android apps as an alternative to the iPhone/iPad. :-(
Still seems
Surfing, I found this just now:
http://www.un4seen.com/
It looks like it's exactly what we've been talking about. Is it real?
sqb
On 20 May 2010 11:19, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote:
Again I stress that if we try to put too much 'stuff' into this library
(read:
Ian,
Not surprisingly, I happen to agree with you. I would go so far as to say Rodeo
is what people like the original HyperCard team would have done today.
Thanks to the kick starters and a modest upsurge in tRev purchases, we have
made enough progress on Rodeo to get something in people's
Recently, Jerry Daniels wrote:
We now have a desktop app for the Mac that formats our new LIST code, and
sends it to the Rodeo server where it's quickly made into simple (for now) web
pages that look great on the iPad. The Mac editor also has a nice preview pane
so you can see the fruits of
Hey, Scott!
Happy to clarify. Gods willing, we will eventually have an app in the app store
that is essentially a browser shell that runs Rodeo web apps. We can then roll
anyone else's web pages into an app for them for submission to the app store.
Apps with open-ended, unpredictable content
Another interesting deployment option on the horizon:
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MarkDeLoura/20100519/5195/Google_IO_2010__Native_Client_Unity__Chrome_Web_Store.php
In a nutshell, this allows you to write C / C++ code to run in Chrome without
any plugin. For those of us who don't code from
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