Re: Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)

2010-06-26 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Fri Jun 25, 2010, Ben Rubinstein benr_mc at cogapp.com wrote: On 25/06/2010 17:36, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: And, if someone finds out that you can crash Rev with only four lines of script this should definitely arouse the attention of the responsible members of the Rev team, irrespective

Re: Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)

2010-06-25 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote: On 22/06/2010 16:01, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Apparently he had taken a look at the Revolution bug database with its enormous lags in fixing even fatal bugs, e.g. Report #8275 Groups: Bugs and features (last group broken)? of

Re: Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)

2010-06-25 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 25/06/2010 17:36, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: One thought that led me to put together a more comprehensive report is the assumption that at least some of the listed bugs are somehow related to each other. You can always create five separate reports, and then create a sixth one suggesting that there

Re: Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)

2010-06-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
Ben Rubinstein wrote: (I also know that some bugs have been fixed although the entry in Bugzilla hasn't been addressed. That may be because the bug was found independantly either by RR directly or because of a duplicate report, and it's just annoying that they've never noticed my report; or

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-24 Thread Peter Alcibiades
quality, anyway. There is no better alternative on this than doing what you do, right. And not doing the things you do not have the resources to do right. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Computer-news-from-Kassel-tp2264252p2266644.html Sent from

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-24 Thread David C.
Because you are not going to succeed as a company by introducing them at the expense of overall quality, anyway. Maybe someone forgot to explain that to a little outfit called Microsoft... They seem to have succeeded pretty well over the years, publishing products with thousands upon thousands

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Again, we are using the word bugs here on a one dimensional sense, as though all bugs were created equal. Is it reasonable to expect Adobe to fix a bug that deselects an object when I alt-shift-control-right-click on a menu? No, it's not. Is it reasonable to expect them to fix it when it

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-24 Thread Richmond
On 06/24/2010 03:31 PM, David C. wrote: Because you are not going to succeed as a company by introducing them at the expense of overall quality, anyway. Maybe someone forgot to explain that to a little outfit called Microsoft... They seem to have succeeded pretty well over the years,

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-24 Thread Richmond
On 06/24/2010 07:02 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Again, we are using the word bugs here on a one dimensional sense, as though all bugs were created equal. Is it reasonable to expect Adobe to fix a bug that deselects an object when I alt-shift-control-right-click on a menu? No, it's not. Is it

Uncomfirmed crash report (was Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel)

2010-06-24 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 22/06/2010 16:01, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: It is as yet unknown whether during his stay in Edinburgh the new professor had come into contact with Revolution or the Revolution team, but considering the topic of his work this seems to be highly probable. Apparently he had taken a look at the

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
of the clearest symptoms of the illness. The cure begins with acceptance and acknowledgment of the problem. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Computer-news-from-Kassel-tp2264252p2265064.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Jeff Massung
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: [...] they are paying for free upgrades. I'm sorry. I laughed out loud when I read that. Talk about the definition of an oxymoron. ;-) Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Heh heh. Listen to what I mean, not what I say. ;-) Bob On Jun 23, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Jeff Massung wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: [...] they are paying for free upgrades. I'm sorry. I laughed out loud when I read that. Talk about the

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Hugh Senior
On budget On time Bug free Pick any two. /H ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Mark Wieder
Hugh- Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:07:57 AM, you wrote: On budget On time Bug free Pick any two. I have enough trouble just picking *one*... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Hugh- Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:07:57 AM, you wrote: On budget On time Bug free Pick any two. I have enough trouble just picking *one*... I've mixed them and end up picking budget free... -- -Mark

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
I am very much aware of the fact that software is almost never bug-free. Apart from the first part - where I wanted to direct your attention to the computer pioneer Konrad Zuse - the rest of my post was written with some degree of tongue-in-cheek (both in its positive and negative

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-23 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Wilhelm Sanke sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.dewrote: I am very much aware of the fact that software is almost never bug-free. It is not that software is never bug-free... software is only ready when it is bug free, the problem is that software is never ready (or at

[OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-22 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
1. People around Kassel - and elsewhere - today celebrate the 100th birthday of Konrad Zuse, the inventor of the first programmable computer. Some extracts from Wikipedia: Konrad Zuse ( 22 June 1910) was a German engineer and computer pioneer. His greatest achievem was the world's first

Re: [OT] Computer news from Kassel

2010-06-22 Thread Peter Alcibiades
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