Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-05 Thread Marty Knapp
Thanks Richard and others who've posted on this. Very interesting articles. Now *all* I need to to do is wrap my brain around all this and decide how to proceed! Marty Marty Knapp wrote: I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between method. If your user then

AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, we have made some difference experiences and so I have to disagree to Richard and Francois. We are publishing software in a very small specific market, so no music, no games. In the first years our software was - in your intention - completely free of copy protection, later we implemented

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: In the first years our software was - in your intention - completely free of copy protection, later we implemented a copy protection on some programs, which were running off the CD. We made the experience, that nobody ever thanked us the ease of use and lack of licensing.

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Jeff Massung
Just tossing out another option for people: I've found with shareware I've written in the past that - in this day of internet access - my customers didn't mind at all having to be connected to the internet in order to gain access to their purchased software (read: ping a server w/ their license

AW: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 18:00 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine? Tiemo Hollmann wrote: In the first years our software was - in your intention

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread stephen barncard
...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. März 2010 18:00 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine? Tiemo Hollmann wrote: In the first years our software

Re: AW: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread François Chaplais
Le 4 mars 2010 à 18:37, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : I did not mentioned that we had also some steps in between. But many of the per-user licenses can be passed on. I don't know how Adobe or Microsoft prevent people of passing their user license to other people. Tiemo Adobe requires an

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Marty Knapp
I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between method. If your user then registered their key and someone else subsequently tried to register the same number you would have some recourse. I don't want to get bogged down in lots of administrative hassles, so I like this

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Mellicker
We use phone home authorization that uses machine-specific info. In case of a user with two computers, a hard drive crash, etc., we let people authorize additional computers with their email address and password so they always have access to what they've purchased. We police our database

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Andre Garzia
I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad licensing and then catch some smart hackers just due to statistic misfortune. I was going to call the system the Schrodingers Quantum Copy Protection Lock System patent it and win billions from holywood and RIAA! On Thu,

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Marty Knapp wrote: I like the idea of pre-generated keys. It seems like a good in-between method. If your user then registered their key and someone else subsequently tried to register the same number you would have some recourse. I don't want to get bogged down in lots of administrative

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad licensing and then catch some smart hackers just due to statistic misfortune. I was going to call the system the Schrodingers Quantum Copy Protection Lock System patent it and win billions from holywood

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Andre Garzia
funny tale below: Once I lost both the serial generator for one of my software and the backup for the given generator. People were buying the software but I could not generate the serial for them, then, I remembered that I had not removed some debug messages. So if invoked thru the terminal from

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Jeff Massung
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: [... snip ...] Then write the inverse of the generator to validate your codes, but break up the validation into multiple handlers each doing a small part of it, using obscure function names strewn all over your

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeff Massung wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.comwrote: [... snip ...] Then write the inverse of the generator to validate your codes, but break up the validation into multiple handlers each doing a small part of it, using obscure function

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Jeff Massung
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Jeff Massung wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.comwrote: [... snip ...] Then write the inverse of the generator to validate your codes, but break up the

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well I guess the idea that men are basically good at heart is DOA. :-) Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeff Massung wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Richard Gaskin ... I agree with everything else you wrote, and it seems very reflective of much of the Delphi Anti-Cracking FAQ, but on this I'm confused: It seems like we're saying the same thing about obfuscation. Or maybe I just wrote

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Brian Yennie
While this thread is alive, I've long been curious what the criticisms would be of the following scheme, for a product with low to medium security needs. This does assume that you require an internet connection for registration, but that seems to be a generally acceptable requirement these

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Martin Baxter
Richard Gaskin wrote: Andre Garzia wrote: I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad licensing and then catch some smart hackers just due to statistic misfortune. I was going to call the system the Schrodingers Quantum Copy Protection Lock System patent it and

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Andre Garzia wrote: I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad licensing and then catch some smart hackers just due to statistic misfortune. I was going to call the system the

Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Morrow
I think this might be very effective at locking people out... including the developer. The process of observing the password could change it. On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: I was going to make my software refuse to run 15% of the time due to bad licensing and then catch

AW: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine?

2010-03-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
2010 22:41 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: OT: locking software to one specific machine? While this thread is alive, I've long been curious what the criticisms would be of the following scheme, for a product with low to medium security needs. This does assume that you require