Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-06 Thread Jerry Daniels
I like your analysis of the situation here. Helped me clarify my own thinking. Thank you, Swami. I use Basecamp a lot, but I am tempted from time to time to write a Rev front end to it so I don't have to wait for the Basecamp engine to render my pages that could already be rendered in Rev B

How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson
DON'T! and take a lesson from Google . . . (Oh Dear) . . . Google are offering various standalones (I have Google Earth right here on my primary hard drive) - and, we ask ourselves, why do they not deliver the content available via Google Earth via a web-page instead: Well, probably because: 1.

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-04 Thread Sivakatirswami
Well, I'm way out of my depth here so for Dan's .06 cents I can perhaps put in .01 cents. mostly musings... I'll state my bottom line first and then launch into a long dissertation: One way Revolution can look at the browser is the same way I look at Fed Ex. The browser is simply a facile windo

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-04 Thread Stephen Barncard
Bravo, Andre! For the first time, I get it. Your dissertation explains it all. You have defined all the acronyms and made it clear what we should be focusing on... this one goes into the scrapbook. Although AJAX/DHTML is a very powerful thing, I think people on this list keep mixing things, l

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
Andre, I really appreciate you writing such a long and thoughtful reply to this. Especially since you are in Malta, and English is not your first language. You really are an amazing individual (and thankfully quite indomitable). The issues you bring up are very pertinent. However (and D

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Bernard, Although AJAX/DHTML is a very powerful thing, I think people on this list keep mixing things, liking comparing oranges to shoes. Revolution could not export Flash because Revolution feature set is something that is not available for flash, flash is a vector animation thing with s

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
>> Just a small correction (or perhaps I misread this). Flex produces Flash ouput (as swf files). I thought Laszlo did the same, but perhaps it has options for AJAX output too. << Hi Dave This year Laszlo decided to target AJAX/DHTML as a delivery mechanism. I've (occasionally) pointed out on t

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Dave Cragg
On 3 Nov 2006, at 22:06, Dan Shafer wrote: Flash is a terribly interesting DELIVERY platform for this class of apps but the development tools for creating such apps suck big time. There is clearly an opportunity here for a way to build an app in Rev and then compile it to Flash and deliver

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Dan Shafer
Since I've made as much noise about this over the years as anyone, I figured I'd better not bypass this chance to provide what I hope is clear input on the subject. For me -- and this may well be overly simplistic -- there are three kinds of applications: desktop apps, browser apps and client-ser

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Stephen Barncard
There's STILL a Hypercard list?? Wow. Lynn, You might want to look into Tyler Vano's very promising jsCard about which he wrote on the HyperCard list. Best, Mark -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-rev

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Derek Bump
Lynn, Well it seems to me that there is 1 other option that may be viable. A protocol loader much like html or ftp, or even a MIME type that is setup in the system. rev://www.somesite.com/stack.rev Much like iTunes, and very easy to implement, would consist of the very same Dreamcard mod

Re: How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Mark Schonewille
Lynn, You might want to look into Tyler Vano's very promising jsCard about which he wrote on the HyperCard list. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store so

How Else to Interact with Browser (was Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin)

2006-11-03 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Hi all, My bringing this up isnt implying that we are shipping anything tommorrow but, Im interested in your feedback regarding browser interaction with Revolution. WHAT WE HAVE. Here is a short list of what we can do/is done and probably could be improved (if Im missing something, feel free to