One big gap in Rev as a general purpose environment seems to be getting data
out in a structured form. Or maybe this is just personal ignorance in how
to do it? If so, corrections would be welcome.
You have lets say a tab separated file with data in it. This seems to be
the approved way of
On 5/31/08 12:31 AM, Peter Alcibiades [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You have lets say a tab separated file with data in it. This seems to be
the approved way of storing a few thousand or tens of thousands of records
of data, and indeed it does work fine for storage. Now you want to produce
Hi All!
I've been tracking this conversation, and I can say that I beat the drum for
Rev quite often in K12 education. I like the idea of custom objects just for
teachers, that they could snap into their projects, however, we practically
have those items now in the current version of Rev :-)
Is it true that most programmers say that hypercard isn't
programming? Do they say that about RR? I'm running into that issue
a little bit.
Some of my students (8th grade and up) think that RR is not a real
programming language. Why? It's too easy! They have the notion --
shared by
marty wrote:
Is it true that most programmers say that hypercard isn't
programming? Do they say that about RR? I'm running into that issue
a little bit.
Some of my students (8th grade and up) think that RR is not a real
programming language. Why? It's too easy! They have the notion
You are going to find all sorts of prejudices in the programming
world about ease of use. Easier it is to use, the less they want
to give it credit.
Now you do have to see one thing from their viewpoint. You spend
years learning how to use c++, you are finally at a point where you
can do a
That's a *great* idea, Richard.
On May 29, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
But it would be helpful if some of the introductory materials in the
docs discussed Rev as a second language for JavaScripters as it does
for HC and VB.
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HyperCard also suffered from this mentality in both higher education and
corporate environments (I can speak to this first hand). Part of HC's
problem was that it was slower than compiled applications doing the same
things. Part of the problem was that color was being widely accepted and
Mikey,
And this all over again as Mashups infiltrate enterprise and IT have
to deal with end users building their own UI etc.
Thanks for the post
Tom
On May 29, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Mikey wrote:
So the short version of that story is You're right. The longer
version,
though, is a tale of
Thats why it would be nice to have Revolution name mentioned regularly
in the big IT magazines. Once it gets there the snowball effect will
start working as local national magazines tend to replicate news printed
in the greater ones. These news in turn get replicated by IT columns
in local
The catch is:
If anyone uses Google to find answers, or help, or general info...
this won't get much if all you write is RevCode, so use more than one term,
such as Revolution or Transcript, etc.
Of course, RunRev is unique, but I don't see many people using this beyond
the Rev team.
Lynn
RevCode certainly is a nice succinct and unique word. Revolution is a
useless word and Transcript is also and scripting all those others aren't
unique. It really is a great idea to name transcript or hypertalk or
revolution or whatever the stuff we have been coding in when using RunRev
RevCode.
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Thats why it would be nice to have Revolution name mentioned regularly
in the big IT magazines. Once it gets
Personally, I think it overstates the case, it is too long, and is pompous.
If you don't use it all the time then it isn't so bad - RevCode, for
example, is just RevCode, even though it's short for something else. If you
use it sparingly then it isn't a problem.
The biggest problem with using Revolution to mean RevCode is that
Revolution means something else. So it is confusing especially for web
searches.
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Too easy? Too difficult?
This is one of those things that can go on and on.
Having ploughed through all those disgusting
command-line languages of the 70s and 80s I really
don't care if people want to be all funny about
Runtime Revolution; let them be; all I do know is:
I can have a child of 8
aspect of
computing... Programming executable logic.
R.
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From: Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 5/29/2008 1:45 PM
Subject: Is RR too easy? Or too hard? (was) Is RunRev marketed to developers
mainly?
Too easy? Too
Here, here!
How do you think we can do to help this happen?
Judy
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:34 AM, marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other side of the aisle, I'd like to begin urging other teachers to
begin making their own software to use with their classes. But they think
it's too
I'd forgotten about Lynn's blogging suggestion, which is odd given
that I've been tinkering with the idea of a Rev in Education blog
@;-)
Judy
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lynn mentioned blogging as a way of getting the word out, but we still get
back to
And, of course, the problem here is one of branding, or rather,
changing the branding rather frequently. Is it Revolution?
Transcript? Media/Dreamcard/Studio/Enterprise/whatever-it-is-this-week?
(though I must say I was very impressed with the concern for branding
expressed at the conference, as
Richmond, I quite often take issue with your posts to this list, but
this time, I agree with every word :-)
I too suffer from people describing Revolution as a toy and ignoring
the fact that I produce software that is incredibly stable and largely
bug-free in about a tenth of the time they do.
On 5/29/08 7:34 PM, marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Marty,
Is it true that most programmers say that hypercard isn't
programming? Do they say that about RR? I'm running into that issue
a little bit.
Some of my students (8th grade and up) think that RR is not a real
programming
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